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Post by TeamExtreme718x on Jun 17, 2008 0:40:15 GMT -5
Your out of your mind..
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Post by carly1988 on Jun 17, 2008 0:45:39 GMT -5
and then in the 90s during the Attitude Era he was nowhere around. Funny how when HBK has the belt and is the "top dog" on the company the ratings/draws sucked Ummm, Shawn Michaels kickstarted the Attitude era... I take it you're not familiar with WM14 and the HBK/Austin/Tyson storyline? And so maybe the company didn't get the big ratings when he had the title. What does that prove? He can't draw? The guy isn't a legend in the business by accident. LOL HBK did not kick start the attitude era. The attitude era can be classified as a starting period two different ways. SCSA's Austin 3:16 promo @ King of the Ring, OR, Wrestlemania 14 and To me, losing in a match before the Era starts and then never wrestling again until AFTER the era is over, doesnt classify as being part of the era. Shawn cannot be classified with the Attitude era. The "prime" of HBK was during the New Generation era...The same era that brought us Doink, TL Hoper, Bastion Booger and the ever so popular Goon
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Post by Heresy on Jun 17, 2008 1:11:41 GMT -5
Ummm, Shawn Michaels kickstarted the Attitude era... I take it you're not familiar with WM14 and the HBK/Austin/Tyson storyline? And so maybe the company didn't get the big ratings when he had the title. What does that prove? He can't draw? The guy isn't a legend in the business by accident. LOL HBK did not kick start the attitude era. The attitude era can be classified as a starting period two different ways. SCSA's Austin 3:16 promo @ King of the Ring, OR, Wrestlemania 14 and To me, losing in a match before the Era starts and then never wrestling again until AFTER the era is over, doesnt classify as being part of the era. Shawn cannot be classified with the Attitude era. The "prime" of HBK was during the New Generation era...The same era that brought us Doink, TL Hoper, Bastion Booger and the ever so popular Goon You can believe there was a certain show or segment where the words "Attitude Era Begins Now" flashed on your tv screen. Realistically it was more of a progression... and it started around the time the original DX formed. I don't see what difference it makes anyway... Michaels wasn't majorly involved in the attitude era therefore he can't draw and isn't one of pro wrestling's greatest entertainers? That's something to laugh about, tbh.
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Post by carly1988 on Jun 17, 2008 3:04:39 GMT -5
LOL HBK did not kick start the attitude era. The attitude era can be classified as a starting period two different ways. SCSA's Austin 3:16 promo @ King of the Ring, OR, Wrestlemania 14 and To me, losing in a match before the Era starts and then never wrestling again until AFTER the era is over, doesnt classify as being part of the era. Shawn cannot be classified with the Attitude era. The "prime" of HBK was during the New Generation era...The same era that brought us Doink, TL Hoper, Bastion Booger and the ever so popular Goon You can believe there was a certain show or segment where the words "Attitude Era Begins Now" flashed on your tv screen. Realistically it was more of a progression... and it started around the time the original DX formed. I don't see what difference it makes anyway... Michaels wasn't majorly involved in the attitude era therefore he can't draw and isn't one of pro wrestling's greatest entertainers? That's something to laugh about, tbh. The original DX formed in Sept 97. The main draw at that time was Steve Austins feud with Hart Foundation. Steve Austin and Bret Hart should be the ones credited with the initial "start" of the attitude era. (Note their feud kicked off at Survivor Series '96). In 1997 Michaels was inactive for much of the year or in a feud that played second fiddle to Austin/Hart. Im not sayin the guy isnt a HOFer or a great wrestler, all im sayin is people on this site need to get off his nuts because there were better before and during his time.
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Post by karobrokaro on Jun 17, 2008 6:44:51 GMT -5
Jericho, Punk, Regal, MVP, The Undertaker, Edge Edge/Cena TLC Edge/Taker TLC/WM 24 Taker/Batista WM 23 Punk/Joe 2 MVP/Benoit 2/3 falls Angle/Taker NWO just to name a few. Just name me 5 better wrestlers than HBK from the current roster and 1 ***** star match they had and I'll promise I'll delete my account if somebody agrees with you.
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Post by sparks on Jun 17, 2008 7:04:45 GMT -5
You're a complete intellectually- disabled person.
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Post by BIGticket5 on Jun 17, 2008 9:16:47 GMT -5
In my view, HBK can still go in the ring. It's just he seems so... fragile so to say when he's in the ring. Like he's always "hurting" somewhere. cough*jeff*cough
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Post by dalethegreat on Jun 17, 2008 9:56:21 GMT -5
i don't like hbk very much but omg you're an idiot
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Post by Legends Collector on Jun 17, 2008 10:23:23 GMT -5
i don't like hbk very much but omg you're an idiot
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Post by Dwight on Jun 17, 2008 10:49:30 GMT -5
No. If anything HBK should wrestle more.
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Post by "Jefe" on Jun 17, 2008 11:48:56 GMT -5
Soon
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Post by jorge4903 on Jun 17, 2008 12:31:46 GMT -5
I stopped reading after this douchebag said HBK can't draw.
