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Post by The Madness on Nov 12, 2008 10:14:53 GMT -5
It looks like she might have done some shading in the flesh tones (a more reddish-brown hue). I noticed she did this on some of her other painted heads, and since Jakks doesn't use that much detail in their paint apps, I think that might be what's throwing it off.
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Post by Greensborohill on Nov 12, 2008 11:25:09 GMT -5
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Post by The Warsman on Nov 12, 2008 12:41:15 GMT -5
It looks like she might have done some shading in the flesh tones (a more reddish-brown hue). I noticed she did this on some of her other painted heads, and since Jakks doesn't use that much detail in their paint apps, I think that might be what's throwing it off. On the Jakks figure or the 12 inch head someone else posted? If you're talking about the single headshot, then yes- that's how she paints the 12 inch heads. If you're referring to the head on the Jakks body I posted- I'm not seeing any painted shading, only shadow. Wars
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Post by plasticsuperstar on Nov 12, 2008 17:31:12 GMT -5
Looks like she painted the skintone She told me she could cast it in flesh tone plastic which she could match to a sample (Martel body) This is what I was trying to ask you Wars, I wouldn't have got a painted one if I'd known we were getting painted skin tones.
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Post by Pope Kiril I on Nov 12, 2008 20:27:57 GMT -5
I say that is quite good, I do concur the Skin tone does not match to the Martel body but used as an example of fit it does work well
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Post by The Warsman on Nov 12, 2008 23:08:14 GMT -5
Looks like she painted the skintone She told me she could cast it in flesh tone plastic which she could match to a sample (Martel body) This is what I was trying to ask you Wars, I wouldn't have got a painted one if I'd known we were getting painted skin tones. How many did you order and what kind? I have several people wanting to buy one via PM, and they can buy yours. Let me know. Wars PS- *I* never said she'd cast in skintone. If you were messaging her privately, then I now know who she meant...
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Post by The Warsman on Nov 12, 2008 23:17:49 GMT -5
To be honest the color looks way off to me. I understand how the flash works, but I think this is more than just flash discrepancy. You need to ask her and get a real honest to god answer from her what it looks like in person. Because as of now it looks like he just spray tans on his face and not his body. Other than the skintone I love it, but I think the tones are way off and need to be fixed. I just don't think the answer is to wait until they are in hand to decide if it is something we can live with, because at that point it will be too late, we will have no choice but to deal with it. I'm sorry, but I disagree... "Way off?" Do you need to adjust your monitor? Do I? An exact match? Probably not. Hell, I have yet to see a custom painted head match 100% with a Jakks non-painted body in all of the customs section of which I've frequented for about 6 years. But all I can tell you, I do not see it as "way off." I just don't. I have no reason to blow smoke up her rear, or yours, just telling you like I see it. Wars
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Post by The Madness on Nov 13, 2008 0:04:57 GMT -5
It looks like she might have done some shading in the flesh tones (a more reddish-brown hue). I noticed she did this on some of her other painted heads, and since Jakks doesn't use that much detail in their paint apps, I think that might be what's throwing it off. On the Jakks figure or the 12 inch head someone else posted? If you're talking about the single headshot, then yes- that's how she paints the 12 inch heads. If you're referring to the head on the Jakks body I posted- I'm not seeing any painted shading, only shadow. Wars It looks like the'yre both painted that way, but it's pretty hard to tell from that particular photo. I have to say, though, comparing the brightest areas where the light hits the face and the Martel body, they seem to be pretty darn close.
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Post by infinit994 on Nov 13, 2008 2:44:17 GMT -5
now this is how the head should fit on the body and what do you guys think? do you agree i think this look like an actuals Jakks head now before it kind of looked like a ttl or hasbro head on ra body because it was to high on the neck and that would look funny since wars said he sent her the bigger sized jakks heads
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Post by infinit994 on Nov 13, 2008 3:32:00 GMT -5
now here is the 2 versions side by side to show the difference lowering the head makes and I think it looks better lower a little
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Post by infinit994 on Nov 13, 2008 3:57:28 GMT -5
now here the comparison to a jakks figure notice the length of neck sort of matches
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Post by plasticsuperstar on Nov 13, 2008 12:11:20 GMT -5
Looks like she painted the skintone She told me she could cast it in flesh tone plastic which she could match to a sample (Martel body) This is what I was trying to ask you Wars, I wouldn't have got a painted one if I'd known we were getting painted skin tones. How many did you order and what kind? I have several people wanting to buy one via PM, and they can buy yours. Let me know. Wars PS- *I* never said she'd cast in skintone. If you were messaging her privately, then I now know who she meant... You know I was already talking to her before I first PMd you and we started this, I NEVER spoke to her since you took charge and I told you I wouldn't, I have been totally honest with you all the way. When you made the original thread you were going to do it differently and paint them yourself but then I said she can do 30 for $15 each and she can cast in skintone plastic which she can match to a sample (she clearly told me that several times and said unpainted ones would be skintone). I remember you saying that the skintones on her site didn't look dark enough so you knew what I meant, then I PMd you to ask you if we were getting the skintone painted or not and you never gave me an answer.
