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Post by mnm213 on Dec 8, 2009 20:48:16 GMT -5
Except Noble is small and a midcarder at best, where-as MVP and Swagger have/had potental to become main guys. And I'm not just saying that because I like them, I like Evan Bourne but I realize he'll never become a main eventer. Well Rey and Punk have held World titles so size doesnt really matter. Had Noble been booked right from the time he was brought back he could have been a "wrestling machine" type character. poop I would have settled for a nice IC run. Well I'd agree with that. I think the feud with Bill Regal last year was awesome, and should have been over the IC title, but this is vintage Raw, everyone who is small is a jobber (see Evan Bourne, Primo).
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Post by slappy on Dec 8, 2009 20:49:46 GMT -5
Some people you just can't make into stars.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2009 20:58:24 GMT -5
If they didnt seriously make Regal into Christian's bitch, Id love to see him come to RAW and get the main event run he screwed himself out of before. Cena vs Regal could be a good series of matches.
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Post by instant classic on Dec 8, 2009 22:24:28 GMT -5
Russo would book them.
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Post by slappy on Dec 8, 2009 23:27:46 GMT -5
Yeah, we'd end up with a bunch of 3 and 4 minute matches and everyone would bitch about that.
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Post by ericbischoff on Dec 9, 2009 1:23:14 GMT -5
All RAW do is, focus to the superstars who would make lots of money for its company. Yeah, business is business.
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Post by Midnight-Metal-Master on Dec 9, 2009 1:31:58 GMT -5
Getting rid of Mark Henry would help Raw. I'm not sure why people seem to like him. Uuuh...Cuz He's Black Seriously though these fools seem to be getting a HUGE push latley people like Henry and MVP the SAME 2 people that got their @$$es booed to hell and back last year. Now they're being loved and excepted by everybody. The same "everybody" that hated them before. I relize thats how wrestling is, If your a Heel your Disliked and If your a Face your a Fan favorite and whatever. But when you have $h*tty writers from RAW putting SUPERSTARS Like Randy Orton former World Champion in a Fued and Jobbing to a ridiculous jumping Black Jelly Bean Kofi Kingston IT REALLY PISSES ME OFF! So yeah the roster is screwed up because some of these people In my eyes We should only have to look at on WWE Superstars or somethin'.
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Post by WFK on Dec 9, 2009 1:39:34 GMT -5
Getting rid of Mark Henry would help Raw. I'm not sure why people seem to like him. Uuuh...Cuz He's Black Seriously though these fools seem to be getting a HUGE push latley people like Henry and MVP the SAME 2 people that got their @$$es booed to hell and back last year. Now they're being loved and excepted by everybody. The same "everybody" that hated them before. I relize thats how wrestling is, If your a Heel your Disliked and If your a Face your a Fan favorite and whatever. But when you have $h*tty writers from RAW putting SUPERSTARS Like Randy Orton former World Champion in a Fued and Jobbing to a ridiculous jumping Black Jelly Bean Kofi Kingston IT REALLY PISSES ME OFF! So yeah the roster is screwed up because some of these people In my eyes We should only have to look at on WWE Superstars or somethin'. Seriously, what the ?
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Post by slappy on Dec 9, 2009 1:40:36 GMT -5
Getting rid of Mark Henry would help Raw. I'm not sure why people seem to like him. Uuuh...Cuz He's Black Seriously though these fools seem to be getting a HUGE push latley people like Henry and MVP the SAME 2 people that got their @$$es booed to hell and back last year. Now they're being loved and excepted by everybody. The same "everybody" that hated them before. I relize thats how wrestling is, If your a Heel your Disliked and If your a Face your a Fan favorite and whatever. But when you have $h*tty writers from RAW putting SUPERSTARS Like Randy Orton former World Champion in a Fued and Jobbing to a ridiculous jumping Black Jelly Bean Kofi Kingston IT REALLY PISSES ME OFF! So yeah the roster is screwed up because some of these people In my eyes We should only have to look at on WWE Superstars or somethin'. So only white wrestlers should be on Raw?
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Post by Jimmy on Dec 9, 2009 1:41:17 GMT -5
Getting rid of Mark Henry would help Raw. I'm not sure why people seem to like him. Uuuh...Cuz He's Black Seriously though these fools seem to be getting a HUGE push latley people like Henry and MVP the SAME 2 people that got their @$$es booed to hell and back last year. Now they're being loved and excepted by everybody. The same "everybody" that hated them before. I relize thats how wrestling is, If your a Heel your Disliked and If your a Face your a Fan favorite and whatever. But when you have $h*tty writers from RAW putting SUPERSTARS Like Randy Orton former World Champion in a Fued and Jobbing to a ridiculous jumping Black Jelly Bean Kofi Kingston IT REALLY PISSES ME OFF! So yeah the roster is screwed up because some of these people In my eyes We should only have to look at on WWE Superstars or somethin'. ...
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Post by thecrutonbomb on Dec 9, 2009 1:45:31 GMT -5
They could make Raw better if they got the CW instead of the Divas seeing there are so many unused CWs on Raw.
Also talking about Raw, The Bellas? WTF do they do, they would be way better on tNa in the Knockouts Tag Team Division.
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Post by abyss on Dec 9, 2009 2:01:31 GMT -5
RAW has a fantastic roster but they fail to utilize it properly. It's the same sh*t week in, week out. The main reasons I will actually watch RAW are to see Evan Bourne, Jack Swagger, The Miz, Maryse and Chris Jericho. Worst thing about that is Jericho is a SmackDown guy, Bourne jobs, Swagger hasn't done anything lately and Maryse.. well, she's awesome. SmackDown and ECW are where it's at! I agree with this pretty much word-for-word, except for the Smackdown part at the end, since I don't watch Smackdown. But yeah, Jericho, Swagge, Miz, and Maryse are the main reasons to watch. Jericho has been great, Miz is getting a push, Maryse is awesome, and Swagger is getting treated like garbage.
