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Post by voicesinmyhead on Feb 18, 2021 7:20:19 GMT -5
You proved nothing here. Nowhere in that blurb does he say that he actually wants this white pants look. He said he wants the green look and Mattel is holding out. He’s basically implying that the white pants look is the next best thing but he doesn’t actually say he wants it. The original post says “preferably one in white tights.” So, I think that’s what he wants, or else this topic wouldn’t exist. He also specifically said he’s not that interested in the dragon attire or first release, so I’m not sure what else he would be after besides white. He’s just complaining about prices and that he (somehow) hasn’t been able to acquire a Steamboat figure in ten years. And he said in another post to me that he wants one in green and that Mattel is holding out. The white is simply just the next best thing because it is “another iconic look.” You gotta read the entire thread but I even asked what’s the point of this thread if this isn’t even the look he desires. Literally wasting our time. |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Feb 18, 2021 7:01:23 GMT -5
I said i wanted the flashback and the fan takeover figures. Not willing to pay $45+. On principle I cannot give to a scalper. I would rather bail out violent rioters than donate it to a scalper. I’ll sell you the flashback loose for $35. Display only condition. Let me know. That’s technically still above retail. He won’t do that. |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Feb 18, 2021 6:59:01 GMT -5
You would rather bail out violent rioters than pay a scalper... you have bigger issues my friend. Edit: and actually you stated how you don’t REALLY want those figures and want a different version instead. You go back and forth and change your mind post to post. But I’m done now that you said something completely illogical and downright criminal in its own right... have fun defending violent rioters. No he said he didn’t want the other figures. The L1 = first release and the DM3 = Dragon attire. And he didn’t want the basic version he said he wanted the Elite WM3 figure (FB3 or this Fan Takeover) Here was what he said... “But the white pants are iconic too as he wore that at wrestlemania 3. The Flashback figure was like one of most elusive sets ever. I also don’t have walmarts in nyc. so i never saw that figure for a reasonable price. And now this new one is basically a re-release but i still can’t capture it from amazon. I’m just not that interested in the dragon attire or that first release.“ You proved nothing here. Nowhere in that blurb does he say that he actually wants this white pants look. He said he wants the green look and Mattel is holding out. He’s basically implying that the white pants look is the next best thing but he doesn’t actually say he wants it. |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Feb 17, 2021 22:56:46 GMT -5
This whole thread is you acting as scalpers are committing a crime. If you don’t care about the figure then why even make this thread to begin with? I said i wanted the flashback and the fan takeover figures. Not willing to pay $45+. On principle I cannot give to a scalper. I would rather bail out violent rioters than donate it to a scalper. You would rather bail out violent rioters than pay a scalper... you have bigger issues my friend. Edit: and actually you stated how you don’t REALLY want those figures and want a different version instead. You go back and forth and change your mind post to post. But I’m done now that you said something completely illogical and downright criminal in its own right... have fun defending violent rioters. |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Feb 17, 2021 22:55:34 GMT -5
I just don't entertain the scalper weirdos. I'll never pay over retail for a figure. Fair sellers are out there just be patient. Who is selling a figure at retail price? They are loosing money that way after the fees. And even if you pay retail price, you’re still paying shipping on top of that so you technically are paying more than retail price. |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Feb 17, 2021 22:51:34 GMT -5
Yeah... you had nothing to say to how terrible your analogy is. Cheese and toy collectibles... definitely comparable. Bro, you don’t comprehend English at all. I’m making a point using an example. If you’re that dense I’ll never get through to you and as for contradicting myself no I didn’t. I said saying EVERY hobby shop is a scalper is wrong but in the dudes example he said what if the shop scalps then yes it’s a scalper. You seem to pick out pieces of conversations you understand and leave the rest behind There is not one person or one post on here that said EVERY hobby shop is a scalper. You obviously don’t comprehend English because you read all of those posts wrong. Those people were simply making comparisons. You decided that they wrote that ALL of them are like that. |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Feb 17, 2021 22:47:25 GMT -5
