PdW2kX
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Post by PdW2kX on Jul 23, 2008 15:59:09 GMT -5
Pretty interesting quote, credit goes here. “That sounds great … I think GSP is an incredible fighter. But I think GSP needs to prove himself. He still hasn’t had a successful title defense [at 170 pounds]. I don’t really feel that he deserves (a fight against Anderson Silva fight) yet. Go defend your title a few times and then we’ll talk.”
– Ed Soares, the manager and translator for UFC Middleweight Champion Anderson Silva, tells Pro MMA Radio that UFC Welterweight Champion Georges St. Pierre still has a little work to do before locking horns with the Brazilian anytime soon. “Rush” has often talked about taking on new challenges in the middleweight division as long as he clears out his 170-pound class first and no friend of his (Patrick Cote included) is a current champion.Without sounding too much of a rampant Silva fanboy (guilty as charged, though), I agree that GSP needs at least a few good title defenses before he takes on Anderson. I'm not saying GSP isn't "worthy", I just think that he needs to spend time beating people in his own division for his own title before moving up or down a weight class. GSP/Silva would be a very epic fight and a great "dream match", but I personally wouldn't like it to happen until GSP gets some defenses on his belt in. I don't think he has to "prove himself" or anything, but I do think that a champion should first concentrate on being king of his division before trying to dethrone the king of another division. |
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Post by ajstyles888 on Jul 23, 2008 16:05:31 GMT -5
I agree, i would like to see GSP defend his title a couple more times before he get's a crack at Silva.
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Post by lonedog on Jul 23, 2008 16:12:12 GMT -5
As much as I like GSP he's too small to be fighting Silva.The next super fight should be GSP and Penn.
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Post by Patrick Bateman (original) on Jul 23, 2008 16:28:14 GMT -5
I agree Georges is to small for Silva. Also he has had a tough couple of fights (except the loss the Serra who I think is rubbish) by beating the then greatest welterweight of all time in Matt Hughes. Two times very dominatly. But I agree if he is going to go up and against Silva. Then he needs to dominate his own division before he starts bouncing around.
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Post by DWright on Jul 23, 2008 16:28:46 GMT -5
As much as I like GSP he's too small to be fighting Silva.The next super fight should be GSP and Penn. I don't think he's too small at all. Rush walks around at around 210-215. |
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Post by ajstyles888 on Jul 23, 2008 17:05:21 GMT -5
I agree with Churchy, the only '' big '' difference is Silva has about a 4 inch height advantage.
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Post by Kliquid on Jul 23, 2008 18:21:02 GMT -5
With all due respect to Anderson Silva, the welterweight division is far more stacked than the middleweight division, so having "successful defenses" means beating people better than Travis Lutter.
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Post by lonedog on Jul 23, 2008 21:11:04 GMT -5
As much as I like GSP he's too small to be fighting Silva.The next super fight should be GSP and Penn. I don't think he's too small at all. Rush walks around at around 210-215. For Silva he's too small,for most other middleweights I'd say no because his talent is far ahead of the rest of the middleweights so size wouldn't matter but for Silva he is too small. Silva is a huge middleweight,his frame,his reach and height compared to GSP is a sizable difference. Gsp at 215?  ? GSP keeps in great shape all the time and never gets that heavy,190,200 at the most. |
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Post by DWright on Jul 23, 2008 21:19:12 GMT -5
I don't think he's too small at all. Rush walks around at around 210-215. For Silva he's too small,for most other middleweights I'd say no because his talent is far ahead of the rest of the middleweights so size wouldn't matter but for Silva he is too small. Silva is a huge middleweight,his frame,his reach and height compared to GSP is a sizable difference. Gsp at 215? ? GSP keeps in great shape all the time and never gets that heavy,190,200 at the most. It's not a matter of keeping in shape, it's water weight to begin with. It's been said many times that St. Pierre walks at about 215. Look at Jon Fitch, I'm sure you could even ask Bateman. He's in great shape, and from what I've heard, he walks at around 220-230. |
