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Post by 51 on Nov 13, 2008 18:27:24 GMT -5
I am not a buyer, although I will prob get one off ebay soon, but to me the painted eyes do not look bulging enough, what does everyone else think?
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Post by Smash Ventura on Nov 13, 2008 21:38:32 GMT -5
i figured this might happen as skin shades can be a pain for anybody to match...thats why i bought a unpainted head... ada has been very kind in the few times i have e-mailed her (as i do with anyone i am buying off of from ebay)... i am certain i wont nail the skin shade perfect but im going to do my best... im just thankful that it will be a vast improvement over the head im using now:)
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Post by samsson on Nov 13, 2008 22:52:48 GMT -5
So,just so I have it right? most if not all feel the skin tone should be lighter/less detailed in the paint application? AND the head should be able to sit a bit lower on the body......IF THESE TWO THINGS I REPEAT THESE TWO THINGS are taken care of everyone/majority will be HAPPY RIGHT !!!!!!
We can only bitch just so much,first Jakks will never make him so beggars can't be choosers and if Jakks did make him HOW F*CKED UP WOULD HE BE!!!!!
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Post by T-Phunk on Nov 14, 2008 1:06:39 GMT -5
So,just so I have it right? most if not all feel the skin tone should be lighter/less detailed in the paint application? AND the head should be able to sit a bit lower on the body......IF THESE TWO THINGS I REPEAT THESE TWO THINGS are taken care of everyone/majority will be HAPPY RIGHT !!!!!! We can only bitch just so much,first Jakks will never make him so beggars can't be choosers and if Jakks did make him HOW F*CKED UP WOULD HE BE!!!!! The only point of contention for me is the orange face. I think the color it is now matches the photos, but not the reference body. Where the head sits on the neck, bothers me not. If it gets lowered a bit, it still won't bother me. I just want the head to look like it belongs on the body color wise. I've said my peace now will sit back, cross my fingers, and hope for a resolution.
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Post by Smash Ventura on Nov 14, 2008 4:55:06 GMT -5
im cool with where the head is...the skin im doing myself so that will be hopefully a close effort..as far as if jakks were to make him how messed up it would be? oh good lord! lol jakks is like any other company..hit or miss...fortunetly i am able to fix there misses... i have kept my nose out of the mattel debate but i must say that after a year gose by with them at the helm, i shudder to think of the laundry list of things they will mess up.... i grew up with the original masters of the universe line and the craptastic animay crap they passed off as the new he mans made me ill...i vowed to curse jeremy padawers name for that mess... then he moved to jakks and converted the wwe line from the r3s...what the heck was that?! to the new measuring stick the ra mold... and of course the classic line which for its faults, and there has been some big ones, has made some over all great strides.... i for one am happy with the head where it sits...the skin issue which i do agree is an issue can be fixed for anyone who is good with a brush and can by a few bottles of paint and non glossy varnish
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Post by plasticsuperstar on Nov 14, 2008 7:02:56 GMT -5
If she hasn't painted them all yet then why can't I have one without painted skin like I thought I was buying? I only wanted her to paint the eyes really as she does them better than me, I don't want any money back so surely she'd be happy to do less work for the same money?
Look at the one that's unpainted, it looks alot closer in tone to the Martel body. If the beard/hair and features were painted on that it would look awesome I reckon. I'd be very happy with that but I can't imagine the painted one ever looking like a CS head.
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Post by famousj on Nov 14, 2008 9:27:29 GMT -5
I like it. Thanks again for this Warsman, & give ADA my regards, as I think she did a wonderful job. Anybody up for a Macho Man showcase, once we all get our Savage heads? Maybe we can get nydream or somebody to set it up for us on the Customs board.
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Post by Nick Maniwa on Nov 14, 2008 10:40:49 GMT -5
An exact match? Probably not. Hell, I have yet to see a custom painted head match 100% with a Jakks non-painted body in all of the customs section of which I've frequented for about 6 years. Wars Is this what you mean? Looks pretty close to me. It was originally a Goldust head.
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Post by The Warsman on Nov 14, 2008 12:00:57 GMT -5
If she hasn't painted them all yet then why can't I have one without painted skin like I thought I was buying? I only wanted her to paint the eyes really as she does them better than me, I don't want any money back so surely she'd be happy to do less work for the same money? Look at the one that's unpainted, it looks alot closer in tone to the Martel body. If the beard/hair and features were painted on that it would look awesome I reckon. I'd be very happy with that but I can't imagine the painted one ever looking like a CS head. That was a sample, she hadn't begun painting all the orders. Her nonchalant answer seemed like she could fix it... or ignore the request, LOl... ;D Hopefully it was just confidence that she will match it better next time. She will not go forward until we give her the go ahead, and I will not give it to her until we are all (almost) on the same page. Just because I may not agree about the skintone, I realize I may not be right, and it's NOT all about me. So while it might take a bit longer, I want this to turn out right for all of us. Later gators, Wars
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Post by The Warsman on Nov 14, 2008 12:02:29 GMT -5
An exact match? Probably not. Hell, I have yet to see a custom painted head match 100% with a Jakks non-painted body in all of the customs section of which I've frequented for about 6 years. Wars Is this what you mean? Looks pretty close to me. It was originally a Goldust head. Please post it using imageshack.us, everything else gets filtered here at work, lol. I'd like to see it. And with this crowd, "pretty close" usually doesn't cut it in my experience ;D Wars
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Post by The Madness on Nov 14, 2008 15:02:54 GMT -5
This is the Animal I made a while back to match CS9 Hawk. It's still a little rough around the eys, which are also hand painted, so I might go back and paint the area around the eyes as yellow makeup. This whole head has a painted skintone, and I don't think it looks too far off. I've found that when mixing a Jakks skin color, some people tend to mix in too much red or pink paint and get the color a little too pinkish. IMO, it's best to go heavier on the browns, yellows, and whites - and you can see here how that turns out and make of it what you will.
