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Post by Edge618 on Nov 8, 2016 23:15:15 GMT -5
My bet is Zayn wins the IC, Foley gloats about the belt going to Raw, only for Bryan to reveal him and Steph made a deal before the match to trade Zayn for Miz.
Kalisto wins the CW belt. I feel like SD! is a better fit for the CW's, and SD! needs the roster depth. A lot easier to spread the CW's around the IC and mid card division once in a while than it is on Raw.
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Post by Edge618 on Nov 1, 2016 21:02:55 GMT -5
Why doesnt anyone complain when someone bumps off the padded turnbuckles. Its comical, Reigns haters will come up with almost anything just to bitch. No one complained when ALL 3 of the Shield wore them, and took kendo shots and chair shots to the back. Quite funny.
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Post by Edge618 on Nov 1, 2016 20:58:02 GMT -5
He has little to no control over how his character is presented on TV. Huge difference between him and the likes of Steph and HHH. Oh, he cant say "i dont like the direction of this character, im out". And dont pull the "he's prolly signed to a contract" bull, because if he really cared about the product and the direction of his character he couldve had some clauses for it. He's just getting a check, he doesnt care about the damn show. |
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Post by Edge618 on Oct 30, 2016 23:00:48 GMT -5
Look we can argue all day about every little detail of the fall of WCW, and what money WWE wouldve had to spend to get the top WCW guys. But the thread is about WWE's biggest missed oppurtunites. And not having the top WCW guys come over to to WWE after the Monday Night Wars and one of the biggest booms in pro wrestling history was a missed oppurtunity. No question. That's fine. Then blame the guys that decided they would wait a year or two to get into talks with Vince and missed the OPPORTUNITY instead of laying it all down as McMahon ego. He got a bunch of guys that were on the rise at the end of WCW, but the ones that would've made a difference in this particular storyline took a vacation. Haha no. I wont change my mind. I firmly believe it to be on Mcmahon. Cant blame talent for wanting to take a vacation and guaranteed money, when vince didnt want to invest in them. Vince has never cared for or respected WCW. If he did we wouldve had a lot better invasion, Goldberg wouldnt of flopped, and Sting wouldnt have lost his only Mania match. |
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Post by Edge618 on Oct 30, 2016 22:54:38 GMT -5
having multiple items and using different markers for each one is holding up the line though No no. It wasn't different markers per item. First off, I only had two different items. And second, I just wanted my items to be signed in gold instead of black. And do you know what holds the line up even more? Bitchy rude staff. Most fans are glad to keep it quick and casual. Its when rude staff rush people, thats what really holds up a line, and give an overall bad experience. Theres no reason staff should be rude and rushing during an advertised signing. And i absolutely cannot stand bitchy wrestlers. I get it when theyre at the airport or something, but at a signing, its time to shut up, swallow it and shake hands and kiss babies. |
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Post by Edge618 on Oct 27, 2016 2:16:14 GMT -5
Dont ever let anyone tell you, that you cant be a fan of something. Consume anything that makes you happy, its your life bro.
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Post by Edge618 on Oct 27, 2016 2:10:11 GMT -5
Some of you are selling the brutality of this match harder than WWE.
Lets be serious, its going to be a great in ring match, with a few safe tosses into the chainlink,and maybe a few weapons used. I dont know what anyones expecting them to do thats so dangerous. More dangerous than the average match but still going to be pretty tame.
