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Post by DK Almighty on Jul 18, 2008 21:23:23 GMT -5
here just watch it online some one put it up on youtube
hahahaha
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2008 21:27:06 GMT -5
The pencil scene is up on youtube, just search joker + pencil
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Post by Iron Man on Jul 18, 2008 21:42:37 GMT -5
My God. I loved this movie. I know, just like everyone else, haha.
Anyway, I NEED to see this movie a few more times. It's sad thinking Joker was going to be in a 3rd film and even if he is, no Ledger. Ledger, the star of the movie by far. Every scene, every line was great. The 89's Joker has nothing on Ledger. Two Face was great but kinda ended a little early. Also I didn't like the ending much.
I am confused, in the end did Batman quit his 'batman' gig? Hence breaking the bat signal thing?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2008 21:50:33 GMT -5
Batman took the fall for Twofaces crimes to keep Harveys good name alive. So now Batman is on the run.
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Post by nightmare on Jul 18, 2008 22:17:59 GMT -5
Just got back from a 7:30 showing...
Loved it. Thought "Begins" was a bit overrated and boring, but this movie, while long had very little dead time. Its not flawless, but its pretty close.
1. I'm not in love with Bale's Batman. He plays the Bruce Wayne character perfectly, but that voice he uses in the bat suit is just a tad over the top. It was even more so in this film than the first one. Should have been toned down a bit.
2. Maggie Gyllenaal is absolutely terrible. I'm glad they wrote the Rachel Dawes character out, because how did Dawes get 6" taller, and fugly between films? Yes, I know Holmes sucked too, but maybe diminishing the role of the character to make it less obvious would have been the route to go.
3. Heath Ledger and Aaron Eckhart stole the show from Bale. While a Batman film, Ledger's Joker and Eckhart's Dent/Two Face made this film what it was. Few things live up to hype in life, but I am honest enough to admit that Heath Ledger's performance did live up to the hype, or at least most of it.
If I had to rate it on a numerical scale, which I don't like doing, I'd give it a 9/10.
Much better than Begins, which I really didn't like all that much. This one does take the cake as my favorite "Comic Book Movie," although in reality there wasn't much comic book about this film other than the characters. It played out more like a crime drama, and an excellent one.
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Post by Reasoning through Questioning on Jul 18, 2008 22:49:40 GMT -5
I actually loved it. I was thinking the same like that, but then I thought, why question it? Sure, it's a realistic take on Batman, but it stays true to the comics by having all of this technology that Bruce Wayne has access to that you never question in the comic books, no matter how far-fetched it may be. I thought the same thing with how easily Joker could be one, two, or three steps ahead of the GPD with his plans. It's a realistic approach to the movies, but it still has the basic fantasy elements of the comic books that still make it a comic book adaptation. It's far-fetched sometimes, but it's just plain fun to watch. Yeah, but that's wanting it both ways, like I said, I scoffed at the absurdity of it because Nolan already set the tone for it being "realistic", I honestly thought it was one of the major flaws in the film. The picture could have been just as great if not more so if they would have left those two pieces out of the movie.- they weren't needed.He is Bruce Wayne. He pisses dollar bills. Don't you think that with his wealth he can have technology that isn't known to us developed?
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Post by Quanthor on Jul 18, 2008 22:56:24 GMT -5
Yeah, but that's wanting it both ways, like I said, I scoffed at the absurdity of it because Nolan already set the tone for it being "realistic", I honestly thought it was one of the major flaws in the film. The picture could have been just as great if not more so if they would have left those two pieces out of the movie.- they weren't needed.He is Bruce Wayne. He pisses dollar bills. Don't you think that with his wealth he can have technology that isn't known to us developed? Known to us? I think you mean doesn't exist. Like I said, I was removed from the film for those few moments because of the "real" tone Nolan set from the very beginning of the picture. They couldn't have thought of something better? They had to conjure up a piece of technology to find Joker when he was in the same ing building that all the police were targeting? It was ridiculous and wasn't needed.