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Post by lonedog on Jul 23, 2008 21:55:28 GMT -5
For Silva he's too small,for most other middleweights I'd say no because his talent is far ahead of the rest of the middleweights so size wouldn't matter but for Silva he is too small. Silva is a huge middleweight,his frame,his reach and height compared to GSP is a sizable difference. Gsp at 215? ? GSP keeps in great shape all the time and never gets that heavy,190,200 at the most. It's not a matter of keeping in shape, it's water weight to begin with. It's been said many times that St. Pierre walks at about 215. Look at Jon Fitch, I'm sure you could even ask Bateman. He's in great shape, and from what I've heard, he walks at around 220-230. Most fighters walk around at no more than 30lbs over each fighters weight limit. During there preparation the majority of the weight is dropped, the last week before weigh-ins they are usually about 10lbs over which is water weight and dropped the last two days before the weight-in date. Anything over fifteen pounds the week of is looking for kidney failure,and even some boxing sanctions monitor this due to the risks. Jon Fitch is a huge welterweight but I doubt he cuts 60lbs. |
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Post by DWright on Jul 23, 2008 22:07:16 GMT -5
It's not a matter of keeping in shape, it's water weight to begin with. It's been said many times that St. Pierre walks at about 215. Look at Jon Fitch, I'm sure you could even ask Bateman. He's in great shape, and from what I've heard, he walks at around 220-230. Most fighters walk around at no more than 30lbs over each fighters weight limit. During there preparation the majority of the weight is dropped, the last week before weigh-ins they are usually about 10lbs over which is water weight and dropped the last two days before the weight-in date. Anything over fifteen pounds the week of is looking for kidney failure,and even some boxing sanctions monitor this due to the risks. Jon Fitch is a huge welterweight but I doubt he cuts 60lbs. It's been said on several occasions (and I even want to say I read it in a FIGHT! interview with St. Pierre a few months back) that he walks at 210. And I hope Patrick Bateman (he trains with AKA/Fitch) gets on soon, because I'm 90% sure they said Fitch often walks anywhere from 215-230. GSP is a HUGE WW. He's basically a WW in a MW body. |
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Post by Fury on Jul 24, 2008 1:53:39 GMT -5
I honestly would love to see this fight and if Silva thinks it's time and GSP beats Fitch & BJ Penn then I'd love to see this fight and think GSP would win it.
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Post by moogie101 on Jul 24, 2008 2:51:23 GMT -5
Anderson vs. GSP doesn't interest me, I think Silva will have so much reach & weight advantage that he'll destrot GSP, much rather see GSP stay in his division 7 get some title defences together plus the big rematch with BJ
Although GSP hasn't had much luck in stringing together title defences i think looking at his UFC record laughs at the thought of GSP having to prove himself though
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Post by Patrick Bateman (original) on Jul 24, 2008 3:19:54 GMT -5
Most fighters walk around at no more than 30lbs over each fighters weight limit. During there preparation the majority of the weight is dropped, the last week before weigh-ins they are usually about 10lbs over which is water weight and dropped the last two days before the weight-in date. Anything over fifteen pounds the week of is looking for kidney failure,and even some boxing sanctions monitor this due to the risks. Jon Fitch is a huge welterweight but I doubt he cuts 60lbs. It's been said on several occasions (and I even want to say I read it in a FIGHT! interview with St. Pierre a few months back) that he walks at 210. And I hope Patrick Bateman (he trains with AKA/Fitch) gets on soon, because I'm 90% sure they said Fitch often walks anywhere from 215-230. GSP is a HUGE WW. He's basically a WW in a MW body. A month after a fight Jon walks around at 225. You are correct brother. When he signs for a new fight he starts training hard. But yes if you see Jon for about 5-6 months of the year he weighs 225. He cuts massive amounts of weight. The only reason he doesn't fight at a bigger class is because his wrestling training in cutting weight. Kos and Fitch are the best at cutting weight in the world when they need to ( Kos walks around at about 210) Swick tried their weight cutting and lost to much. That is how effective their weight cutting is. |
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