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Post by Deep Figure Value on Jul 7, 2008 18:53:17 GMT -5
Well Superman would easily beat him since he actually has super powers. If Batman invented some sort of arsenal that contained kryptonite then I guess he'd have a chance. He has a Kryptonite ring.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2008 18:58:24 GMT -5
Well Superman would easily beat him since he actually has super powers. If Batman invented some sort of arsenal that contained kryptonite then I guess he'd have a chance. He has a Kryptonite ring. I did not know that.. Well, then Batman just has to whip that out and drain Superman down to a normal human.
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Post by T R W on Jul 7, 2008 19:01:26 GMT -5
The better question is Batman vs. Captain America! Oh snap! Now that's a fight I'd want to see. It happened in the 1997 Marvel vs. DC crossover. Batman won.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Jul 7, 2008 19:12:28 GMT -5
Wait - let's take some handicaps into consideration - are we talking just Batman Batman, or are we talking Grant Morrison Batman #678 tripping out on heroin hallucinating about hobos and Bat-Mite in a red, yellow, and purple outfit Batman? 'Cause if it's the latter, Supes doesn't stand a chance.
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Post by Double J on Jul 7, 2008 19:24:16 GMT -5
He has a Kryptonite ring. I did not know that.. Well, then Batman just has to whip that out and drain Superman down to a normal human. It's not like the ring does a whole hell of a lot, it's basically enough to make him feel a punch or stun him shortly. Just like in Hush.
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Post by BigDaddyChacon on Jul 7, 2008 19:35:25 GMT -5
Batman wins due to the fact that Superman gave him a Kryptonite ring to use "just in case". Has anybody ever read JLA: Tower of Babel? Bats doesn't take down the JLA directly, but it was his contingency plans that did take them down.
Batman > all
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Post by Raoul the Great on Jul 7, 2008 21:12:03 GMT -5
My geeky friends and I have discussed this battle extensively. It breaks down like this:
Regular Superman has morals and compassion, he doesn't like violence and never kills. Batman has files on every superhero on ways to defeat them. Batman wins out of sheer will and preparation.
HOWEVER, an amoral Superman, as in one without morals and has no problem with killing, could easily take out Batman. One easy way is grab Batman, then shoot up into the stratosphere at light speed and simply let Batman go into the recesses of space to die. So an amoral Superman would most likely defeat Batman as seen in Red Son when Batman could never kill Soviet Superman.
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Post by Jamal on Jul 7, 2008 22:10:33 GMT -5
Batman > every other superhero.
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Post by Patrick Bateman on Jul 7, 2008 23:00:46 GMT -5
Everyone brings up Batman owning a Kryptonite ring. Here's something about that-- #1 -- The ring contains a small fragment of Kryptonite, it would not stop an angry, on-coming Superman. #2 -- He has to reach into his belt to even get it. You all know how fast Superman is. Superman has plenty of flaws. With good writers, Superman is one of the most interesting comic characters in current comicdom. Good writers know that Superman will never get pass the "Invulnerable Boyscout" stigma, this supposed infallible dogooder that does everything right, saves the day, beats the baddy, and has the people praise his name all while holding the American flag and telling children to be nice to their parents. Good Superman stories feature him reacting to people that actually can kill him and showing how much of a multi-tiered character Superman is. Even better stories focus on Superman dealing with moral or abstract issues: why he does the things he does, instead of just doing them. Red Son, Kingdom Come, etc. I loved the line in Red Son where Soviet Superman remarks "They called me a soldier, but that just wasn't true. A soldier always follows orders, a soldier knows and hates the enemy, a soldier only fights and dies for his own people. I just fought for what was right." Well said. #1 and #2 apply to you, sir. you know, you're right but i think there is more to it. it's not just my bias - much of superman's character doesn't exactly make sense, there are paradox's and flaws to his existance such as the fact that he can 'read through entire libraries in seconds' yet has any real problems to face in the physical world...it doesn't add up. this is obvious, but the point i'm making out of it is he is a fictional character in a comic book, and so is batman. You're right, Superman has to be one of the most inconsistant characters in history. But his ideals, beliefs and what he stands for remain constant. That's why he's so enduring to me.
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Post by chumped on Jul 7, 2008 23:04:42 GMT -5
Everyone brings up Batman owning a Kryptonite ring. Here's something about that-- #1 -- The ring contains a small fragment of Kryptonite, it would not stop an angry, on-coming Superman. #2 -- He has to reach into his belt to even get it. You all know how fast Superman is.Superman has plenty of flaws. With good writers, Superman is one of the most interesting comic characters in current comicdom. Good writers know that Superman will never get pass the "Invulnerable Boyscout" stigma, this supposed infallible dogooder that does everything right, saves the day, beats the baddy, and has the people praise his name all while holding the American flag and telling children to be nice to their parents. Good Superman stories feature him reacting to people that actually can kill him and showing how much of a multi-tiered character Superman is. Even better stories focus on Superman dealing with moral or abstract issues: why he does the things he does, instead of just doing them. Red Son, Kingdom Come, etc. I loved the line in Red Son where Soviet Superman remarks "They called me a soldier, but that just wasn't true. A soldier always follows orders, a soldier knows and hates the enemy, a soldier only fights and dies for his own people. I just fought for what was right." Well said. "Not easy to do when your opponent's faster than a...well, you know."
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Post by Patrick Bateman on Jul 7, 2008 23:47:48 GMT -5
Everyone brings up Batman owning a Kryptonite ring. Here's something about that-- #1 -- The ring contains a small fragment of Kryptonite, it would not stop an angry, on-coming Superman. #2 -- He has to reach into his belt to even get it. You all know how fast Superman is.Well said. "Not easy to do when your opponent's faster than a...well, you know." img88.imageshack.us/img88/2300/action8292005c77d2eecustom6bp.jpg[/img] Not fast enough.
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Post by The Gromble on Jul 8, 2008 16:28:58 GMT -5
Now that's a fight I'd want to see. It happened in the 1997 Marvel vs. DC crossover. Batman won. Wasn't it a draw?? Wait...now thinking about it, Batman did get the upper hand when fighting in the sewers but, like always they stopped because fighting was useless. Even though the situation demanded a winner. (Wont spoil it for people who have not read it) I think the match-up of Batman/Cap was waayy better in JLA/Avengers. Back on topic, its hard to say. It really comes down to it being Brains vs Brawn. I haven't read enough DC comics to write a well thought out thesis on these superheroes. If you wanna see who would win type in "Batman vs Superman MUGEN" on YOUTUBE Then you'll get your answer JLA VS AVENGERS:
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Post by kidkazi on Aug 3, 2008 12:15:26 GMT -5
this is how it would play out...
Batman and supes walk by each other greeting one another.
Supes: Wassup punk ass?
Batman: ......
Supes: thats what i thought
Supes walks past Batman, Batman turns around and stabs Supes with a knife of Kryptonite.
Batman: Surprise Cockfag!
Supes (bleeding and slowly dying): Why?
Batman: Because my comics have way more structure than yours ever did.
Supes dies and Batman returns to the bat cave for some scotch and pancakes.
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Post by PdW2kX on Aug 3, 2008 14:46:36 GMT -5
Don't bump old topics, especially with such asinine, ridiculous, utterly childish, morbidly stupid posts like that.
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