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Post by Suckasays on Jul 18, 2008 22:59:16 GMT -5
Hey... At least he didn't have to whip out the shark spray
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Post by Reasoning through Questioning on Jul 18, 2008 23:05:24 GMT -5
The best reason for the current franchise to continue (Bale is under contract for one more) is The Dark Knight strikes just too sour a note and needs a ray of sunshine to break through its shadows. It is over two hours of dread, fear, sadness, morbidity, and hopelessness. Batman's victories are minor and always at overwhelming cost. The conflicts in the film are only minimally resolved if resolved at all, and by all accounts, misery carries the day. Nolan's script (written along with brother, Jonathan) meekly attempts to deliver some good vibes with an extraneous, unconvincing scene toward the end involving ferries rigged with explosives where the passengers on each are challenged to save themselves by blowing up the other, but one implausible act of morality does not disperse the dark clouds rumbling above this movie. Batman and The Joker are human beings, with no superpowers or capabilities, and their danger, their menace lies only in a highly unstable psychological construct. Nolan stays unwaveringly true to that humanity, and reveals with broad strokes their deficiencies and insecurities. He takes the very reason we identify with Batman, holds it up, shines a spotlight, and proclaims: This is what kind of terror can occur in a corruptible society. I only have one question for Mr. Nolan as this is the summer and this is a movie based on a comic book: Why so serious? Thought this was interesting. A review I read. This is a snippet. The whole thing can be found with the link. www.bangitout.com/articles/viewarticle.php?a=2356
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Post by K5 on Jul 18, 2008 23:05:32 GMT -5
just got back. amazing, ofcourse. thought ledger played a really interesting joker.
when jim gordon was apparently killed, i was so outraged, snapping about how they can't kill him. when he suddenly came back, to my suprise i wasn't the only one releived as a lot of girls in the audience yelled in happiness. it was pretty wierd lol.
overall i thought the movie was great mostly because of the near exact character traits shown in the comics used in the movie. the joker was the most different, and christian bale isn't exactly who i'd have had playing batman, but jim gordon, two face and even luscious were dead on.
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Post by Sam Hain on Jul 18, 2008 23:20:09 GMT -5
Well, I saw it tonight and after all of the hype, all of the wait and all of the anticipation, I left the movie kinda underwhelmed.
It was a great movie....but not a great Batman movie. Roeper compared it to great crime drama's such as The Departed, which was a fair and just review, but I felt like they could have inserted any good guy into the lead role and it would have been the same movie.
The good:
-Heath Ledger. The man's vision of The Joker was amazing. He was the best thing about this movie. He was funny when he was supposed to be, intense when he needed to be and at times out right scary.
-Aaron Eckhart. Another great performance. I wasn't expecting much from him, since I wasn't that impressed with Thank You for Smoking, but he did really shine in this movie. He performance as Two Face was everything I'd hoped for and more.
- The fight scenes and chases. The car chases were great in this movie and the fight scenes came off well.
- The Bat Pod. I loved The Tumbler, but they managed to find a vehicle that matched it's coolness. The Bat Pod may actually be the cooler of the two.
- The ending. I'd read the spoilers on the internet, I read the last chapter of the novel, but I was still not prepared for the greatness that occured in the final scene. Batman making the ultimate sacrifice for Gotham was an amazing thing to see. Great way to leave it open for a sequel, or just end it like this.
and now....The Bad:
- Uhhhhhh, was Batman even in the movie? Seriously, I thought the point of restarting the series was to make it about Batman again. Bale had hardly any time on screen as Batman and even less as Bruce Wayne. There was no emotional connection to him and if there was, it was just left over from Begins. The "Batman" that The Joker killed almost got as much screen time as the real Batman.
- Gotham? In Begins, Nolan painted a dark, dreary, fantasy and named it Gotham City. He used numerous locations and created a city that was unique. Here, it just didn't feel like the same city. Where was the mono-rail? I could let that one slide, actually, since they blew it up in Begins, but Wayne Tower? They just happened to totally redo the building in the past year?
- Katie....how I miss you! Yup I missed Katie Holmes at Rachel. Maggie Gyllenhaal managed to annoy the crap out of me.
- Plot holes. As someone pointed out on IMDB....so after he throw Rachel out the window, and Dent is still hiding, the Joker just quietly leaves the party, so that Batman and Rachel can have their scene in the street? WTF? He just gave up his search for Dent and decided to go home and catch some Golden Girls reruns?
As I said, do not get me wrong, I loved this movie, but I didn't think it was a good Batman movie. It was lightyears better than Batman and Robin or Batman Forever, but it's rank it 4th in my all time great Batman movies. I guess for now Begins still has it's place on the top of my list.
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Post by juggarnautmofo on Jul 18, 2008 23:33:28 GMT -5
This movie was everything that it lived up to be, all the hype was well worth it.
1st) Ledger's performance was simply amazing, i dont think anybody couldve pulled off the homicidal maniac quite like him with some comic relief in between, and i hate to say it but Jack's performance in the 1st batman should bow down to this 1. Heath should easily win the oscar, his performance was well worth it and its to bad because if he does win its going to be dubbed by many that the reason he is going to win is because he died.