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Post by callumHart on Jun 17, 2008 13:22:46 GMT -5
Well...Hair seems to be a major thing for some losers... so, Steve austin should have retired years ago? Hulk hogan? err...No. I wonder whos next for the 'should retire' complaints, Triple H?, he's 38 OMG well old and Fat, get outta the WWE!
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Post by iyfwkidzc on Jun 17, 2008 13:30:40 GMT -5
The worst thing is, when someone accuses him of trolling, etc., he says we're just doing this to bump our post count.
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Post by karobrokaro on Jun 17, 2008 16:49:05 GMT -5
No, it's more of a hindrance for himself. During several matches his opponents have actually ripped his hair extensions out. By allowing something like that to happen, it's definitely not a positive action/trait for the Heart breaking 1. To be perfectly honest, i'd love for Triple Suck to retire. When he and cena were out of the main picture, raw was actually really interesting and fresh this year. Well...Hair seems to be a major thing for some losers... so, Steve austin should have retired years ago? Hulk hogan? err...No. I wonder whos next for the 'should retire' complaints, Triple H?, he's 38 OMG well old and Fat, get outta the WWE!
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Post by Oklahomie on Jun 17, 2008 16:51:23 GMT -5
Go Away,Edgie Guerrero,No-One Likes You.
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Post by WalterF on Jun 17, 2008 17:12:03 GMT -5
You can believe there was a certain show or segment where the words "Attitude Era Begins Now" flashed on your tv screen. Realistically it was more of a progression... and it started around the time the original DX formed. I don't see what difference it makes anyway... Michaels wasn't majorly involved in the attitude era therefore he can't draw and isn't one of pro wrestling's greatest entertainers? That's something to laugh about, tbh. The original DX formed in Sept 97. The main draw at that time was Steve Austins feud with Hart Foundation. Steve Austin and Bret Hart should be the ones credited with the initial "start" of the attitude era. (Note their feud kicked off at Survivor Series '96). In 1997 Michaels was inactive for much of the year or in a feud that played second fiddle to Austin/Hart. Im not sayin the guy isnt a HOFer or a great wrestler, all im sayin is people on this site need to get off his nuts because there were better before and during his time. ACTUALLY Shawn Michaels is LAREGELY responsible for starting the attitude era. Shawn Michaels did a segment where he stuffed his pants with gauze and JR got offended so Vince decided to fine HBK 10, 000. When HBK met up with Vince to discuss it, HBK told Vince that they had to get edgier and that they were passe and too old-school and kiddy. After the convo, Vince decided to take back the fine and held a backstage meeting with the entire roster and staff (St. Louis, Missouri) and told them that he wanted to take the product in an edgier direction ... thus the "Attitude" era. Yeah bitches.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2008 17:12:08 GMT -5
While everything you say on this forum is aimed to piss people of and get "heat" I do agree with you that Michaels should hang them up soon. Dont get me wrong, this feud with Jericho and his fued with Flair have been gold, but outside that there is no real reason for him to keep going. His knees are shot, and he just isnt what he used to be. I say have him and Jericho fued throughout the rest of the year, then stick him in a fued with the Undertaker going into Mania. Streak vs Career, with Undertaker prevailing. Because in reality if he stays he will finish this feud, have several "one night only" DX reunions, then get stuck in pointless fueds. Im no fan of the guy, but he has had a great career. No point in overstaying your welcome.
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Post by thephenominalone on Jun 17, 2008 17:51:28 GMT -5
This post demonstrates your complete lack of knowledge about the wrestling business and your overall personal stupidity.
You've just made up a bunch of things and skewed them to prove your flawed point. There is no logic to this argument.
Go back and look at the top 10 matches that either PWI or Meltzer or any other informed Wrestling critic has compiled in the last 5 years and you will see it littered with HBK matches.
HBK is simply one of the most legendary in-ring performers of our generation and has only gotten BETTER with age.
And what does personal appearance have to do with it? "He looks like an average joe".. uhhh okay.. he's 220lbs of pure muscle, not an ounce of body fat. HBK has never been a huge guy, he has dropped weight and thats mostly b/c of his past knee problems. Who the hell cares if he's balding.. he obviously doesnt b/c i'm pretty sure he could afford to have follicule treatments to fix it if he did.
Gas Tank? He wrestles 20-30 min matches every PPV... he has never looked winded its called working with the psychology of the match.
The vision thing is a story line you idiot.
He's never going to be the level of Rock, Austin, Hogan? Yes thats b/c he's already higher than Rock and Austin. While there is no doubt Rock and Austin are the forefathers of wrestlings resurgence during the Attitude era and they redefined the sport.. lets not forget that during those dark times it was HBK who carried the company.
I could just pick apart every single thing you have said. Especially the part about not being a top worker or draw. HBK is still one of the biggest draws in the industry and without even a second thought he is the best worker on the Raw roster.
In conclusion.. You are an absolute idiot who knows nothing about wrestling and you have simply made a post to act infromed and impress your e-friends.
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Post by karobrokaro on Jun 17, 2008 18:38:04 GMT -5
If you seriously believe this, i feel sorry for your mother. He's never going to be the level of Rock, Austin, Hogan? Yes thats b/c he's already higher than Rock and Austin.
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