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Post by Sandy on Jun 25, 2008 0:58:44 GMT -5
As everyone knows by now Anderson Silva is moving to LHW. Whether it is for one fight or to setup a super fight between Silva and Liddell has been undetermined.
But does anyone else feel a little worried about this fight with James Irvin? I mean it is a somewhat legitimate opponent but I think everyone is expecting Silva to completely destroy Irvin. But my question is what if he loses? I think it will truly hurt his legacy as possibly being the best fighter in the world right now.
I just think it is a horrible fight to give him with to much at stake...
If he loses then it automatically elevates Irvin into the top tier of LHW's.
I don't know. Maybe I am thinking about this a little to much. But hopefully Silva pulls out the win.
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Post by Kliquid on Jun 25, 2008 10:19:38 GMT -5
This is exactly my opinion. I don't like it. If you're going to move Silva up in weight, then have him fight a legitimate top opponent. If he loses, he won't look AWFUL, and if he wins, you can set up another fight against another top LHW.
The best thing that comes out of this fight for Anderson Silva is that people are impressed that he can go up in weight class, but the question will remain, "Can he beat top LHW competition?"
If he loses, yeah, his legacy is a bit tarnished.
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Post by ajstyles888 on Jun 25, 2008 10:19:58 GMT -5
I agree, if Silva loses this fight, it's gonna make him look bad.
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Post by PdW2kX on Jun 25, 2008 12:45:20 GMT -5
Well, I see it this way: did GSP losing to Serra tarnish his legacy?
I really don't think it did, because GSP rebounded and is now back on top. With a top-tier performer like Silva, it's more about coming back from a loss than just plain losing.
If Silva loses, it may hurt his image, but his legacy will only be tarnished if he is unable to come back from this loss.
That's my stance on things, anyway.
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Post by Kliquid on Jun 25, 2008 14:06:30 GMT -5
Well, I see it this way: did GSP losing to Serra tarnish his legacy? I really don't think it did, because GSP rebounded and is now back on top. With a top-tier performer like Silva, it's more about coming back from a loss than just plain losing. If Silva loses, it may hurt his image, but his legacy will only be tarnished if he is unable to come back from this loss. That's my stance on things, anyway. GSP losing to Serra was, by all accounts, a fluke. We're talking about Anderson Silva trying to be "something special" (not saying that he's not already) and move up in weight. If he loses convincingly to a non-elite LHW, then yeah, I think it will tarnish his 'legacy'. |
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Post by Codesters on Jun 25, 2008 15:07:57 GMT -5
I think silva should go for it. If he has the confidence to think he go up to LHW and take on Irvin then let him. Yeah if he loses his legcy will be damaged. BUT if he wins Anderson Silva may be considered the greatest mixed martial artist of all time.
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Post by Kliquid on Jun 25, 2008 19:35:41 GMT -5
I think silva should go for it. If he has the confidence to think he go up to LHW and take on Irvin then let him. Yeah if he loses his legcy will be damaged. BUT if he wins Anderson Silva may be considered the greatest mixed martial artist of all time. If he beats James Irvin, how will it even help him? It will just setup another fight. No one will be like "oh my god, he beat James Irvin!" It's just not a smart fight to make, in my opinion. |
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Post by deskjet on Jun 25, 2008 19:59:35 GMT -5
ummm, theres worse things in life to worry about
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Post by Kliquid on Jun 25, 2008 20:04:46 GMT -5
ummm, theres worse things in life to worry about Yeah, like the newest line of figures! |
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Post by Codesters on Jun 25, 2008 20:44:03 GMT -5
I think silva should go for it. If he has the confidence to think he go up to LHW and take on Irvin then let him. Yeah if he loses his legcy will be damaged. BUT if he wins Anderson Silva may be considered the greatest mixed martial artist of all time. If he beats James Irvin, how will it even help him? It will just setup another fight. No one will be like "oh my god, he beat James Irvin!" It's just not a smart fight to make, in my opinion. Well it'd just show that he can scrap even a weight class above his own. If a fighter goes down a weight they most likely do better but when they go up a weight its a whole other challenge. |
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Post by Codesters on Jun 25, 2008 20:44:20 GMT -5
ummm, theres worse things in life to worry about Yeah, like the newest line of figures! hahaha. nice. |
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Post by Sandy on Jun 25, 2008 20:47:29 GMT -5
ummm, theres worse things in life to worry about nice contribution to the thread..  It would have made a lot more sense to setup a super fight with GSP or Liddell. But I understand Dana was pushing for a big name just to compete with the Affliction show. I can't wait for the fight, don't get me wrong. But I just don't think it was very smart of Dana to make this fight. |
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Post by Kliquid on Jun 25, 2008 21:51:33 GMT -5
Well it'd just show that he can scrap even a weight class above his own. If a fighter goes down a weight they most likely do better but when they go up a weight its a whole other challenge. Absolutely. I'd respect him... But the question would still be if he can fight TOP competition. Beating James Irvin isn't going to suddenly make him the best fighter in the world. |
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Post by Codesters on Jun 25, 2008 22:23:32 GMT -5
Well it'd just show that he can scrap even a weight class above his own. If a fighter goes down a weight they most likely do better but when they go up a weight its a whole other challenge. Absolutely. I'd respect him... But the question would still be if he can fight TOP competition. Beating James Irvin isn't going to suddenly make him the best fighter in the world. no.....but it helps  |
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Post by PdW2kX on Jun 25, 2008 22:55:44 GMT -5
IMO, the more and more I think about this fight the more and more it sounds like Serra/GSP.
Not a lot of people expect Irvin to win, and many recognize that he is not world-class competition. Exact same thing with Serra before Serra/GSP I. Many people thought Serra was being fed to the wolves, many think that Dana is feeding Irvin to Silva.
My point is: if GSP can rebound from the Serra loss, Silva can rebound from this loss if he loses.
Fluke or no, GSP got KTFO from a guy that people had 11-1 odds that GSP would hand him his ass. Anything is possible in MMA. GSP rebounded from that fight by kicking ass, upping his game, and making Serra his personal play-thing in the rematch.
If Silva loses, he's still one of the most dominant middleweights of all time. A loss to Irvin at LHW won't change that fact at all.
Even if Silva loses this fight, it's not like it'll be the end of his career. When all is said and done, this fight may be just a blip on the radar even if Silva wins. Silva's legacy is ongoing. He's carving out his legacy right now. Who's to say if this fight will be a milestone or just a little footnote?
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Post by trivium666 on Jun 26, 2008 0:02:24 GMT -5
I dont think Irvin has a chance. Silva is a tough mf'er and I think he will beat the holy hell out of Irvin. But if somehow Irvin does win, I dont think it will affect him too much as long as he wins his next fight.
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