2nd) Eckheart's performance as dent/twoface shouldnt be recognized as well. To go from a white collared attorney general who is all for the good of people and the city, to a homicidal maniac himself seeking revenge was perfect and he deserves to be nominated himself, the only thing i have a problem with is how he died, i think he couldve died more dramtically because he just fell and it didnt seem like anything really big, but i guess ill live with it.
3rd) The story and all the action scenes were great. This movie should easily be nominated for best picture and nolan for best director imo it should win both awards. I love the way Dent developed into two face throughout the movie and when batman had to choose between saving Dent or Dawes, and it says a lot that he choose Dent because that shows he was looking out for the greater good of the city instead of his own personal interests.
4th) Maggie Gyhllenhal or however u spell her name was just horrible, shes so ugly and they shouldve waited for Katie Holmes, that was really bad casting.
5th) Sequel possibilities: Since they cant bring back Joker and Two-Face is dead, i think the best bet would to be to bring in a person like the riddler, but now that there is like a man hunt out for batman its really hard to tell what they r going to do as far as villians are concerned. Maybe riddler can leave riddles around gotham about the true identity of who batman is or where hes located or something along those lines, but i personally would love to see the bane breaking batman's back story and i think that would be the best way to go to try to get that movie as the same standard as this 1. But as we seen with past number 3 movies like Xmen 3 and Spiderman 3 we should be a little worried with that trend lol.... but overall this movie was amazing and up there with some of the greatest and i never thought i would say that ever about a Batman movie especially after Batman and Robin lmfao
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2008 23:36:44 GMT -5
Fun fact of the day: There was an episode of the 60s show where a one-time villain named The Bookworm killed an imposter Jim Gordon.
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Post by Kenny Powers on Jul 18, 2008 23:43:55 GMT -5
I saw it a 3:30 today and there was hardly anybody in the theater. it was at a small theater down the street from me thats hardly ever crowded. I thought it was one of the best comic book movies this year hellboy and iron man are the other great ones. And heath ledger and aaron eckhart both stole the show I hope they bring two-face back in the 3rd one cause I don't think he's dead. And i don't think they should bring back the joker in the 3rd movie it just wouldn't be the same without heath cause he knocked this proformance out of the park and it just wouldn't feel right having some one else in the jokers multi colored socks and heath is nolans joker. but I would love for them to add the riddler or catwoman now that rachels gone.
Overall I gave it a 10/10 just cause I loved every bit of it
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Post by pineappleexpress on Jul 18, 2008 23:47:32 GMT -5
Two Face is dead. I'm sure there would've been a body at the state funeral they had for Harvey. Gordon wouldn't just leave the body and without the body have the funeral.
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Post by KeBen Owens on Jul 18, 2008 23:48:52 GMT -5
This movie was ing amazing. Ledger, God rest his soul, was the most phenominal Joker of all time. That damn guy that took part in his "Magic Trick" got OWNED. I didn't like Gyhllenhal's performance, she was too "spunky" for my taste. Bale was excellent as Batman once again, and Eckhart's portyal of Dent/ Two-Face was perfect. That movie pulled at every bit of your psyche. I must see it again.
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Post by Mr. McCluer on Jul 19, 2008 0:02:50 GMT -5
Ledger best joker ever no one could ever top that. dude joker asking for the phone call amaizng, and the part where he's in the intirigation room Batman slammed his head aha so great. makes the pencil disappear lol grand. best movie of all time.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2008 0:13:59 GMT -5
- Uhhhhhh, was Batman even in the movie? Seriously, I thought the point of restarting the series was to make it about Batman again. Bale had hardly any time on screen as Batman and even less as Bruce Wayne. There was no emotional connection to him and if there was, it was just left over from Begins. The "Batman" that The Joker killed almost got as much screen time as the real Batman. - Plot holes. As someone pointed out on IMDB....so after he throw Rachel out the window, and Dent is still hiding, the Joker just quietly leaves the party, so that Batman and Rachel can have their scene in the street? WTF? He just gave up his search for Dent and decided to go home and catch some Golden Girls reruns? Batman was in there a good amount of time, I never felt his appearances were limited. After that whole party scene I said to myself "Uh, isn't Joker still up there?", they definitely should have had some sort of scene of Joker leaving or whatever.
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Post by James Hetfield on Jul 19, 2008 0:17:51 GMT -5
Someone needs to expain to me how Harvey got kidnapped if the Commissioner caught Joker right when they saved Dent.
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Post by KeBen Owens on Jul 19, 2008 0:20:52 GMT -5
Someone needs to expain to me how Harvey got kidnapped if the Commissioner caught Joker right when they saved Dent. My guess is there was a period of time that elapsed between incarcerating the Joker and Dent going back home.-BEN
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