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Post by karobrokaro on Jun 27, 2008 22:03:04 GMT -5
WWE doesnt care about Black people? ...possibly, well in the grander sense. Dont overlook this, as this is a legit/truthful concern. Think about it. Has there really been any Black Major Champion outside of the rock(whose half by the way) and Booker T in the past 25 years? Then suddenly over the past year they decided they needed to get more Black superstars...However, all of the black superstars they have, are just there to fill a demographic target. None of them are legit contenders or being groomed for anything bigger. It seems fishy to me. It's like they always want to hold the brothas back. Whenever a black man is on the cusp of really breaking out, they never seem to do anything with them. Or when they do decide to finally let them sink/swim it's always too late and they relegate them back into obscurity and mediocrity, never to really break out and become something Bigger. Recently here's looking at: Simmons Mark Henry-The guy needed to threaten to sue the company for a push after being openly harassed and violated about his pigmentation. Cryme Tyme Elijah Burke MVP OJ Shelton
Really the amount of Black Superstars in comparison to Caucasian is ridiculous. Something like a 5:1 ratio. Let's not forget the fact that the WWE openly destroyed HAssans character with full knowledge beforehand of the repercussions.. Just for some television ratings that backfired BIG TIME.
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Post by JCF on Jun 27, 2008 22:03:58 GMT -5
Wow.
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Post by slappy on Jun 27, 2008 22:07:39 GMT -5
Booker T.
Mark Henry has always been pushed.
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Post by khalicantwrestle on Jun 27, 2008 22:08:29 GMT -5
You forgot John Cena
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Post by iyfwkidzc on Jun 27, 2008 22:11:03 GMT -5
No, Cena is now a marine. And Hassan isn't black.
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Post by karobrokaro on Jun 27, 2008 22:11:29 GMT -5
You're right, i forgot about him. 2 superstars in the past 25 years, and if he hadnt already established himself as a mainstay in WCW it would've never happened. They dont groom their own Black Superstars. However with T, he wasnt supposed to be a long reigning champ as he was just kinda there during a time of injuries and a major lack of stars- but he got himself over with the good gimmick. Then what happened, they start jobbing him and Triple H comes back and oppresses the man even more. Which led to him exiting the company to a more respectful work environment in TNA. Booker T. Mark Henry has always been pushed.
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Post by dancinfatass on Jun 27, 2008 22:12:30 GMT -5
Lets forget that Shelton Benjamin had the longest reign as a IC champion not to long ago. Booker T was world champion. MVP was longest reigning U.S champion in a long time just recently. Jazz was a womans champion not too long ago. Black Lesnar was just ing ECW champion before he ed everything up and quit. Hassan wasn't an arab... he was an italian.. your intellectually- disabled... *Edit* Kofi Kingston is in line for a huge push if you haven't noticed btw...
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Post by Mr. McCluer on Jun 27, 2008 22:12:35 GMT -5
nice MVP i think will probally be world champion one day, but yeha booker t was champion, Bobby lashley was ecw champion
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Post by ultimateking on Jun 27, 2008 22:13:29 GMT -5
Yes, everyone's a racist (no, I'm not serious about this).
Booker T and Ron Simmons are good examples of great athletes that had great careers, whether they're African-American or not.
Shelton isn't a bigger star because he doesn't have enough charisma. It has nothing to do with his skin color . . . . he's just bland. Same with Henry.
Cryme Tyme pretty much scream "racial stereotype". They're as much to blame for this as anyone.
Orlando Jordan just straight up sucks. I don't care if he were green, he'd still suck.
Isn't MVP Israli? I didn't think he was African-American. I might be wrong . . . .
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Post by The Dude on Jun 27, 2008 22:21:22 GMT -5
Yes, everyone's a racist (no, I'm not serious about this). Booker T and Ron Simmons are good examples of great athletes that had great careers, whether they're African-American or not. Shelton isn't a bigger star because he doesn't have enough charisma. It has nothing to do with his skin color . . . . he's just bland. Same with Henry. Cryme Tyme pretty much scream "racial stereotype". They're as much to blame for this as anyone. Orlando Jordan just straight up sucks. I don't care if he were green, he'd still suck. Isn't MVP Israli? I didn't think he was African-American. I might be wrong . . . . No, MVP is black, just light skinned. But he is Muslim, that may be why you got confused.