There’s no excuse as to why you don’t have one Steamboast in ten years. There’s no one to blame but yourself. Bruh, chill. I got a life outside of figures. My life doesn’t depend on getting a Ricky Steamboat figure. You’re acting like I committed a crime or something This whole thread is you acting as scalpers are committing a crime. If you don’t care about the figure then why even make this thread to begin with? |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Feb 17, 2021 22:19:33 GMT -5
Why didnt you buy his B45 figure?  I’ve been close. Holding out for the elite, still. The only basic on the shelf is Hideo Itami. There’s no excuse as to why you don’t have one Steamboast in ten years. There’s no one to blame but yourself. |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Feb 17, 2021 22:10:55 GMT -5
Why would I be scalping? You sound like a spoiled child who isn’t getting what the want. This thread had/ has nothing to do with Mattel “holding out on looks.” You’re changing what you’re saying throughout this thread because you know that your original post is silly and a waste of time. And you never “explained” how you couldn’t get a hold of one of your favorite wrestlers in figure form. It’s actually very easy. There’s many of them on eBay. No jokes aside. If you don’t want to spend $45 on one of your favorite wrestlers after 10 years of Mattel making figures the. That is in you. You obviously don’t want him enough. It’s really not that hard. Or, you could have made sure to get it on Amazon before it sold out. This is truly all on you and you want to blame others for not getting the figure you want at the price you want. I guarantee that if someone had an extra and offered to sell it to you at $30 to cover the shipping (which would be making zero profit), you’d say no because it wouldnt be at retail. Find a different hobby. I’m still holding out to purchase from amazon for $20. Not looking to put gas in the scalper’s car or buy him a couple $5 fill-ups. Lol ok. And I’m sure he’ll have no scuffs and be absolutely perfect. Have fun waiting another ten years for a Steamboat. |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Feb 17, 2021 22:07:16 GMT -5
So explain how a hobby shop clearing out stores of exclusives or having online exclusive figures available in their stores at the same prices u see on eBay is any different than the guy in his basement? Just because the hobby shop has a physical storefront? No different they are doing the same exact thing. No, that’s 100% the same thing. I’m saying people saying all hobby shops are middle men and therefore indirectly scalpers is wrong. Lol you literally contradict yourself here. |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Feb 17, 2021 22:06:44 GMT -5
“It’s not different than buying all of a certain product people may want but can only find at one store.” This is exactly why your analogy is comparing apples to lawnmowers. Cheese isn’t exclusive to one store. These are collectibles and store exclusives. Literally unable to compare that to cheese. You can compare buying all the cheese to buying all the toilet paper in a pandemic but not to scalping toy exclusives and selling them on the secondary market. I’m not arguing with you that scalping sucks. I didn’t once defend scalping. But your analogies are really, really bad... they are counterproductive to your arguments. Look up analogy and maybe you’ll understand. Yeah... you had nothing to say to how terrible your analogy is. Cheese and toy collectibles... definitely comparable. |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Feb 17, 2021 22:04:11 GMT -5
So then why are you even complaining about it? You sound ridiculous now. You’re literally whining about a figure you don’t even want. You’ve literally wasted our time. EDIT: and you’ve acknowledged that you wouldn’t even be able to find some exclusives due to not having a Walmart near you. You cant complain about scalpers than because no one is stealing them from you if you arent able to go there. Dude get over yourself. I complained about the amazon figure selling out and then seeing dozens on ebay for $45+. I explained how I’ve managed to not get an elite of one of my favorite wrestlers over the years. Mattel likes to hold out on us on particular looks for whatever reason. Sorry to waste your time. 🤭 You could have been scalping this whole time. Why would I be scalping? You sound like a spoiled child who isn’t getting what the want. This thread had/ has nothing to do with Mattel “holding out on looks.” You’re changing what you’re saying throughout this thread because you know that your original post is silly and a waste of time. And you never “explained” how you couldn’t get a hold of one of your favorite wrestlers in figure form. It’s actually very easy. There’s many of them on eBay. No jokes aside. If you don’t want to spend $45 on one of your favorite wrestlers after 10 years of Mattel making figures the. That is in you. You obviously don’t want him enough. It’s really not that hard. Or, you could have made sure to get it on Amazon before it sold out. This is truly all on you and you want to blame others for not getting the figure you want at the price you want. I guarantee that if someone had an extra and offered to sell it to you at $30 to cover the shipping (which would be making zero profit), you’d say no because it wouldnt be at retail. Find a different hobby. |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Feb 17, 2021 21:59:03 GMT -5
