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Post by sean™ on May 27, 2010 9:53:06 GMT -5
Not the first, second, or forth angle, but the THIRD angle they show (the second one in the replay) looks like he kicked under the armpit, and his foot connected with Brad's face.
Do I agree that it wasn't a straight kick to the face? Yes. Do I also think it was initially a kick to the chest? Yes.
However, it was prety apparent that Brad was ktfo.
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Post by sean™ on May 27, 2010 9:54:36 GMT -5
I don't have any anger or hatred towards Tito for pulling out of the fight. It's not like he just whimped out. If he legit needs surgery, than I agree with him. I'd rather see 100% Chuck and Tito instead of half assed.
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Post by sean™ on May 27, 2010 10:03:39 GMT -5
On another note from last night, Kris looked great in the first round, looked pretty gassed in the second, but anyone who says anything about his performance in the third. He more then made up for that second round. It also helped that Kyle apparently has no idea what he is doing on his back.
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Post by ville on May 27, 2010 10:09:43 GMT -5
I don't have any anger or hatred towards Tito for pulling out of the fight. It's not like he just whimped out. If he legit needs surgery, than I agree with him. I'd rather see 100% Chuck and Tito instead of half assed. Why? We would just get the same thing. Tito says he is a 100% and then Liddel wins then Tito say oh my neck!
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Post by The Champ is Here! on May 27, 2010 10:14:58 GMT -5
Not the first, second, or forth angle, but the THIRD angle they show (the second one in the replay) looks like he kicked under the armpit, and his foot connected with Brad's face. Do I agree that it wasn't a straight kick to the face? Yes. Do I also think it was initially a kick to the chest? Yes. However, it was prety apparent that Brad was ktfo. I disagree, every angle I saw was a kick to the head, and even the red team (outside of the coaches) saw it as a head kick I mean, doesn't matter what I say, I'm not the ref. I think Herb did the right thing though, Tavares could not have continued fighting, and that kick, which was at the least borderline illegal, ended it..he should have been dq'd
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Post by sean™ on May 27, 2010 11:09:05 GMT -5
To each their own. I'm not complaining about the decision, because regardless how it got there, there was contact with the head while he was on the ground. It should have been a DQ, as it was. I just think both times I saw that particular angle last night, that it went inbetween Brad's left arm and chest, into his armpit area, and connected with his jaw.
Kudos to Seth, who not only takes responsibility for the kick in his blog, but also continues to apologize to Brad. Class figher in my mind.
As far as Tito backing out, according once again to Seth's blog, apparently Tito had been slowing down physically during training to the point where it was obvious he was hurt. Now I wasn't there, so I can't speak from experience, but it seems like Tito is being legit. I honestly don't have any reason to believe that Tito wouldn't take the fight if he physically could, and when Tito is 100% again, Chuck will get his chance.
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Post by Patrick Bateman (original) on May 27, 2010 11:26:23 GMT -5
I don't blame Tito for blowing up. That was a split second kick (that connected with his face). And I'm sure Tito would have been cool with it if that doctor wouldn't have opened his mouth.
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Post by James Hetfield on May 27, 2010 11:53:37 GMT -5
What do you mean "If that doctor didn't open his mouth"?
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Post by James Hetfield on May 27, 2010 11:57:05 GMT -5
BTW, I'm sick of all Tito's bullsh*t. "I have been hurt like this for 5 years". I thought he claimed to be 100% for the 2nd fight with Forrest? Hah.
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Post by Patrick Bateman (original) on May 27, 2010 12:47:33 GMT -5
What do you mean "If that doctor didn't open his mouth"? Their was a doctor there that told him the kick was under arm and hit his chest. The doctor had no position to open his mouth by assuming what happened. The dr. should have been an unbiased spectator that kept his opinion to himself. Because people take an officials word as fact. When that dr. was just assuming. You didn't hear Herb Dean putting his two cents in.
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Post by sean™ on May 27, 2010 12:48:20 GMT -5
What do you mean "If that doctor didn't open his mouth"? One of the doctors went over and told Tito that he was right in front of both fighters when the kick happened, and that it originally hit Brad's chest. However, it's clear that regardless if the kick hit his chest or not, Seth's foot still knocked Brad the out.