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Post by karobrokaro on Jun 27, 2008 22:23:23 GMT -5
Oh god, when i look at it that way it makes sense now! Black IC Champs: Booker T, Shelton. Ok Caucasian Champs in the past 10 years: Chris Jericho Jeff Hardy Lance Storm Billy Gun Angle Edge Rvd Santino Orton Christian Triple H Kane Benoit Black US Champions: MVP, Jordan, Lashley, Booker T. Wow, quite a few names, looks like this is the Belt they prefer for the Black Superstars. Lets look at the Caucasians that were Recent Champs: Cena JBL Benoit Hardy Finlay Mr. Kennedy Big Show Edge Angle Rhyno Black Womens Champions: JazzCaucasian Champs: Glamazon Mickie Candice Molly Chyna Ivory All of the aforementioned champs were multiple champs, whereas JAzz was just once. When you look at it like this, you can see where im coming from. Lets forget that Shelton Benjamin had the longest reign as a IC champion not to long ago. Booker T was world champion. MVP was longest reigning U.S champion in a long time just recently. Jazz was a womans champion not too long ago. Black Lesnar was just ing ECW champion before he ed everything up and quit. Hassan wasn't an arab... he was an italian.. your intellectually- disabled...
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Post by Mike Dell on Jun 27, 2008 22:28:39 GMT -5
Oh god, when i look at it that way it makes sense now! Black IC Champs: Booker T, Shelton. Ok Caucasian Champs in the past 10 years: Chris Jericho Jeff Hardy Lance Storm Billy Gun Angle Edge Rvd Santino Orton Christian Triple H Kane Benoit Black US Champions: MVP, Jordan, Lashley, Booker T. Wow, quite a few names, looks like this is the Belt they prefer for the Black Superstars. Lets look at the Caucasians that were Recent Champs: Cena JBL Benoit Hardy Finlay Mr. Kennedy Big Show Edge Angle Rhyno Black Womens Champions: JazzCaucasian Champs: Glamazon Mickie Candice Molly Chyna Ivory All of the aforementioned champs were multiple champs, whereas JAzz was just once. When you look at it like this, you can see where im coming from. Lets forget that Shelton Benjamin had the longest reign as a IC champion not to long ago. Booker T was world champion. MVP was longest reigning U.S champion in a long time just recently. Jazz was a womans champion not too long ago. Black Lesnar was just ing ECW champion before he ed everything up and quit. Hassan wasn't an arab... he was an italian.. your intellectually- disabled... It doesn't take a moron to take into consideration the fact that there is a much higher percentage of white wrestlers than "brothas" as you put it. If anything I would argue that a higher percentage of black wrestlers eventually become champions as compared to whites.
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Post by Triple S on Jun 27, 2008 22:28:43 GMT -5
Kinda on topic, I still think McMahon hit Mark Henry's daughter with a car or something and Henry didn't take him to court... McMahon must owe Henry big time, for him to have been signed for so many years.
... same goes with Viscera.
- Triple S
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Post by deskjet on Jun 27, 2008 22:29:54 GMT -5
Booker T. There's less black people I think in wrestling in general, at least from what i observed
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Post by Kurt Burton: Script Doctor! on Jun 27, 2008 22:32:26 GMT -5
Let's talk about percentages here. Honestly, how many black proffessional wrestlers have you ever seen. I think in this thread the vast majority of African American wrestlers were mentioned.
And how many caucassian wrestlers? Wow, like 50 billion.
The fact there have only been three black world champions is not surprising for the WWE, it is astounding considering the percentage of black wrestlers. Like a quarter of the black wrestlers get a title. Less than five percent of the caucasion wrestlers have held the world title. Wow, big difference.
So you are right. WWE is racist. They hate white people.
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Post by ultimateking on Jun 27, 2008 22:38:16 GMT -5
Yes, everyone's a racist (no, I'm not serious about this). Booker T and Ron Simmons are good examples of great athletes that had great careers, whether they're African-American or not. Shelton isn't a bigger star because he doesn't have enough charisma. It has nothing to do with his skin color . . . . he's just bland. Same with Henry. Cryme Tyme pretty much scream "racial stereotype". They're as much to blame for this as anyone. Orlando Jordan just straight up sucks. I don't care if he were green, he'd still suck. Isn't MVP Israli? I didn't think he was African-American. I might be wrong . . . . No, MVP is black, just light skinned. But he is Muslim, that may be why you got confused. Yeah, that's probably it. Thanks for clearing it up. I don't know where I got Israli from . . . .