You’re comparing apples to lawnmowers. Your arguments and analogies make no sense. They truly make perfect sense. People arguing for scalpers saying it’s a free market and they are hustling are not wrong in theory but in moral. Someone who waits outside a store to open and buys everyone to resell it to collectors and parents is lame. It’s my opinion. You’re preying on a market. It’s not different than buying all of a certain product people may want but can only find at one store. Doesn’t make anyone a savvy business man or smart just slimy. Again my opinion. As for comparing hobby shops to scalpers that’s just silly. Most retailers get their stock manufacturers and or trade ins. To say they are scalpers is silly. It’s someone running a business not buying toys and reselling them from their basement. To your point you can choose not to buy from a hobby shop but when target is the only retailer selling an item that is scalped it limits buying options. Bad for everyone “It’s not different than buying all of a certain product people may want but can only find at one store.” This is exactly why your analogy is comparing apples to lawnmowers. Cheese isn’t exclusive to one store. These are collectibles and store exclusives. Literally unable to compare that to cheese. You can compare buying all the cheese to buying all the toilet paper in a pandemic but not to scalping toy exclusives and selling them on the secondary market. I’m not arguing with you that scalping sucks. I didn’t once defend scalping. But your analogies are really, really bad... they are counterproductive to your arguments. |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Feb 17, 2021 21:46:48 GMT -5
Sure, there have been several Steamboat releases. To be fair FB3 was scarce, but we don’t know the reasoning as to why he doesn’t yet have a Steamboat. Just trying to look at it about this particular figure, or any figure in general. I would like get Steamboat in green pants without the headband to match more of his classic look rather than WWE run. But the white pants are iconic too as he wore that at wrestlemania 3. The Flashback figure was like one of most elusive sets ever. I also don’t have walmarts in nyc. so i never saw that figure for a reasonable price. And now this new one is basically a re-release but i still can’t capture it from amazon. I’m just not that interested in the dragon attire or that first release. So then why are you even complaining about it? You sound ridiculous now. You’re literally whining about a figure you don’t even want. You’ve literally wasted our time. EDIT: and you’ve acknowledged that you wouldn’t even be able to find some exclusives due to not having a Walmart near you. You cant complain about scalpers then because no one is stealing them from you if you arent able to go there. Dude get over yourself. |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Feb 17, 2021 21:42:50 GMT -5
Wow... this post... You know that you can choose NOT to buy figures on eBay right? You’re acting like someone is holding a gun to your head saying you have to get them there. You can choose not to buy it on eBay just like you’re saying you can choose to not buy it in a collectible shop... Wow...your post.... No one said I didn’t have a choice. I’m simply stating comparing a store to a person buying and marking up a stock is not the same. By that argument every pizza shop in the world is gouging the customers who can buy sauce, dough and cheese at a fraction of the cost. Difference is if I bought the limited amount of “cheese” aka action figures at every target in driving distance so that no one could make pizza then it would make me a scumbag You’re comparing apples to lawnmowers. Your arguments and analogies make no sense. |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Feb 17, 2021 21:37:51 GMT -5
To piggy back off of what the other guy is saying, the OP stated that he hasn’t been able to acquire any Steamboat from the beginning of Mattel making WWE figures. If you could t acquire even one then you’re not willing to pay for it. There have been many opportunities to get a Steamboat. If you can’t gather $45 after 10 years for one figure then you probably shouldn’t be in the collecting game. And yes, I know money is hard to come by, especially in a pandemic. But if money is that tight then you should t be collecting at all. Priorities. Sure, there have been several Steamboat releases. To be fair FB3 was scarce, but we don’t know the reasoning as to why he doesn’t yet have a Steamboat. Just trying to look at it about this particular figure, or any figure in general. But this is the collecting world we live in now post Toys R Us and pandemic. It’s not difficult to find general releases. You can get those on Ringside for less than retail if you are patient enough. The only thing people ever complain about are store exclusives. Store exclusives are hard to come by and scalpers make it even more difficult. That is a fact. But to complain about it, or just refuse to face the fact that this is a reality is on the OP. This is what you might have to pay to get store EXCLUSIVES. He’s even being picky about the robe and paint smudges. It’s hard enough find these in stores (or on Amazon). How does he expect to find a perfect one too?! It’s been ten years since Mattel has been around. If you want a Steamboat THAT bad then it $45. He obviously doesn’t want it that bad. And that’s fine. But just don’t complain about it then. |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Feb 17, 2021 21:28:55 GMT -5