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Post by sean™ on May 27, 2010 12:49:58 GMT -5
Honestly, whoever the training guy is from Team Punishment that started talking **** and got into it with Rich is more to blame for last night then Tito. From there, Rich started talking back, which lead to everyone else talking and yelling.
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Post by Hawks_NFC West Champions on May 28, 2010 23:59:04 GMT -5
BTW, I'm sick of all Tito's bullsh*t. "I have been hurt like this for 5 years". I thought he claimed to be 100% for the 2nd fight with Forrest? Hah. Haha, is he supposed to say, "Honestly, going into this fight, I slipped a disk and cracked my skull and I hope Forrest doesn't attack those spots."
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Post by James Hetfield on Jun 2, 2010 21:48:51 GMT -5
The sheer irony of Tito telling Yager "Don't quit."
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Post by moocow on Jun 3, 2010 0:11:19 GMT -5
I was surprised that Yager just gave up in the final round like that.
Also the guy yelling "HEEEEEEEEY" every time a punch was thrown needs to get his voice box ripped out.
And I'm glad I don't have to hear Tito say "Up-up-up-up-up-up-up-up-up" anymore.
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Post by PrideFcF on Jun 3, 2010 0:24:10 GMT -5
BTW, I'm sick of all Tito's bullsh*t. "I have been hurt like this for 5 years". I thought he claimed to be 100% for the 2nd fight with Forrest? Hah. Haha, is he supposed to say, "Honestly, going into this fight, I slipped a disk and cracked my skull and I hope Forrest doesn't attack those spots." No, but he should consider it. The whole "I'm feeling Grrrrrrrr-REAT!" crap going into a fight, only to say "Yeah, about that, I was injured the entire time." when he loses, is pretty damn old. Especially when he says it in a way that hints he feels the only reason he lost, was due to these injuries he never mentioned. I'm not calling him a liar, as part of me really does think he's damaged beyond repair as far as his health as a contender goes. I also know he's just doing whatever he can to stay marketable. I just think his routine is getting old. And that was a big shocker with Yager. He got popped good quite a few times, which seemed to suck his heart out. That guy is a highlight reel KO victim waiting to happen though, with all the reckless "flashy" jumping knees/kicks he likes to throw.
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Post by James Hetfield on Jun 3, 2010 3:46:24 GMT -5
I probably wouldn't have ANY problems with Yager IF and ONLY IF he didn't do those stupid jumping, poorly executed kicks to his opponents. Sh*t like that won't work in a fight against top guys, dude. So, just cut it out. We realize you're a tall dude, so use your reach EFFECTIVELY.
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Post by kurtangleisgod on Jun 3, 2010 4:55:24 GMT -5
Haha, is he supposed to say, "Honestly, going into this fight, I slipped a disk and cracked my skull and I hope Forrest doesn't attack those spots." No, but he should consider it. The whole "I'm feeling Grrrrrrrr-REAT!" crap going into a fight, only to say "Yeah, about that, I was injured the entire time." when he loses, is pretty damn old. Especially when he says it in a way that hints he feels the only reason he lost, was due to these injuries he never mentioned. I'm not calling him a liar, as part of me really does think he's damaged beyond repair as far as his health as a contender goes. I also know he's just doing whatever he can to stay marketable. I just think his routine is getting old. And that was a big shocker with Yager. He got popped good quite a few times, which seemed to suck his heart out. That guy is a highlight reel KO victim waiting to happen though, with all the reckless "flashy" jumping knees/kicks he likes to throw. Tonights show had Tito say he felt like that AFTER the Forrest fight, so he isn't saying he lost to Forrest because of this, he's saying it was caused by that fight
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Post by James Hetfield on Jun 3, 2010 5:26:33 GMT -5
Nope. RIGHT AFTER the Forrest fight, Tito said he fought injured... AFTER all the promos said "I'm 100%, wait until Forrest sees this".
Same routine it has been for years.
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Post by sean™ on Jun 3, 2010 8:59:51 GMT -5
I'm excited for Josh vs Kris 2, as the first fight would have been great if Kris didn't get gassed so quickly. I think given the right cardio, and his performance in the last two fights, it should be more even.
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