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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2008 14:55:13 GMT -5
Is it sad that I want to see this movie a second time? lol Anyway, why is alot of people hating on Bale? I personally think it is cool that he seperates his voice and the Batman voice and I think he is the second best Bruce Wayne/Batman actor next to Keaton. It's very sad, no one should ever see a movie more than 1 time. It's inhuman.
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Post by Patrick Bateman on Jul 19, 2008 15:00:17 GMT -5
Yep, he's also not credited in writing the story or the screenplay for the film. Which means if it is based off of his story(haven't read it), they had to alter it enough so they wouldn't be sued. The film left it a mystery, there was nothing that concluded that he died. Dennis O'Neil, author of the novelization, did more for Batman than Christopher Nolan, director of said movie, ever could.
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Post by LAXxxx305 on Jul 19, 2008 15:01:26 GMT -5
Is it sad that I want to see this movie a second time? lol Anyway, why is alot of people hating on Bale? I personally think it is cool that he seperates his voice and the Batman voice and I think he is the second best Bruce Wayne/Batman actor next to Keaton. It's very sad, no one should ever see a movie more than 1 time. It's inhuman. Well, I might see it tonight or Wednesday again. Then I am going to buy the DVD.
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Post by T R W on Jul 19, 2008 15:21:29 GMT -5
Yep, he's also not credited in writing the story or the screenplay for the film. Which means if it is based off of his story(haven't read it), they had to alter it enough so they wouldn't be sued. The film left it a mystery, there was nothing that concluded that he died. Except for the fact that he is obviously dead.
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Post by juggarnautmofo on Jul 19, 2008 15:38:23 GMT -5
did anybody else have some sort of feeling that the prisioner who was on the ferry, the 1 who was in Friday and crapwho said he would push the button, did anyone maybe sorta think that could be Bane..... I had that odd feeling for some reason
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Post by Kody on Jul 19, 2008 15:42:13 GMT -5
I haven't gotten a chance to really post all my thoughts on this movie yet, since I saw it yesterday morning.
It was such an amazing movie. Heath Ledger put on SUCH an amazing performance. He deserves AT LEAST a nomination for best supporting actor; he was incredible. He was creepy, yet hilarious. The magic trick with the pencil, the hospital scene, the clapping in the cell, the one phone call...all of that was so damn funny. He stole the show, and it's a damn he was unable to see his completed work. I like to think he would have loved it, and all the great reviews he's been getting.
As far as a squeal goes, I really don't know if I want one. Because, you know that there's no way you could just ignore The Joker in it, because of the huge impact on Gotham he had in TDK. But there is NO WAY I want Heath Ledger replaced. IMHO, there is NO ONE who could pull off The Joker like he did, now. And I also don't want to see another film if there's no Nolan. (I heard a while ago that he might not want to do a third, but idk if that's true)
This was an awesome movie, and it truly did live up to it's expectations, if not surpassed them. I can't wait to see it again; This may be the first movie I ever see twice while it's in theaters. And I'm pumped to get it on Blu-Ray DVD.
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Post by Kody on Jul 19, 2008 15:44:17 GMT -5
did anybody else have some sort of feeling that the prisioner who was on the ferry, the 1 who was in Friday and **** who said he would push the button, did anyone maybe sorta think that could be Bane..... I had that odd feeling for some reason Yeah, I actually said that to my brother after the movie.
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Post by T R W on Jul 19, 2008 15:47:51 GMT -5
Zeus is BANE! lol
ANyway, as good as Heath was, the charcter of the Joke is bigger than Heath Ledger, and can, and will be played by someone else.
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Post by Quanthor on Jul 19, 2008 15:48:01 GMT -5
Yep, he's also not credited in writing the story or the screenplay for the film. Which means if it is based off of his story(haven't read it), they had to alter it enough so they wouldn't be sued. The film left it a mystery, there was nothing that concluded that he died. Except for the fact that he is obviously dead. How is he obviously dead? At what point to they directly allude to the death of Harvey? To me it's wide open, I don't care what the novelization says, things are rendered and edited constantly in pictures, perhaps Nolan wanted it to remain open, because that's just as valid as saying he's dead. Seriously, I think this will end up being the most talked about moment in the film, and I guarantee to you Nolan will be asked of this and his response will be as vague as the end of that film.
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Post by K5 on Jul 19, 2008 15:58:21 GMT -5
did anybody else have some sort of feeling that the prisioner who was on the ferry, the 1 who was in Friday and **** who said he would push the button, did anyone maybe sorta think that could be Bane..... I had that odd feeling for some reason Yeah, I actually said that to my brother after the movie. my god no! it'd make no sense at all
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Post by Patrick Bateman on Jul 19, 2008 15:59:07 GMT -5
Except for the fact that he is obviously dead. How is he obviously dead? At what point to they directly allude to the death of Harvey? To me it's wide open, I don't care what the novelization says, things are rendered and edited constantly in pictures, perhaps Nolan wanted it to remain open, because that's just as valid as saying he's dead. Seriously, I think this will end up being the most talked about moment in the film, and I guarantee to you Nolan will be asked of this and his response will be as vague as the end of that film. He's dead, dude, get over it. If he wasn't, O'Neil wouldn't have written " .. and obviously dead." If Nolan wanted it ambigious, it would've been. The Nolan movies are based in realism, and no human being in just a three piece suit, with a half rotted face and exposed skin tissue, falls three or four stories onto his back and lives.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2008 16:04:07 GMT -5
So true, leave it up to people to think they know every single nook and crany of a movie... when in reality, they don't. Nothing said for sure that Harvey Dent and/or Two-Face are dead. Not one single thing. Which is the reason TRW and Bateman (no offense, guys) can't come up with anything other than "It's obvious" or "Thats how it happened in the novel". That means absolutely nothing. Movies are tweaked and changed constantly to leave openess and mystery to films, and really, guys... you know that.
