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Post by carly1988 on Nov 7, 2009 1:24:26 GMT -5
Until CC needs a triple bypass halfway through the 2011 season
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Post by One Love on Nov 7, 2009 8:00:28 GMT -5
Manny Ramirez exercised his $20 million dollar option for 2010. No surprise. Even Sosa's eyes are a different color. Maybe he wants to be a zombie. Jesus christ.......
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Nov 7, 2009 9:03:32 GMT -5
That happens when you spend big money on a free agent who ends up being a bust. Well, it happens to any team except the Yankees. Carl Pavano, Jaret Wright, Jason Giambi, Tony Womack, and so on. We had our share of free agent failures before it finally worked out. Yes, they were failures, but the Yankees can afford to eat those contracts. The Cubs are going to be handcuffed by Milton Bradley's contract for the next 2-3 years. If it was the Yankees, they would cut him or trade him for anything they could get and eat his contract. Other teams can't afford to do that.
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Post by T R W on Nov 7, 2009 9:13:18 GMT -5
Good God, Sosa looks like a tranny!
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Post by LA Times on Nov 7, 2009 9:25:28 GMT -5
Carl Pavano, Jaret Wright, Jason Giambi, Tony Womack, and so on. We had our share of free agent failures before it finally worked out. Yes, they were failures, but the Yankees can afford to eat those contracts. The Cubs are going to be handcuffed by Milton Bradley's contract for the next 2-3 years. If it was the Yankees, they would cut him or trade him for anything they could get and eat his contract. Other teams can't afford to do that. Meanwhile, the Phillies are still hurting from signing Adam F*cking Eaton
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Nov 7, 2009 9:50:12 GMT -5
Yes, they were failures, but the Yankees can afford to eat those contracts. The Cubs are going to be handcuffed by Milton Bradley's contract for the next 2-3 years. If it was the Yankees, they would cut him or trade him for anything they could get and eat his contract. Other teams can't afford to do that. Meanwhile, the Phillies are still hurting from signing Adam F*cking Eaton Got him off the books finally. They still had Jim Thome on the books as well.
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Post by AgentJ on Nov 7, 2009 9:50:35 GMT -5
Good God, Sosa looks like a tranny! I just watched the movie Sugar, and on the special features they showed him on the Red Carpet. That was just this year and he looked nothing like that.
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Post by LA Times on Nov 7, 2009 10:46:40 GMT -5
Meanwhile, the Phillies are still hurting from signing Adam F*cking Eaton Got him off the books finally. They still had Jim Thome on the books as well. They still have to pay Eaton $500K in 2010 for the buyout
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Nov 7, 2009 11:16:56 GMT -5
Cubs have the money, they are just idiots with how they spend it...Zambrano, Soriano etc
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Post by Mac Miller on Nov 7, 2009 12:27:44 GMT -5
Carl Pavano, Jaret Wright, Jason Giambi, Tony Womack, and so on. We had our share of free agent failures before it finally worked out. Yes, they were failures, but the Yankees can afford to eat those contracts. The Cubs are going to be handcuffed by Milton Bradley's contract for the next 2-3 years. If it was the Yankees, they would cut him or trade him for anything they could get and eat his contract. Other teams can't afford to do that. I didn't say anything about how they have the money to eat contracts or anything. He said that the Yankees free agent choices always work out, and I was giving examples of how that isn't true and that they've had their failures before Teixeira, CC and AJ worked out.
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Post by Wrigley15 on Nov 7, 2009 12:53:57 GMT -5
Cubs have the money, they are just idiots with how they spend it...Zambrano, Soriano etc Exactly. It isnt like were not making money its how weve spent it. With the 3rd. highest payroll in baseball we should be a hell of alot better team then what we are. We sell out every home game and have fans all over the U.S just like the Yanks and Red sox do when they travel. The cubs are taking in the dough believe me but its how weve spent it like stated above. Zambrano is payed like an ace but he is not an ace. He in my eyes is a number 2 starter but he puts asses in seats because hes a major draw because of his batting. Soriano had a bad year this year because of injuries and bad at bats but hes a good player when hes on but isnt the type of player is worth the money what he is paid. If the cubs wouldnt do such big and expensive contracts we'd have the money to spend and guys we need instead of settling for mediocracy every year by saying oh well Jeff Baker is "good enough". Teams with a bunch of players who are "good enough" are teams that dont win the world series or even go deep in the postseason. There is no reason a $140,000,000 million dollar team should be threatened by a team like the Brewers and Braves.