The argument isn’t about selling 10 figures. The OP is mad because he can’t get Ricky at retail. The scalpers are t going to sell it at retail or even $30 because they’d make nothing out of it. Selling at $45 is allowing them to at least make $10. Is it fun for people that want the figure? Of course not. But every collector has to deal with this. I deal with this with wrestling figures, TMNT, Funko, etc. And of course they are making some money after selling multiples, but they aren’t making much with one. No one is walking away with $20 profit from selling one Steamboat at $45 like you said. Shipping MOC is way more expensive then loose. And what if the figures don’t sell? Then the buyer (scalper) is stuck with the item and the cost. So it’s their gamble. There is some risk on their side, especially if they are trying to sell 4-5 of the same item. The discussion has become more about flipping and “scalping” in general. It’s why I’m neutral on the subject. $45-50 for one figure exclusive online isn’t bad (in my opinion) It’s when it becomes multiples of said items. Like that second listing. 4-5 Steamboats pictured. Clearly with 4-5 to sell. Then we wonder why figures go up online and are gone within minutes. That’s the part that I don’t agree with. We are agreeing on a lot of the same things here. The only thing we dont agree on is how much they are making for ONE figure. They are not making $15-20 on one figure at $45. After shipping and fees they are lucky if they make $13. Most likely they are only walking away with $10. |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Feb 17, 2021 21:22:47 GMT -5
What are you talking about? It is a modest profit for the seller. You obviously can’t afford to be in this hobby. So not paying $40+ for a figure means one can’t afford the hobby? We’re not here to give a crap how much profit the seller makes, the buyer is still paying double the retail price. Not many people could afford that on a regular basis. To piggy back off of what the other guy is saying, the OP stated that he hasn’t been able to acquire any Steamboat from the beginning of Mattel making WWE figures. If you could t acquire even one then you’re not willing to pay for it. There have been many opportunities to get a Steamboat. If you can’t gather $45 after 10 years for one figure then you probably shouldn’t be in the collecting game. And yes, I know money is hard to come by, especially in a pandemic. But if money is that tight then you should t be collecting at all. Priorities. |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Feb 17, 2021 21:19:46 GMT -5
This is extremely inaccurate. You obviously have no idea how much it costs to ship a figure nowadays. Plus fees. The guy is making tops $13. And that’s being generous. That’s not a huge markup. And guess what? If you don’t like it then don’t buy it. I collect loose, so that’s all I can base it on. Haha Again, I’m mostly neutral on the matter. I don’t shake a stick at anyone who flips for a small profit, but you can’t act like someone isn’t walking away with a decent payout after 4-5 figures. Now take that towards the people who sell 2-3 times that much. Again, there’s a reason people do it. And it’s not to make a “modest” profit. The argument isn’t about selling 10 figures. The OP is mad because he can’t get Ricky at retail. The scalpers are t going to sell it at retail or even $30 because they’d make nothing out of it. Selling at $45 is allowing them to at least make $10. Is it fun for people that want the figure? Of course not. But every collector has to deal with this. I deal with this with wrestling figures, TMNT, Funko, etc. And of course they are making some money after selling multiples, but they aren’t making much with one. No one is walking away with $20 profit from selling one Steamboat at $45 like you said. Shipping MOC is way more expensive then loose. And what if the figures don’t sell? Then the buyer (scalper) is stuck with the item and the cost. So it’s their gamble. There is some risk on their side, especially if they are trying to sell 4-5 of the same item. |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Feb 17, 2021 21:08:45 GMT -5
What are you talking about? It is a modest profit for the seller. You obviously can’t afford to be in this hobby. I’m very neutral on the matter, but let’s not act like with this specific figure they aren’t walking away with a good $15+ profit on one single figure. Even at $45, I’d be willing to bet these sellers have Prime, which is basically $20 for the figure. Charging at $45-50, maybe “losing” $10 on the deal between eBay fees and shipping. Still a $15-20 profit per figure. Hardly “modest”. They wouldn’t be selling them at that price if the intention wasn’t turning a high profit margin. This is extremely inaccurate. You obviously have no idea how much it costs to ship a figure nowadays. Plus fees. The guy is making tops $13. And that’s being generous. That’s not a huge markup. And guess what? If you don’t like it then don’t buy it. |
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