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Post by Edge618 on Oct 27, 2016 0:00:24 GMT -5
So your saying spending $12 million wouldnt of been worth it? Vince already got a bargain on the company. They would of easily made the money back up with those guys in the Invasion. Vince wasnt exactly throwing out contracts. Raw won, and he was gloating. He didnt go after Sting, Goldberg, Flair, DDP, and Hogan. He shouldve been throwing money at them, or at least what they were worth. But nope. It definitely was an ego thing. If Vince wanted them, he'd of had them. Okay, I hope you missed part of my post. If it would have cost Vince only 12 million to acquire those 5 guys (Hogan wasn't on my original list because he had such a huge percentage of Nitro and PPV revenue on top of merch sales and other perks), then yes, he should have done so. But it would've cost him 12 million just to get them to talk about a contract. Then he would have to pay them more just to start. Remember, WCW ratings were not good by the end of their run. That's just one reason they went under. The damage done to some of these guys creatively was probably hard to justify, as you put it, paying them what they were worth. In their minds, they weren't going to accept any contract. They'd want AT LEAST Austin/Rock money. Goldberg and Hogan alone would probably expect to be paid more than that. It's been mentioned by several of the talent that chose to sit on their contracts that initial conversations took place, but they decided to sit out their AOL contracts and THEN they would talk to Vince. So again, how is that part ego? Because he wasn't willing to spend over half his reported net worth just to try and get some of these guys to the table? That's not just good business practice, that's common sense. Sting, Goldberg, Flair, DDP, and Hogan. Bill had just dangerously retired Bret Hart, and the rest were old or getting very old. And explain all this "money" WWE would make back? Ratings and ad revenue? The ratings had already peaked, and everyone knew that, so ad revenue would stay roughly the same. Merch sales? Action figure sales? They knew that would come eventually. Jakks got to make contracts with free agents back then. Hell, they had the video library. That would pay for itself several times over. Ticket sales? How do you sell more tickets to a sold out show? Raise ticket prices? I'm sure that would've gone over like a fart in church. People complain when gas prices jump 5 cents. Look we can argue all day about every little detail of the fall of WCW, and what money WWE wouldve had to spend to get the top WCW guys. But the thread is about WWE's biggest missed oppurtunites. And not having the top WCW guys come over to to WWE after the Monday Night Wars and one of the biggest booms in pro wrestling history was a missed oppurtunity. No question. |
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Post by Edge618 on Oct 26, 2016 0:31:22 GMT -5
The Invasion was a huge missed oppurtunity. Vince could of bought all the big time wrestlers contracts out, and offered new contracts. What he wanted, was for them to ditch their guaranteed contracts for new WWE contracts, which from a wrestlers stand point, is quite stupid. None of those guys signed because Vince had to big of an ego to buy them out, which probably wouldve made him more money than he'd of had to spend to get them. Okay, clearly I need some more explanation from some of you to understand this. Here is what I know: Vince bought WCW for around 2 million. The contracts of Sting, Hall, Nash, Goldberg, Luger and maybe Rey would've cost Vince over 10 MILLION. That's court documents from the Sonny Onoo lawsuit info right there. So he'd have to spend that just to get access to these guys. (That doesn't include Hogan by the way) Once he buys those contracts, he then has to negotiate new contracts and begin paying them MORE money. Do you believe Goldberg is going to come in and accept anything less than Austin money? And by the way, most of those at the top 'may' have had the option to simply refuse negotiations, take a couple year vacation and enjoy that guaranteed money. So please, explain to me how refusing to drop that kind of money is an ego thing and a missed opportunity. So your saying spending $12 million wouldnt of been worth it? Vince already got a bargain on the company. They would of easily made the money back up with those guys in the Invasion. Vince wasnt exactly throwing out contracts. Raw won, and he was gloating. He didnt go after Sting, Goldberg, Flair, DDP, and Hogan. He shouldve been throwing money at them, or at least what they were worth. But nope. It definitely was an ego thing. If Vince wanted them, he'd of had them. |
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Post by Edge618 on Oct 24, 2016 23:57:00 GMT -5
I still can't believe they are putting Sasha vs. Charlotte on as the main event. Just seems so forced to me. Reigns vs. Rusev should legit be the last match of the night. That feud has been going on since like late July. But that feud has nothing interesting about it. It's moronic to think Reigns is the babyface when he started crap with Rusev when he was just trying to celebrate his wedding. Awful booking, awful writing. Sasha vs Charlotte feud has been going on for about the same amount of time, and I can say that people are more invested in it because it actually makes sense. Reigns vs Rusev SHOULD NOT close the show just because they've had a long feud. Yeah Rusev was just celebrating his wedding. It wasnt like he was being a total heel rubbing it in everyones face, and calling everyone stupid Americans for months before that. Oh wait. But its Reigns, so it mustve been bad booking *rolls eyes* |
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Post by Edge618 on Oct 24, 2016 21:57:31 GMT -5
Show's how out of touch WWE is right now. Did they really think Goldberg would get a good reaction from Brock's home town, after parading Lesnar out in a shirt with the hometown name and team colors on it. What a freaking joke. And theyll blame this on Goldberg.