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Post by Midnight-Metal-Master on Dec 9, 2009 2:17:43 GMT -5
Uuuh...Cuz He's Black Seriously though these fools seem to be getting a HUGE push latley people like Henry and MVP the SAME 2 people that got their @$$es booed to hell and back last year. Now they're being loved and excepted by everybody. The same "everybody" that hated them before. I relize thats how wrestling is, If your a Heel your Disliked and If your a Face your a Fan favorite and whatever. But when you have $h*tty writers from RAW putting SUPERSTARS Like Randy Orton former World Champion in a Fued and Jobbing to a ridiculous jumping Black Jelly Bean Kofi Kingston IT REALLY PISSES ME OFF! So yeah the roster is screwed up because some of these people In my eyes We should only have to look at on WWE Superstars or somethin'. So only white wrestlers should be on Raw? Is that what I said?....NO and what was racist about it just because I dislike somebody whose black makes me racist. I dont think so. If i would of said what I REALLY wanted to say then yeah, I would of been racist. I just dont like seeing or hearing people cheer or like somebody just because they're black and they feel that its "Racist" if they dont!
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Post by slappy on Dec 9, 2009 2:19:42 GMT -5
So only white wrestlers should be on Raw? Is that what I said?....NO and what was racist about it just because I dislike somebody whose black makes me racist. I dont think so. If i would of said what I REALLY wanted to say then yeah, I would of been racist. I just dont like seeing or hearing people cheer or like somebody just because they're black and they feel that its "Racist" if they dont! If you only dislike them because they are black, then yes, it makes you racist.
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Post by Midnight-Metal-Master on Dec 9, 2009 2:23:46 GMT -5
Is that what I said?....NO and what was racist about it just because I dislike somebody whose black makes me racist. I dont think so. If i would of said what I REALLY wanted to say then yeah, I would of been racist. I just dont like seeing or hearing people cheer or like somebody just because they're black and they feel that its "Racist" if they dont! If you only dislike them because they are black, then yes, it makes you racist. Your missing the point "Slappy" What it all boils down to is people kissing @$$ and sucking up because they think they have to. Oh and uh...I hate John Cena but he's white so does that make me racist? Just wondering?! Probley not...cuz he white right? Seriously though I dont feel that anything Iv said was racist I was just speaking what I belive is the the truth.
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Post by Jimmy on Dec 9, 2009 2:27:36 GMT -5
WF's most racist poster, ladies and gentleman. A round of appluase.
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Post by Infinite on Dec 9, 2009 3:20:43 GMT -5
The best thing about RAW is a Smackdown star. That should tell you something. thread solved.
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Post by DTP. on Dec 9, 2009 11:40:14 GMT -5
Why do people bitch about the fact he isnt wearing sleeves anymore? Yeah that totally means they are trying to bury him. Dude wasnt getting over enough on his own. Teaming with Henry is working for him and they are a decent tag team. MVP main eventing PPVs is not going to sell tickets. Because MVP's jumpsuit looked nice and was actually unique, now he looks like everybody else. And I love how people use the "that won't sell tickets" excuse, and SHEAMUS main eventing, will? . If they build him up to be a threat to the title enough, it will sell, enough said. And MVP was actually getting over on his own, the feud with Swagger was getting really good and they stopped it cause they saw they were getting bigger reactions than their top stars. They ALWAYS do this. He was about to enter a feud with Orton after Backlash and they completely ruined it by inserting Triple H in there. And then they go ahead and blackball his character by admitting he was in prison, god... No, his feud with Swagger was pure filler and their match at SummerSlam lasted about six to eight minute long. And if you watch that match, sure, some parts of the audience care, but the crowd are more quiet for that match than than any other match on that card, even Kane vs Khali.
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Post by wabarrett on Dec 9, 2009 12:05:12 GMT -5
The roster itself is near enough perfect. It is just that far too many of the guys on it aren't being used.
There are only about 15-20 guys on RAW, which isn't a lot, and then only about 10 are on every week (Legacy, DX, Kofi, MVP, Henry, The Miz etc.)
WWE could, and should, start doing something with Bourne, Swagger, Carlito and Primo, Masters etc. and they could quite easily make big things happen for them just like that.
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Post by ohernan6 on Dec 9, 2009 12:30:01 GMT -5
I watch Raw for MVP, The Miz, Jack Swagger, Maryse and Evan Bourne. I can say Miz and Maryse are being used good, can't say the same for the other three. MVP should be main eventing on Smackdown by now, Evan Bourne should be a former ECW Champion by now and Jack Swagger should be in Sheamus' spot. I'm sick and tired of all these guys' characters changing, just because Raw's creative team has beans for brains and can't continue the direction that Smackdown had them in. MVP is a cocky guy, who talked his way into the highest paid contract. He isn't an ex-con who "came across some money" and worked hard to get where he is. He isn't even the highest paid superstar on Raw anymore. What's wrong with them? They completely took everything away from MVP's character and made it crap - they cut the intro of his music, took away his tunnel, cut his sleeves off and tagged him with Mark f&cking Henry. I agree with this 100% - MVP could have been a HUGE heel by now... I don't understand how the writers thought that the losing streak he was on a couple of years ago could have benefited anyone...
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