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Post by samsson on Nov 13, 2008 12:52:18 GMT -5
I like it with the head being lowered a bit more ;D
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Post by T-Phunk on Nov 13, 2008 16:09:13 GMT -5
To be honest the color looks way off to me. I understand how the flash works, but I think this is more than just flash discrepancy. You need to ask her and get a real honest to god answer from her what it looks like in person. Because as of now it looks like he just spray tans on his face and not his body. Other than the skintone I love it, but I think the tones are way off and need to be fixed. I just don't think the answer is to wait until they are in hand to decide if it is something we can live with, because at that point it will be too late, we will have no choice but to deal with it. I'm sorry, but I disagree... "Way off?" Do you need to adjust your monitor? Do I? An exact match? Probably not. Hell, I have yet to see a custom painted head match 100% with a Jakks non-painted body in all of the customs section of which I've frequented for about 6 years. But all I can tell you, I do not see it as "way off." I just don't. I have no reason to blow smoke up her rear, or yours, just telling you like I see it. Wars With all do respect you definitely have to adjust your monitor then. The face is orange. The skin on the body is not. Comparing it to 13-year-old customizers on that board is unfair. I got in on this deal because it was being done by a professional. If Famous J, Romealmighty, RayFerraro, Chinese Chicken, YOU and many others can get skin tones right, it is more than fair that I expect her to. I love the sculpt of the hair the detail of the paint everything but the skin tone and as the spokesperson you need to let her know our complaint about this. I have trusted you to handle this every step of the way in this and have been very vocal in doing so. You know as well as I do that if she plans on hand painting every head she can mix that color better. Please let her know that I would we need the skintone to match better.
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Post by LLD on Nov 13, 2008 16:50:59 GMT -5
Here's my opinion on this matter - From the pics, the skin tone of the face and torso doesn't match. Now there may be a lot of reasons for that: - camera shots or the flash messing it up ( heck, I've got purple clothes turning out to be blue in some pics I took ) - pics or colors "turning" out different since Ada and Jakks are not actually using the SAME MATERIAL to make the custom head and body, respectively ( therefore different results ) - or simple because the paint job just doesn't match. - or Ada just gave Macho too much blush-on In my opinion, the best way to settle this is to politely ask Ada to ship the proto first via FedEx ( or at least the safest and fastest way ). That way you'd have the actual proto in someone's hands to make actual comparisons and take actual & updated pics. Like I said, color difference may be due to many factors. You might as well cross out these factors first before asking Ada to produce "commercially". And since Ada's painting these heads manually one-by-one, changes could be made if they're needed. And I don't think it would be a big deal to Ada, a professional person, to make these changes if they're proven necessary. I don't know if shipping the proto's possible but it's a safe option.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Nov 13, 2008 17:00:05 GMT -5
Here's my opinion on this matter - From the pics, the skin tone of the face and torso doesn't match. Now there may be a lot of reasons for that: - camera shots or the flash messing it up ( heck, I've got purple clothes turning out to be blue in some pics I took ) - pics or colors "turning" out different since Ada and Jakks are not actually using the SAME MATERIAL to make the custom head and body, respectively ( therefore different results ) - or simple because the paint job just doesn't match. - or Ada just gave Macho too much blush-on In my opinion, the best way to settle this is to politely ask Ada to ship the proto first via FedEx ( or at least the safest and fastest way ). That way you'd have the actual proto in someone's hands to make actual comparisons and take actual & updated pics. Like I said, color difference may be due to many factors. You might as well cross out these factors first before asking Ada to produce "commercially". And since Ada's painting these heads manually one-by-one, changes could be made if they're needed. And I don't think it would be a big deal to Ada, a professional person, to make these changes if they're proven necessary. I don't know if shipping the proto's possible but it's a safe option. Its not the flash. The paint just doesnt match the skin tone.
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Post by The Watcher on Nov 13, 2008 17:51:44 GMT -5
Here's my opinion on this matter - From the pics, the skin tone of the face and torso doesn't match. Now there may be a lot of reasons for that: - camera shots or the flash messing it up ( heck, I've got purple clothes turning out to be blue in some pics I took ) - pics or colors "turning" out different since Ada and Jakks are not actually using the SAME MATERIAL to make the custom head and body, respectively ( therefore different results ) - or simple because the paint job just doesn't match. - or Ada just gave Macho too much blush-on In my opinion, the best way to settle this is to politely ask Ada to ship the proto first via FedEx ( or at least the safest and fastest way ). That way you'd have the actual proto in someone's hands to make actual comparisons and take actual & updated pics. Like I said, color difference may be due to many factors. You might as well cross out these factors first before asking Ada to produce "commercially". And since Ada's painting these heads manually one-by-one, changes could be made if they're needed. And I don't think it would be a big deal to Ada, a professional person, to make these changes if they're proven necessary. I don't know if shipping the proto's possible but it's a safe option. Its not the flash. The paint just doesnt match the skin tone. I totally agree, from the pics Ive seen the two parts are a tad different if Ada is painting these individually then I see no problem for this to be rectofied, her painting skills are fantastic but it really does need to be a shade lighter.
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Post by The Warsman on Nov 13, 2008 18:12:58 GMT -5
I sent her this message: As for this: The only time I've seen the great customizers "get it right" is when they paint the heads along with the rest of the bodies also, known as a "full body paint." I have yet to see anyone paint a Jakks head and slap in on an unpainted body and not have a dozen snarky remarks about how the skintones don't match. Trust me, I speak for my own work as well! As close as we get it, there's always a crowd ready to focus on the fact it might be a shade lighter or darker. I'll share her response when I get it... Wars
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Post by The Warsman on Nov 13, 2008 18:24:00 GMT -5
her response and my reply:
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Post by plasticsuperstar on Nov 13, 2008 18:25:16 GMT -5
It does look to me like she might have done a detailed skintone like her other heads, that might be what's making it look dark.
I also agree that the neck is still too long but I'm assuming it won't have any sort of joint so I should be able to adjust that easy enough.
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