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Post by taserface on Sept 24, 2018 7:18:05 GMT -5
I love the show. But I think it is that they expect perfection from Mattel, all the while they think some of the old Jakks and Tovbiz and OSFTM figures are masterpieces. More times than not the worst Elites Mattel has made are far better than 99% of those figures
But I get it, it’s from their childhood so they love them
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Post by taserface on Sept 20, 2018 8:25:49 GMT -5
Damn that Nakamura could be the best Mattel figure EVER. Until it’s in hand and it’s as tall as Big Show, lol It really does look good though Will pick up him, Shelton & Dusty probably
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Post by taserface on Sept 17, 2018 21:10:18 GMT -5
I ordered four Captain Marvel figures from Amazon without knowing what they are. Plenty of time to cancel if needed, since they release on Jan 1. Amazon descriptions: 1. Marvel Cml 6In Legends AST 2. Marvel Cml 6In Legends 4 3. Marvel Cml 6 in Legends 7 4. Marvel Cml 6 in Legends 6 Pics of them are on Fwoosh today. And marvelousnews Look pretty good IMO
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Post by taserface on Sept 17, 2018 12:29:36 GMT -5
Already on clearance I guess they aren’t going to make it to the Christmas reset, due to being cancelled This big stores clearancing brand new things is crazy. Not technically clearancing but you see the $6 HOC at Target too Crazy. I’ll have a bunch of JJ Dillons and Finks, I guess if I see them for the $2 or $3 I saw the Paul Bearer BAF set for.
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Post by taserface on Sept 17, 2018 12:22:17 GMT -5
Awesome idea. If I knew of any I’d love to contribute lol
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Post by taserface on Sept 17, 2018 11:42:06 GMT -5
I did go to a Super Target this morning that has 2 pegs slotted for these Retros (almost 2 cases worth of figures I think?). Of course they only had 3 of Series 3. Saw an employee right in area, so I did the usual, can you scan this and see if any of the newer ones are in back She did and said there wasn’t, they only show 3 on hand
Then she said hold on, let me tell you when we have more coming in. I said ok thanks. Then she said we show none coming and none on backorder (or something to that effect)
So it may just be a situation like S2 was with Wal Mart. Target distribution doesn’t have many. Due to S3 hanging around so long, they got scared to pull the trigger on large quantities of S4, S5 & S6
So, (mattelfreak this is for you!) it IS Target distribution problem, but it’s going to be Mattel’s problem in the end.
If that theory was correct, not sure why GameStop would be having issues getting them in. It’s a damn mess, all I know
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Post by taserface on Sept 17, 2018 9:50:48 GMT -5
SteveHulk series 1 and 2 werent walmart exclusives, i believe Roman Reigns and Kevin Owens were, but the rest were readily available, having bought Cena, Warrior and i believe Taker in stores over here, i also bought Steve Austin and the Rock from tesco Maybe they are hoping sales will pick up, we are only on series 6 is it? That shows they arent as big a sales flop as flexforce or double attack whatever they were called lol They were Wal Mart exclusives in the states. Until WM didn’t order much S2, then I guess RSC, Ollie’s, Amazon, whoever got the leftovers Overseas always has different distribution. Even Canada different stores sell different exclusives than here
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Post by taserface on Sept 16, 2018 19:24:27 GMT -5
Hoping we get this series in Canada... Any Canadians that need this set (or any of these store exclusives) hit me up. We can work out a trade. Need some Star Wars Black Series that I guess are Canadian Exclusives. Zuckas Phasma w/ battle damage Trooper w/ damage
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Post by taserface on Sept 14, 2018 14:07:04 GMT -5
They said elite 63,64 pics coming soon This may be old news but it’s first I’ve heard of it Also if I heard them correctly, the ‘2019 Basics line’ will also feature the variant figure (I assume per wave, like the Elites?) Really enjoying listening to the show though. Keep up the good work
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Post by taserface on Sept 13, 2018 10:48:41 GMT -5
No, they don’t sign anyone themselves, because they still have to get the WWE’s approval. If the WWE didn’t sign someone to a Legends deal or doesn’t want someone to have a figure made then that wrestler isn’t getting a figure. So why would Mattel spend money on a contract that the wwe might never give an approval to make when they can just submit a list? Then the WWE will either approve it, sign them to a Legends contract or just tell Mattel no? This is it in a nutshell- they may or may not be allowed to sign deals with talent but they have decided not to do so because its counterproductive. WWE has clamped down on who Mattel can make a figure of by forcing them to submit lists for approval- only talent that WWE approves will get a figure made. As PJ mentioned, if they signed someone themselves (say Scott Steiner), WWE most likely would not give them approval to make a figure so what is the point