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Post by plasticsuperstar on Nov 14, 2008 16:45:35 GMT -5
^That Animal looks spot on, the one above is pretty much perfect too even though it's a bit lumpy. Even though I despise painted skintones I could live with it if it was like that.
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Post by The Madness on Nov 14, 2008 17:08:58 GMT -5
^That Animal looks spot on, the one above is pretty much perfect too even though it's a bit lumpy. Even though I despise painted skintones I could live with it if it was like that. Thanks for the kind words. Mixing a skintone definitely takes a lot of trial and error, and thankfully, I mixed a whole bottle when I did this one. I've found that it's much easier to start with a bottle of pre-mixed flesh tone and adjust it from there. That way, the hardest part is already done, and you're sure to have plenty left over.
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Post by The Warsman on Nov 14, 2008 18:17:21 GMT -5
Both painted heads look great IMO, but trust me, on this board, there's always a crowd ready to chime in about how the skintone doesn't match.
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Post by T-Phunk on Nov 14, 2008 19:09:23 GMT -5
Both painted heads look great IMO, but trust me, on this board, there's always a crowd ready to chime in about how the skintone doesn't match. Wars Absolutely, when they don't match people do chime in. Like we are all doing about the Savage head. ;D
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Post by The Warsman on Nov 15, 2008 10:12:04 GMT -5
Both painted heads look great IMO, but trust me, on this board, there's always a crowd ready to chime in about how the skintone doesn't match. Wars Absolutely, when they don't match people do chime in. Like we are all doing about the Savage head. ;D Perhaps. But I'm saying this crowd (and the customs board) has ZERO room for error. NONE. ZIP. ZILCH. NADA. NEIN. It has to be PERFECT or they ONLY focus on the one small part that isn't PERFECT and throw out the rest of the job that might be great (kind of like here ;D) And BTW, I'd never seen those 2 paintjobs, and I'd call them perfect. I also know whenever I see something I think is 'perfect,' there's always responses on how the skintones don't match. Find me the thread these two gems were posted in, and I'd bet you'll find some there. So I've learned to take those comments with an enormous grain of salt. That's my $0.02. I'm not bothered by any of this talk, in fact it's great to open up some discussion on it. I relayed the message to Ada, and we'll see what she comes up with next. In case you don't read the customs discussion thread, here are some other things I've been working on: Killer Khan! I made some Macho Man style suits in this style that I need to finish up. These are for my Mego collection, but the process is the same. I thought this Tornado head looked similiar in size next to the Brutus and Perfect heads, but on the body it looks too big, so I let it reduce overnight and tried again. These pictures show my first casting of the bigger head. The hair can be replaced with some Jakks hair that looks better in the back.
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Post by Smash Ventura on Nov 15, 2008 10:48:23 GMT -5
wow!!!!!!!!! dude, id love to get my hands on that kerry head...(since it wouldnt involve me almost cutting my finger off...lol) hey WVGuitar, what do suggest adding to a premade batch of skin tone to get that jakks tanned look?
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Post by fdamage: Elite Trader on Nov 15, 2008 11:00:45 GMT -5
holy crap!!!! megos!!!! the wrestling stuff was phenominal enough but i grew up with megos. i now need a cs macho man
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Post by whydraft2 on Nov 15, 2008 12:50:23 GMT -5
fantastic job!!!
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Post by The Madness on Nov 15, 2008 15:13:41 GMT -5
wow!!!!!!!!! dude, id love to get my hands on that kerry head...(since it wouldnt involve me almost cutting my finger off...lol) hey WVGuitar, what do suggest adding to a premade batch of skin tone to get that jakks tanned look? Like I said earlier, you'll probably have to add a little bit of brown, since Jakks' plastic seems to be a bit more tan than flesh tone paint. After you do that, it'll probably be a bit too dark, so you'll want to add some white, too. Figuring out how much of each is just trial and error. Also, depending on what skin tone you're trying to match, it may take a couple of drops of yellow. If you use any red or pink, do so very sparingly. It's easy to get the skin too pink, which a lot of people seem to do. Jakks' skin tone doesn't have too much of a pinkish hue to it, it's more of an almond color. Best of luck to you, because there really is no set formula to get it right. Let me know how yours turns out.
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