Theres a reason nothing was shown to PROVE that Dent is dead, just incase. Again, am I saying he's alive and I know he is? No. But just like everyone else, I don't know. Nobody not involved with the movie does. Hell, I wouldn't be suprised if Nolan himself isn't sure if he'll bring him back or not yet.
But honestly, can we all agree to disagree that these are all just opinions? Theres no fact here, just what we think. And we're all entitled to our opinions. But again, it's not fact. Nor will it be, until something is shown/said that proves it.
- Triple S
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Post by Heresy on Jul 19, 2008 16:04:14 GMT -5
Holy shit, didn't even know Tiny Lister Jr. was the guy who through the detinator out the window... I met that guy at an airport in Orlando... guy is hilarious.
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Post by D-Rock on Jul 19, 2008 16:05:03 GMT -5
Guys, I am looking for the exact wording of when joker and dent are in the hospital and joker says to him.....
"My life is like a dog chasing cars....if I ever catch on I wouldn't know what to do with it..."
Something along those lines....and while I have quotes brought up, what was your fav of the movie...by far that ewas mine.
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Post by Bubba Ray DJ on Jul 19, 2008 16:06:26 GMT -5
This thread has now gotten ridiculous.
I mean these are Eddie Guerrero type death / alive conspiracy theories.
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Post by juggarnautmofo on Jul 19, 2008 16:09:08 GMT -5
Yeah, I actually said that to my brother after the movie. my god no! it'd make no sense at all How would that make no sense.... Bane was an escaped convict that got addicted to venom which made him go insane and start ing crapup includeing batman.... That guy in the movie is obviously big enough to be bane and was a convict in the movie, alls they have to do is give him a more realistic story
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Post by Bones Jones on Jul 19, 2008 16:20:57 GMT -5
If the Joker is going to be in a 3rd Batman movie, if it's made, who do you think has the capability of an equal or greater performance?
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Post by Patrick Bateman on Jul 19, 2008 16:23:20 GMT -5
my god no! it'd make no sense at all How would that make no sense.... Bane was an escaped convict that got addicted to venom which made him go insane and start ing **** up includeing batman.... That guy in the movie is obviously big enough to be bane and was a convict in the movie, alls they have to do is give him a more realistic story Bane wasn't insane, he's probably one of Batman's most intelligent villians. What he accomplishes in Knightfall is beyond what any other villian could've done.
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Post by Patrick Bateman on Jul 19, 2008 16:28:37 GMT -5
So true, leave it up to people to think they know every single nook and crany of a movie... when in reality, they don't. Nothing said for sure that Harvey Dent and/or Two-Face are dead. Not one single thing. Which is the reason TRW and Bateman (no offense, guys) can't come up with anything other than "It's obvious" or "Thats how it happened in the novel". That means absolutely nothing. The novel is a direct interpretation of the movie. If Dent survived, or if it was meant to be up to the viewer, the line would've been written or changed to something like, "He wasn't obviously dead". Yet it's changed to obviously dead, and I bet I know why that was written that way.. probably partially so people on message boards/forums couldn't dispute it. Let's face it, if Dent's alive, the utterly perfect ending wouldn't work.. with Batman taking the fall for his actions. Plus, how could Two-Face survive that fall in a realistic world, AND.. how could that Two-Face interpretation turn into the kind of cheesy criminal overlord Two-Face? This Two-Face had nothing to live for, was hell bent on revenge, and even wanted to die himself. It just doesn't add up.
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Post by chumped on Jul 19, 2008 16:30:12 GMT -5
So true, leave it up to people to think they know every single nook and crany of a movie... when in reality, they don't. Nothing said for sure that Harvey Dent and/or Two-Face are dead. Not one single thing. Which is the reason TRW and Bateman (no offense, guys) can't come up with anything other than "It's obvious" or "Thats how it happened in the novel". That means absolutely nothing. The novel is a direct interpretation of the movie. If Dent survived, or if it was meant to be up to the viewer, the line would've been written or changed to something like, "He wasn't obviously dead". Yet it's changed to obviously dead, and I bet I know why that was written that way.. probably partially so people on message boards/forums couldn't dispute it. Let's face it, if Dent's alive, the utterly perfect ending wouldn't work.. with Batman taking the fall for his actions. Plus, how could Two-Face survive that fall in a realistic world, AND.. how could that Two-Face interpretation turn into the kind of cheesy criminal overlord Two-Face? This Two-Face had nothing to live for, was hell bent on revenge, and even wanted to die himself. It just doesn't add up. You make good points. I agree with it all.
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