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Post by becca on Jul 19, 2008 9:47:51 GMT -5
Seriously, who wants to be a fan of that guy now?? I know I sure as hell don't. This is like UFC's version of O.J. Simpson or Michael Vick or something like that. You are a  ing idiot who clearly has never known anybody affected by mental illness. OJ Simpson KILLED two people. Michael Vick ran an illegal dogfighting ring for YEARS and brutally murdered dogs without a second thought. Not to mention the supposed rape that conveniently went away. This is clearly not the same thing. With the reports of his depression and medication, the last thing that he needs is to be fired and left out in the cold. He clearly needs mental help, and it's because of insensitive morons like you that mental illness still has a stigma in our society and that people end up dying like Heath Leger instead of getting the help they need. If anything, Dana should help check Rampage into a mental institution, and take a proactive role in making sure he's mentally stable before he ever fights again. |
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Post by Codesters on Jul 19, 2008 9:54:11 GMT -5
But the Pills he was taking may have had a major roll in his actions. Pills can make you do things and not even be aware youre doing it. Jackson should take responsibility, and he is or he wouldnt be cooperative with police. BUT theres still a major possibility he was doped up on pills and had impaired judgement. but you should use common sense and not drive .......When your judgement is impaired its pretty hard to use common sense. |
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Jul 19, 2008 10:17:43 GMT -5
Seriously, who wants to be a fan of that guy now?? I know I sure as hell don't. This is like UFC's version of O.J. Simpson or Michael Vick or something like that. You are a ing idiot who clearly has never known anybody affected by mental illness. OJ Simpson KILLED two people. Michael Vick ran an illegal dogfighting ring for YEARS and brutally murdered dogs without a second thought. Not to mention the supposed rape that conveniently went away. This is clearly not the same thing. With the reports of his depression and medication, the last thing that he needs is to be fired and left out in the cold. He clearly needs mental help, and it's because of insensitive morons like you that mental illness still has a stigma in our society and that people end up dying like Heath Leger instead of getting the help they need. If anything, Dana should help check Rampage into a mental institution, and take a proactive role in making sure he's mentally stable before he ever fights again. Ok, let me ask you this. Do you feel as sorry for the people that were on the sidewalk when Rampage drove up on it and they had to run for their lives?? Do you feel sorry for them?? From the sounds of it, you don't. You feel more sorry for the ing maniac responsible instead of the innocent victims that were caught up in this whole mess. Insenseitive?? You are ing calling ME insensitive?? Give me a ing break. I am sensitive alright, to the victims, not the idiot that decided to get behind the wheel and cause multiple crashes and take off, drive wrecklessly up on the sidewalk, blast through several red lights until his tire blew and couldn't continue further. I can't believe some of you people actually feel sorry for this ing guy. Take a few seconds and just think about who could have been there walking on the sidewalk when Rampage drove up on it...How about a family with their baby in a stroller?? How about an elderly couple?? How about a young, recently married couple out for a walk?? How about a couple of young kids on their way over to a friends house?? You don't know who it could have been and neither do I. But I do know they are the victims here and they didn't do anything wrong and I'm SO glad Rampage didn't hit any of them while he was trying to make his getaway. And even if he did, I'm sure idiots like you would STILL feel sorry for him. It seriously COULD have been so much worse. How about when he ran through several red lights?? Anyone could've been walking across during that time and thank God they weren't or else they would've been flattened by Rampage as he blasted his way through. Insensitive?? Me?? I think you've got it all wrong, honey. If there's anyone insensitive and not even thinking about the innocent people involved here, it's you. End of story. |
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Post by Overnight Sensation on Jul 19, 2008 13:26:42 GMT -5
^ Mr.Old School your making YOURSELF look like an bunghole in this thread by pushing your opinion on everyone else. My family has a long string of depression and these meds you up and make you make horrible decsions and that is what Rampage Jackson did. yes he was the guy driving the car that did all of the crimes, but it wasn't his mind telling him to do it. It was the meds.. Rampage Jackson didn't get put in jail, so he isnt the criminal you make him out to be, he is medically unifit to be put Jail, and that is why they took him in the 2nd time. For Medical Evaluation.. Do I condone what Rampage did, no I do not, but you cannot leave someone in his situation out in the cold, cause then his depression will take the best of him and we will see a million RIP Rampage Jackson posts. So please stop trying to force your opinion on people..and go talk about what you know..your classic wrestling and please dont disrespect myself, or becca, or codesters, or ricky by calling us idiots...and dont refer to becca as honey...its just creepy *waits for Mr.Old Schools big post trashing everyword i say and forcing his opinion on me* |
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Post by becca on Jul 19, 2008 14:29:05 GMT -5
Nobody is condoning what Rampage did. But when your first post right after the incident is about whether or not Rampage should have a job is not exactly the right way to go about your frustrations. The first thing that should come to anyone's mind is well I hope everyone is alright, including Rampage, and let's get this guy some help because he is a danger to himself and everyone around him.