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Post by scoobypat on Jun 27, 2008 22:41:08 GMT -5
Oh god, when i look at it that way it makes sense now! Black IC Champs: Booker T, Shelton. Ok Caucasian Champs in the past 10 years: Chris Jericho Jeff Hardy Lance Storm Billy Gun Angle Edge Rvd Santino Orton Christian Triple H Kane Benoit Black US Champions: MVP, Jordan, Lashley, Booker T. Wow, quite a few names, looks like this is the Belt they prefer for the Black Superstars. Lets look at the Caucasians that were Recent Champs: Cena JBL Benoit Hardy Finlay Mr. Kennedy Big Show Edge Angle Rhyno Black Womens Champions: JazzCaucasian Champs: Glamazon Mickie Candice Molly Chyna Ivory All of the aforementioned champs were multiple champs, whereas JAzz was just once. When you look at it like this, you can see where im coming from. Ok I'll answer this easily and put this to bed. There have been more black US Champions/WHC's because Smackdown has always been on a channel with a typically large minority following. Smackdown has a huge hispanic and black fanbase, more so percentage wise then RAW. The WWE realizes this and they want to capitalize on that so they have more minority wrestlers on Smackdown, they've had it like that since the brand split. It's not racism it's understanding what your demographic identifies with. That's why there is such a large disparity between the too shows and such. TOPIC OVER Edit: And you forgot about Jackie as being a multiple womens champ, besides the fact that WWE hasn't had that many black female wrestlers thusly making that percentage very much so proportional.
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Post by dancinfatass on Jun 27, 2008 22:42:22 GMT -5
Oh god, when i look at it that way it makes sense now! Black IC Champs: Booker T, Shelton. Ok Caucasian Champs in the past 10 years: Chris Jericho Jeff Hardy Lance Storm Billy Gun Angle Edge Rvd Santino Orton Christian Triple H Kane Benoit Black US Champions: MVP, Jordan, Lashley, Booker T. Wow, quite a few names, looks like this is the Belt they prefer for the Black Superstars. Lets look at the Caucasians that were Recent Champs: Cena JBL Benoit Hardy Finlay Mr. Kennedy Big Show Edge Angle Rhyno Black Womens Champions: JazzCaucasian Champs: Glamazon Mickie Candice Molly Chyna Ivory All of the aforementioned champs were multiple champs, whereas JAzz was just once. When you look at it like this, you can see where im coming from. Lets forget that Shelton Benjamin had the longest reign as a IC champion not to long ago. Booker T was world champion. MVP was longest reigning U.S champion in a long time just recently. Jazz was a womans champion not too long ago. Black Lesnar was just ing ECW champion before he ed everything up and quit. Hassan wasn't an arab... he was an italian.. your intellectually- disabled... Lets just make a African American title than and a Mexican title and Asian title that we can just let Funaki have since he's the only Asian (Jimmy Wang Yang isn't one of them yeller people) In all reality your being racist yourself by even looking at race. You also have to look at the people your naming. Henry is injury prone, Simmons is retired and he was a Hardcore and Tag team champion on many ocassions, Cryme Tyme is due for a tag title run but they're still newish and are already STALE. Burke can't get any crowd reaction other than the internet e-peens that see him. MVP is and has been used properly. OJ sucked and he was given the U.S title and held it for a LONG time. Shelton is talented but hadn't proved himself when it came to mic time until recently in ECW. - D'lo Brown was a 3-4 time European Champion - Jaqueline was a Womens champion and get this FIRST WOMAN IN WWE TO HOLD THE CRUISERWEIGHT TITLE and guess what! Shes black call the cops a white woman didn't hold title first! - Mark Henry was a European Champion. - Shelton Benjamin is multi time Intercontinental Champion, Multi time tag team champion
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2008 22:44:01 GMT -5
ZOMG TNA HAS HAD TEH 8 BLACK CHAMPIONS, AND TEH ONLY 1 WORLD CHAMP IN TEH 6 YEARS
IT'S TEH RACIST!!!
Basically...
White wrestlers out weigh black wrestlers...
Wanna fix it?? Go ahead and start a white wrestler Holocaust..
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Post by dancinfatass on Jun 27, 2008 22:45:45 GMT -5
ZOMG TNA HAS HAD TEH 8 BLACK CHAMPIONS, AND TEH ONLY 1 WORLD CHAMP IN TEH 6 YEARS IT'S TEH RACIST!!! Basically... White wrestlers out weigh black wrestlers... Wanna fix it?? Go ahead and start a white wrestler Holocaust.. Tell me about it, they're making a black guy act like a cracked out old white man.
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