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Post by lariato on Jun 27, 2008 17:59:19 GMT -5
If Mysterio could be champion, Tazz could. I hate how Vince never pushed any WCW/ECW guy. Are you ing serious?
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Post by ryanissexy on Jun 27, 2008 18:04:02 GMT -5
If you look in the "related videos" section you will also see Scott Steiners debut. He too got a very large reaction.
Based on your logic, someone who gets a big pop in their debut should be World champion, so I think that would punish us all by having Steiner as champion.
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Post by Johnny Wrestling on Jun 27, 2008 18:16:39 GMT -5
If Mysterio could be champion, Tazz could. I hate how Vince never pushed any WCW/ECW guy. Oh yeah, they never pushed any ECW/WCW guy, other than Chris Benoit, Rey Mysterio, Eddie Guerrero, Steve Austin, Booker .T., Goldberg, Rob Van Dam, Triple .H., Ric Flair, Diesel and Chris Jericho. Rey Mysterio was just pushed because of Eddie. Chris Benoit was pushed until 2004. After that, he returned to be a midcard. Steve Austin wasn't someone everyone remember for being on ECW/WCW. Goldberg was jobbed by Triple H. Rob Van Dam was pushed until 2006 and then Vince didn't wanted to push him (yeah, his fault). How was Ric Flair pushed? Triple H... another guy who nobody remembered from his work in WCW. Booker T got pushed until 2006. He was ok until HHH returned and do to him what he did. Chris Jericho: They puted the title on him what... once? Is that really a push? He's been lost in the mid-card since. Diesel and Eddie... well, they were pushed.
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Post by brm on Jun 27, 2008 18:23:26 GMT -5
If Mysterio could be champion, Tazz could. I hate how Vince never pushed any WCW/ECW guy. You are aware that Rey wreslted in WCW and ECW right?
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Post by Johnny Wrestling on Jun 27, 2008 18:32:45 GMT -5
If Mysterio could be champion, Tazz could. I hate how Vince never pushed any WCW/ECW guy. You are aware that Rey wreslted in WCW and ECW right? You are aware that Rey gor pushed because of Eddie right?
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Post by Stinger TNA on Jun 27, 2008 19:49:54 GMT -5
If Mysterio could be champion, Tazz could. I hate how Vince never pushed any WCW/ECW guy.....Exactly
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Post by Stinger TNA on Jun 27, 2008 19:50:41 GMT -5
Oh yeah, they never pushed any ECW/WCW guy, other than Chris Benoit, Rey Mysterio, Eddie Guerrero, Steve Austin, Booker .T., Goldberg, Rob Van Dam, Triple .H., Ric Flair, Diesel and Chris Jericho. Rey Mysterio was just pushed because of Eddie. Chris Benoit was pushed until 2004. After that, he returned to be a midcard. Steve Austin wasn't someone everyone remember for being on ECW/WCW. Goldberg was jobbed by Triple H. Rob Van Dam was pushed until 2006 and then Vince didn't wanted to push him (yeah, his fault). How was Ric Flair pushed?Triple H... another guy who nobody remembered from his work in WCW. Booker T got pushed until 2006. He was ok until HHH returned and do to him what he did. Chris Jericho: They puted the title on him what... once? Is that really a push? He's been lost in the mid-card since. Diesel and Eddie... well, they were pushed. Please, PLEASE tell us your doing this as a joke.
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Post by Adam on Jun 27, 2008 19:50:53 GMT -5
Definitely. That still irritates me that they dropped the ball big time on Taz. He had so much potential.
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Post by scoobypat on Jun 27, 2008 21:25:27 GMT -5
Tazz stopped wrestling because he had a neck injury, he had surgery and such but it still would be life threatening for him to get back in the ring. His injury was pretty severe I believe because he doesn't even take bumps anymore, if you notice ONS 06 he doesn't even get in the ring he just chokes Angle out and that's it. I actually think it was this injury that led Tazz to becoming a lower carder in the WWF not so much the creative staff, in his later years he always seemed so much more regid and lathargic in the ring. Tazz used to be a pretty flexible guy with huge wrestling background, but as time went on in the WWF he developed more into a brawler and it was rare to see him show flashes of his previous brilliance. Again I believe this was injury related not creative decision, it just seemed as if his style was changed for safety. A great wrestler, he just appeared in WWF too late to gain what he could have earlier.