of signing the guy to a deal if they cannot make a figure of him?! The thing that ticks me off is there might be some guys who we won't see made because they are not interested (for whatever reason) in signing a full legends deal BUT might be willing to sign a simple merchandise deal. It appears to me that with WWE its either a legends deal or nothing (except for the big name talent who's star power enables them to be able to negotiate their own separate deal). This is not arguing your point but just an additional statement. Most level headed people aren’t expecting them to go out and sign Scott Steiner, Sunny, Chyna, Snuka, Enzo, etc (people who are obviously on the poop list). We (or at least I am) are talking about guys that WWE doesn’t have any issue with. RNR Express, Martel, Valentine, Bischoff, Freebirds, etc And really. Are we supposed to think they don’t have a open line of communication with WWE? Meaning “If we sign so and so he’s ok to make an action figure of right? (barring an extreme event happening)”. It’s a yes or no answer, so no they wouldn’t be taking a chance on signing and not getting approval
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Post by taserface on Sept 13, 2018 9:14:55 GMT -5
Again. You think WWE has a problem with Mattel making a Valentine figure, or Martel, Mysterio or whoever. But the same company, WWE, approves people to play with that character under a WWE branded video game? That logic makes no sense 2K pays for talant, Mattel does not. That’s why I say chooses not to, rather than they ‘can’t’ Valentine is a top want of mine, but that said...if you think the WWE has no issues with Valentine getting a figure then why don’t they sign him to a Legends deal? If the WWE isn’t willing to sign him why would Mattel? Also if Mattel signs him that contract would probably have to be incorporated into the budget of whatever wave that figure would be in. So that means every other figure in the wave would suffer to fit the budget. Idk, but maybe WWE says we signed Boogeyman, Berzerker, etc, etc basically for you, Valentine isn’t worth it. You want him, you pay for him I don’t pretend to know the inner workings, but when it’s right in front of your face (with 2K using guys Mattel ‘can’t’) that part is obvious. Mattel won’t pay up, for anything WWE won’t buy for them
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Post by taserface on Sept 13, 2018 8:25:23 GMT -5
Thank you. Get so tired of hearing Mattel can’t do this, can’t sign so and so. They CHOOSE not to No, they don’t sign anyone themselves, because they still have to get the WWE’s approval. If the WWE didn’t sign someone to a Legends deal or doesn’t want someone to have a figure made then that wrestler isn’t getting a figure. So why would Mattel spend money on a contract that the wwe might never give an approval to make when they can just submit a list? Then the WWE will either approve it, sign them to a Legends contract or just tell Mattel no? Again. You think WWE has a problem with Mattel making a Valentine figure, or Martel, Mysterio or whoever. But the same company, WWE, approves people to play with that character under a WWE branded video game? That logic makes no sense 2K pays for talant, Mattel does not. That’s why I say chooses not to, rather than they ‘can’t’
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Post by taserface on Sept 13, 2018 6:43:36 GMT -5
You sound moronic saying the WWE wouldn’t give them permission to make a figure (if they choose to pay the talant outside of a Legends deal). But in the same breath the allow 2K to sign them and use them for the game and have no problem with that? It’s moronic that you answer every post across the whole board like you’re Bills burner account, but you can’t see the obvious simple thing we are saying. Mattel chooses not to pay extra for unsigned talant, 2K does. That makes them cheap (regarding that subject, not running a damn factory, production or whatever you were talking about) Lol do i? The proof, as they say, is in the pudding. They dont make them, the head designer has said, if they arent under a deal, they dont get a figure, its obvious, if Mattel could make who they wanted, they would. There is some serious ignorance going on on this forum, or outright trolling. How do you know they choose to not pay extra for unsigned talent? Who told you this and why? Are you privvy to the deal between Mattel and WWE? If they dont make a figure of an unsigned character, there has to be a reason, and it stands to reason that they are not permitted to, Bill also said he gives a list of those he wants to do to WWE for approval, come on, its not difficult As I said in another convo somewhere. It has been said that they aren’t signing outside Legends anymore, because Mattel changed their business model or how they go about it. Maybe somewhere around the time they signed Bruno themselves, then I guess they saw that as wasted money, because he signed a Legends deal Or they gained the rights somehow, and paid him for nothing is how it came accross. So if you want evidence look at Bills old comments, I believe it was one of the few he’s commented on in the Mattel Suggestion Board. IIRC
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Post by taserface on Sept 13, 2018 6:11:16 GMT -5