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Post by Edge618 on Oct 22, 2016 23:41:21 GMT -5
Might be a child size belt. Looks small I think the pic is decieving, the main plate is 12 inches tall from the very top tip to the bottom tip. I did a lot of research and measuring, and i can pin point it down to the $320, 2mm plate, adult replica chanpionship. After doing research on commemoratives, its def not commemorative. Mine has screws, not rivets, metal and not plastic. The measurements from the $320 wweshop version are exactly the same, plate width and length, leather strap width and length, exactly, to the millimeter. I think ive figured it put but what i was hoping for was someone to either say they have his belt and what they gave for it, or that it is or isnt a commemorative with some reasoning haha. I gave $160 for it at a Vintage Stock. Hidden gem. Im 99% certain its the one i think it is. |
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Post by Edge618 on Oct 22, 2016 22:56:25 GMT -5
Are the plates metal or plastic? Edit* Its a commerative for sure. Biggest give away is no screws on the nameplate for customization. Its actually metal, i took the plates off just now. And the name plate does come off, the screws are on the back. |
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Post by Edge618 on Oct 22, 2016 22:30:54 GMT -5
I got this for a steal today. I can return it if I need to. From all my research it seems to be a 2015 authentic replica belt. But my biggest fear is that its a commemorative and i got ripped off, but i can return if it thats the case. Was wondering if any of you belt collectors could help me out. Uploading more pics now.   |
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Post by Edge618 on Oct 20, 2016 1:11:29 GMT -5
I think those mentioning the Invasion angle are correct, but Vince's hands were tied on that one. The only way that story plays out right is if the big names are there from the start. And too many of them could sit for a couple years getting paid from AOL to do nothing. If Vince waited until then to start it, he'd be sitting that long on the contracts of the other talent, and the public loses interest anyways. Yeah, I'm not sure what people are suggesting when they talk about the invasion story being a missed opportunity, but if they mean signing Goldberg/Sting/Outsiders etc -- that wasn't a viable opportunity in the first place because it wasn't a contractual possibility, so it's a pointless suggestion. Same for waiting until all those guys became available to do it. Holding off the invasion until 02/03 would've been a long time without WCW and ECW in the industry, and a long time where those guys wouldn't have had steady jobs in wrestling. If they just mean stuff like Booker and DDP being booked stronger, I kinda get it. But at the same time, those guys came from a failed promotion and they weren't even the biggest names from it. So you can see why the WWF guys would've wanted to look superior. That big influx of new talent onto one roster meant your spot was more at risk than ever. If they mean things like Rock joining the Alliance instead of Stone Cold -- I mean, it may have worked better, but ultimately I don't see it being a huge difference. The Invasion was a huge missed oppurtunity. Vince could of bought all the big time wrestlers contracts out, and offered new contracts. What he wanted, was for them to ditch their guaranteed contracts for new WWE contracts, which from a wrestlers stand point, is quite stupid. None of those guys signed because Vince had to big of an ego to buy them out, which probably wouldve made him more money than he'd of had to spend to get them. |
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Post by Edge618 on Oct 19, 2016 4:03:14 GMT -5
Thanks for posting, im meeting Balor this weekend at Wizard World and was a little worried how his autograph would be with the sling. Looks like he still signs like usual  . |
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Post by Edge618 on Oct 18, 2016 19:12:23 GMT -5
Ryback got OVER once already. Of course this idea sounds insane when you imagine the Ryback we last saw. But imagine if he got back to his original popularity. You cant tell me Lesnar vs 2012 Ryback wouldnt sell, which is what Ryback was getting at. 😂 You think Ryback was pitching for six months off back when he'd just debuted? He said he's been pitchng him vs Lesnar for the last 3 years. Which would be 2013. Ryback was at the height of his popularity in October 2012, and he'd already been Ryback for almost a year at that point. |
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Post by Edge618 on Oct 18, 2016 16:12:40 GMT -5
He def needs work on the mic. Its a lot easier to teach a wrestler to be decent on the mic that it is to be an amazing in ring worker. Maybe he'll pick up some mic skills from his time in NXT to carry to the main roster
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Post by Edge618 on Oct 18, 2016 16:04:02 GMT -5
Ryback got OVER once already. Of course this idea sounds insane when you imagine the Ryback we last saw.
But imagine if he got back to his original popularity. You cant tell me Lesnar vs 2012 Ryback wouldnt sell, which is what Ryback was getting at.
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Post by Edge618 on Oct 18, 2016 4:34:18 GMT -5
Oh look! New day vs. Cesaro and Sheamus a week before the title match! Classic WWE I actually like it here. Have them work well together surprisingly, build their relationship. Get a clean upset win the week before sunday. Then theyll have actual momentum and give us a reason to think they could actually beat New Day. |
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