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Post by Flyrfn144 on Nov 7, 2009 13:35:45 GMT -5
I'm interested to see if the Phillies pick up Feliz's option this offseason or if they go after another 3B. If they don't pick it up, I'd like to see them make a run at either Beltre or Figgins
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Post by DWright on Nov 7, 2009 13:40:38 GMT -5
I'm interested to see if the Phillies pick up Feliz's option this offseason or if they go after another 3B. If they don't pick it up, I'd like to see them make a run at either Beltre or Figgins There are several third base options on the free agent market that could pique Amaro's interest. Both Adrian Beltre and Chone Figgins would represent a significant offensive upgrade at the position, and according to UZR/150, they'd even provide a defensive boost over Feliz's already sterling glovework. I'm just throwing two names out there, we haven't seen the Phillies connected to either Beltre or Figgins yet. -MLB trade rumors Hmm...
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Post by Flyrfn144 on Nov 7, 2009 13:49:06 GMT -5
I'm interested to see if the Phillies pick up Feliz's option this offseason or if they go after another 3B. If they don't pick it up, I'd like to see them make a run at either Beltre or Figgins There are several third base options on the free agent market that could pique Amaro's interest. Both Adrian Beltre and Chone Figgins would represent a significant offensive upgrade at the position, and according to UZR/150, they'd even provide a defensive boost over Feliz's already sterling glovework. I'm just throwing two names out there, we haven't seen the Phillies connected to either Beltre or Figgins yet. -MLB trade rumors Hmm... I'd love to see Beltre come in. He's an offensive upgrade in power and RBIs, he hits for about the same AVG and he had back to back gold gloves in '07 and '08, so he would actually be an upgrade defensively over Feliz who is already a great defensive player. I say it's worth a shot. I don't mind Feliz, but his bat was a huge problem in the world series
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Post by Mac Miller on Nov 7, 2009 14:01:38 GMT -5
Adrian Beltre seems like he should be like 45 years old, it feels like he has been around FOREVER, but hes only 31. Hard to remember he came up when he was 19.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Nov 7, 2009 14:45:36 GMT -5
Exactly. If it works out, you look like a genius, if it doesn't, people criticize you. You really have to do your homework on a player before you commit long term on them, which is what I think was a big part of how it worked for the Yankees this year. Before they were handing out contracts to Pavano even though he had ONE good year and Jaret Wright even though he failed his physical. This time I think they signed the right guys, younger players who are just hitting their primes and are likely to be productive for years to come. I agree with all that, but that's beside my point. My point is the Yankees can offer guys like that a contract and take a risk. If it fails, they can afford to eat the contract. Other teams can't. I mentioned the Cubs earlier. If they end up eating the Milton Bradley contract (and it looks like they will), it will cripple them financially for the next 2-3 years at least and they're one of the "haves" in the baseball world. If the Yankees had signed Bradley and he had flopped just as bad, they'd just eat the contract and go out and sign someone else.
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Post by LA Times on Nov 7, 2009 15:11:44 GMT -5
There are several third base options on the free agent market that could pique Amaro's interest. Both Adrian Beltre and Chone Figgins would represent a significant offensive upgrade at the position, and according to UZR/150, they'd even provide a defensive boost over Feliz's already sterling glovework. I'm just throwing two names out there, we haven't seen the Phillies connected to either Beltre or Figgins yet. -MLB trade rumors Hmm... I'd love to see Beltre come in. He's an offensive upgrade in power and RBIs, he hits for about the same AVG and he had back to back gold gloves in '07 and '08, so he would actually be an upgrade defensively over Feliz who is already a great defensive player. I say it's worth a shot. I don't mind Feliz, but his bat was a huge problem in the world series Beltre is a Boras client and the Phillies might as well ask the Red Sox if Lowell is available in that case.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Nov 7, 2009 15:37:11 GMT -5
I'd love to see Beltre come in. He's an offensive upgrade in power and RBIs, he hits for about the same AVG and he had back to back gold gloves in '07 and '08, so he would actually be an upgrade defensively over Feliz who is already a great defensive player. I say it's worth a shot. I don't mind Feliz, but his bat was a huge problem in the world series Beltre is a Boras client and the Phillies might as well ask the Red Sox if Lowell is available in that case. So they give up prospects and pay more to an older 3B when you can just sign Beltre, who is 31 and has the potential to rebound? Smart thinking there Steve Phillips
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Post by lavidaloca on Nov 7, 2009 17:41:13 GMT -5
i know what hulk is talking about...the royals overpaid for jose guillen...and it has ing crippled us for the last 3 years. that and dayton moore spends money like a drunk sailor, 9 million for farnsworth! woooooweeeee! i hate being a royals fan
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Post by Chip on Nov 7, 2009 18:25:20 GMT -5
If the Angels let Figgins go they are stupid. He is a tremendous player and a valueable asset to any team. I could see the Phillies landing Beltre, he should have a rebound year in '10 not to mention being in a "hitter friendly" park like CB park might help
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