And they would, if it didnt cost them to make other talants outside of Legends deals. But they take the cheap way out and thus, get repeat character after repeat character Lol you think its cheap to produce action figures these days? The amount of safety tests needed and the cost involved with safety would make the mind boggle. They release figures of the same character to make money, and because they sell fast, but also so those whiney collectors can have their obscure characters, without the multiple Cena and Reigns etc the line would be extremely limited. To think that Mattel can just go off and make figures of whoever they like, without WWE permission is bordering on moronic You sound moronic saying the WWE wouldn’t give them permission to make a figure (if they choose to pay the talant outside of a Legends deal). But in the same breath the allow 2K to sign them and use them for the game and have no problem with that? It’s moronic that you answer every post across the whole board like you’re Bills burner account, but you can’t see the obvious simple thing we are saying. Mattel chooses not to pay extra for unsigned talant, 2K does. That makes them cheap (regarding that subject, not running a damn factory, production or whatever you were talking about)
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Post by taserface on Sept 13, 2018 5:58:49 GMT -5
It’s Mattel’s decision to only go through the Legends deals. They can sign talent directly to licensing deals if they want. They actively choose not to go about it in that fashion. That’s why we’ve had a bunch of awesome wrestlers who have been in the video games but don’t have figures yet, like Scott Steiner. Could you let me know where you've read the contract between Mattel and WWE I'd love to read it I've said it before, if Mattel were able to make anyone they wanted to, they would, they are a business, they want to make money And they would, if it didnt cost them to make other talants outside of Legends deals. But they take the cheap way out and thus, get repeat character after repeat character
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Post by taserface on Sept 13, 2018 5:54:51 GMT -5
Bill has went on record saying he submits a list and wwe will sometimes sign a guy just for Matte to make. I know Boogeyman was one.can not seems to be right It’s Mattel’s decision to only go through the Legends deals. They can sign talent directly to licensing deals if they want. They actively choose not to go about it in that fashion. That’s why we’ve had a bunch of awesome wrestlers who have been in the video games but don’t have figures yet, like Scott Steiner. Thank you. Get so tired of hearing Mattel can’t do this, can’t sign so and so. They CHOOSE not to
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Post by taserface on Sept 10, 2018 17:26:02 GMT -5
I have been thinking of this for the past few days and not sure if we can discuss this at all or if anyone even knows the correct answer but as a business student I can't stop thinking of it and wanted to bring it up. How much does ringside markup the price? Considering that when a elite goes up for about $25-$27 they will drop it within a month or two to be closer to $18-$22 and by the end of the year they are mostly $10. Are they still making any money by $10 and if not why do they order that much. I understand they just want to get rid of it at that point but even from the first drop from $18-$25 that's $7 difference. Do they really try to make as much money as they can with the pre-orders? Yes they do. It’s not a non profit organization
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Post by taserface on Sept 10, 2018 14:54:46 GMT -5
Saw BAF JJ Dillon Basics at the Wal Mart in Asheboro yesterday. Looked to be a whole case. Passed on them for now. Flair looks so damn cool though
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Post by taserface on Sept 8, 2018 9:44:01 GMT -5
I loved the part in Ep. 3 where they said If you’re in NXT, because Bill loves it, you will get a super detailed, decked out figure. When you move up to the main roster, not so much
That’s the damn truth
But seriously, this is great to listen to. Two high profile figure nerds, sharing the stories that we’ve all been through and having the income to buy what they want, when they want. Doesn’t get any better than that.
Keep up the great work guys
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Post by taserface on Sept 7, 2018 11:42:19 GMT -5
Really great thread. I'm surprised Bill didn't get fired for out of touch he was and still is with the Legends line. This comment in particular sums things up nicely: Road Warriors – Bill considered their NWA run their most iconic. Thus why the legends series was in Black/Silver. “They were always considered main eventers in NWA. They were rarely a main event act in WWF/E.” MattelDesignTeam, Thread: “I’m sorry, I have to rant. Legends related.” – 2/28/2012 I totally disagree with Bill on a lot of what he says, but I have to say I agree with this one They were the biggest, baddest tag team in the world prior to coming to WWF, based on this look. This is the look I think of when I think the Road Warriors. Not that I don’t love the Red Shoulder pads look too, but the original one is it for me And yes to OP, this is a great thread. Thanks for taking the time to do this. Great read
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