He obviously has alot of mental issues so what you think is right would be for the company to just fire him and not help him get over this? This whole thing has nothing to do with him fighting or his career. He didn't just get drunk and start doing dumb **** for the hell of it like Jesse Taylor, by the looks of it he has a legitimate mental illness. We will discuss his career and the ramifications this incident will have on it once we find out that he is alright and gets over his demons.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Jul 19, 2008 14:48:34 GMT -5
^ I ain't trying to push my opinion on anybody. I'm just posting my opinion on the matter, that's all and what I believe is right. Rampage is guilty of these crimes...Yes or no?? If you don't vote yes, then there's a serious problem here. Also, you say don't disrespect others. Well how about they don't disrespect me first and I wouldn't have to do the same?? How about that?? She called me a ing idiot first and I felt obligated to defend myself. Don't make me out to be the bad guy here because I'm not. Regardless if it was the medication that was affecting him, that's still no excuse for what he did and you can try to tell me a thousand times over that it was, but NO excuse you or anyone else can ever come up with will ever justify what he did because there is no justification. I realize Rampage didn't get put into jail because the police deemed him "medically unfit", but that doesn't mean he won't end up in jail when this whole thing wraps up. I do hope he ends up in jail because that's where he belongs after what he did. Anyone else who did what Ramapge did by smashing into two cars and fleeing the scene, leading the police on a high-speed chase, driving up on the sidewalk endangering peoples lives, and running numerous red-lights would be immediately thrown in jail. No question about it. But because he's Quinton Jackson and deemed "medically unfit", he gets to slip by, which I believe is total bullcrap. He did the crimes, so he should do the time. No other way around that fact. It just pisses me off that you and others defend him when you know he's guilty as hell. I bet if you or possibly a family member, were on the sidewalk when Rampage drove up, that your opinion would be much, much different. I'm just thinking about the innocent bystanders involved here and I suggest you and others do the same. Hopefully your opinion might change. |
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Post by NYdream™ on Jul 19, 2008 15:06:36 GMT -5
I agree with both partys on this. Yes what Rampage did was worng. But no the first thing that happens should not be he gets arrested. Medications mess you up bad and can sometimes make you do things you wouldnt normally do. I know first hand because my father takes meds like this. I feel sorry for the innocent people on the sidewalk but dude listen. NOBODY GOT HURT. The only person close to getting hurt was Rampage because of the medications. Yea some cars got wrecked but sending him to jail would only further his depression. It could even cause him to commit suicide like Heath Ledger, and if you think that him committing suicide because he deserves to go to jail then your a scum bag. If Rampage was your brother how would you feel? Would you want him going to jail and furthering his depression or would you want him treated in a medical center? Anwser me!
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Post by Overnight Sensation on Jul 19, 2008 15:33:22 GMT -5
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I'm not sticking up for Rampage, he did the crimes...HOWEVER the medications he is on are so powerful they take over your emotions and all of your decsion making..causing horrible decsions to be made..how do I kno this? because my mother is on the same shit..thats why I feel how I do
He shouldn't be fired regardless of what he did, Firing a depressed person, is illegal and Rampage would have a HUGE lawsuit on his hands for wrongful termination. He should be put on a medical suspenion and get put in rehabilitation.