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Post by Johnny Wrestling on Jun 27, 2008 21:47:57 GMT -5
Rey Mysterio was just pushed because of Eddie. Chris Benoit was pushed until 2004. After that, he returned to be a midcard. Steve Austin wasn't someone everyone remember for being on ECW/WCW. Goldberg was jobbed by Triple H. Rob Van Dam was pushed until 2006 and then Vince didn't wanted to push him (yeah, his fault). How was Ric Flair pushed?Triple H... another guy who nobody remembered from his work in WCW. Booker T got pushed until 2006. He was ok until HHH returned and do to him what he did. Chris Jericho: They puted the title on him what... once? Is that really a push? He's been lost in the mid-card since. Diesel and Eddie... well, they were pushed. Please, PLEASE tell us your doing this as a joke. No, I'm not. What other things did Flair got in the WWE apart from winning the Royal Rumble and WWF title twice in 1992?
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Post by thejoker on Jun 27, 2008 21:51:25 GMT -5
taz was in his hometown. so of course people are going to cheer up. Plus it was his debut.
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Post by Stinger TNA on Jun 27, 2008 23:32:35 GMT -5
Please, PLEASE tell us your doing this as a joke. No, I'm not. What other things did Flair got in the WWE apart from winning the Royal Rumble and WWF title twice in 1992? How about the biggest ing praise in the WWE, and one of the main spotlights of WM24. Not to mention the countless promotion they have brought him up with. And you fail to see that in the same post, you basically proved yourself wrong. You said "Vince never pushed a WCW/ECW" then you went on to say "Well he pushed so and so until a certain year." Point is he still pushed him. Also, Chris Jericho main evented a Wrestlemania event, so yes, that is a push.
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Jun 27, 2008 23:37:15 GMT -5
Now now, Vince thought he was pushing him, but that was because he was under the impression that all ECW alumni would actually fit well into the Hardcore division.
Which is how Rob Van Dam became the longest-reigning Hardcore Champ of all time.
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Post by djknightrida on Jun 28, 2008 9:40:50 GMT -5
completly agree. Tazz's neck casued his career to end though with all those suplexes. But he could have atleast held a belt a little more prestigious than the hardcore title.
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Post by Heresy on Jun 28, 2008 9:45:16 GMT -5
Both Tazz and Raven were wasted in the Hardcore division but should've become main eventers.
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Post by AndyPeck13 on Jun 28, 2008 11:51:28 GMT -5
To be fair, he lost 'the spark' to wrestle - and maybe WWE did have plans for him in the future. It's not their fault. maybe if he wasn't booked like a chump he wouldn't have lost his "spark" i know he had neck and back problems, so i'm sure that played a factor...but still they didn't really have to do much with him at the time to make him big... he came in and choked out Kurt Angle, giving him his first loss...he should have went on an undefeated streak for a good chunk of time and then atleast got a shot at the World Title...
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Post by scoobypat on Jun 28, 2008 11:54:56 GMT -5
I posted the actual reason why he was never pushed, but everyone ignores it, splendid. To further my point, how many suplex's did we see from Tazz in his WWF career? Very few, his body couldn't handle it, his body began to break down, he changed attires, styles, etc. His persona no longer fit his style so that was changed too, it was all due to injury which eventually led to his retirement.
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Post by the franchise on Jun 28, 2008 12:09:24 GMT -5
Taz wasn't perceived to be on the same level as the top guys so there was no way they were going to push him.
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Post by Ryan on Jun 28, 2008 12:27:29 GMT -5
If Mysterio could be champion, Tazz could. I hate how Vince never pushed any WCW/ECW guy. Oh yeah, they never pushed any ECW/WCW guy, other than Chris Benoit, Rey Mysterio, Eddie Guerrero, Steve Austin, Booker .T., Goldberg, Rob Van Dam, Triple .H., Ric Flair, Diesel and Chris Jericho. Haha, yeah, I know. There has been plenty pushed.
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Post by layzie on Jun 28, 2008 12:34:11 GMT -5
it is what it is, i refuse to get upset at all the company's mistakes any more
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