And no not everyone would be thrown in jail, if they did crimes and were on pills, they would be deemed medically unfit to be put in jail, him being Quinton Jackson has nothing to do with it..
and once again i will wait for your post forcing your opinion on everyone. Becuse yano, we are all idiots that can't have logical opinions about why Rampage did it..Im not sticking up for him because what he did is wrong, but the pills are the reason why he did it and some type of action should be taken..but not being fired
*waits for old school to talk more crapand not see the 2nd side of the actions*
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Jul 19, 2008 15:38:24 GMT -5
I agree with both partys on this. Yes what Rampage did was worng. But no the first thing that happens should not be he gets arrested. Medications mess you up bad and can sometimes make you do things you wouldnt normally do. I know first hand because my father takes meds like this. I feel sorry for the innocent people on the sidewalk but dude listen. NOBODY GOT HURT. The only person close to getting hurt was Rampage because of the medications. Yea some cars got wrecked but sending him to jail would only further his depression. It could even cause him to commit suicide like Heath Ledger, and if you think that him committing suicide because he deserves to go to jail then your a scum bag. If Rampage was your brother how would you feel? Would you want him going to jail and furthering his depression or would you want him treated in a medical center? Anwser me! Well, first off, thank you for partially agreeing with me. I'm glad someone is thinking about the other people here, instead of only Rampage. And I do realize nobody got hurt thank God, and they were all extremely fortunate not to get run down by Rampage during that time. Rampage wasn't stopping for no-one or nothing. The only reason the chase stopped is because his tire blew. If it didn't, I'm sure he would've continued his path of destruction and I don't even want to think about what COULD have happened then. What happened before was bad enough and if it would've continued, I'm sure the end result would most certainly have been much, much worse. And if you are all so worried about him possibly over-dosing (like Heath Ledger), here's a simple solution...Take the ing medication away from him and don't give him any more. Simple as that. If he doesn't have it and can't get his hands on it, then the problem of him possibly over-dosing is solved and you won't have to worry about it. If Rampage was my brother, I'd probably be sickened to my stomach knowing that my brother could be capable of doing something like this. It would just make me sick. And no, I wouldn't want to see him go to jail at all. I'd want to get him the help he needs and see him get better. If and when the doctors do release Rampage back on the street, I just hope nothing else happens....I've got a bad feeling about it though.... |
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Jul 19, 2008 15:54:26 GMT -5
^ I'm not sticking up for Rampage, he did the crimes...HOWEVER the medications he is on are so powerful they take over your emotions and all of your decsion making..causing horrible decsions to be made..how do I kno this? because my mother is on the same ****..thats why I feel how I do Ok, if the medication he is taking is to blame, then why the hell is he taking it in the first place?? I mean, if it's doing more bad then good, then why the hell is he taking it?? If the medication is screwing up his mind, then why are they even allowing him to take it?? Someone please answer me that because I've got to know this one. If the medication he was taking is to blame, then I just hope the doctors are smart enough to take him off of it before they cause any further damage because from the sounds of it, they weren't doing any good in the first place!! |
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Post by Patrick Bateman (original) on Jul 19, 2008 16:55:06 GMT -5
^ If the medication is screwing up his mind, then why are they even allowing him to take it?? Someone please answer me that because I've got to know this one. Because the doctors don't know how everyones body will react to certain things. So they prescribe it. The patient takes it thinking it will make him better. But their are cases where the opposite happens because that persons body reacts differentl than the majority. |
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Post by Johnny Lawrence - Cobra Kai on Jul 20, 2008 14:08:12 GMT -5
Everybody cool it with calling other members idiots. I know you can all get your points across without making it personal. Please do so.
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Post by spawnsyxx9 on Jul 23, 2008 2:08:12 GMT -5
Hell no... with press like this he could really turn into the next Tito.
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