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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2009 12:55:31 GMT -5
If you only dislike them because they are black, then yes, it makes you racist. Your missing the point "Slappy" What it all boils down to is people kissing @$$ and sucking up because they think they have to. Oh and uh...I hate John Cena but he's white so does that make me racist? Just wondering?! Probley not...cuz he white right? Seriously though I dont feel that anything Iv said was racist I was just speaking what I belive is the the truth. Ummmm "Black Jelly Bean" is racist right? Or am I crazy? And then saying if you said what you really wanted to say then itd be racist shows that you are infact...........................
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Post by xoptimusxchadx on Dec 9, 2009 13:22:27 GMT -5
I watch Raw for a few people: DX, John Cena, Legacy, Kofi Kingston, MVP and Sheamus. Everyone else on the roster has no appeal to me. Why? Because either the WWE dropped the ball with them or I just don't like them. A few guys come to mind right away: - Primo, Evan Bourne, Chavo Guerrero, MVP, Jack Swagger, Santino, Carlito and Chris Masters all deserve to be showcased every week. For some reason they are either in comedy roles or just not being used enough. This has nothing to do with the WWE being PG, it has to do with the WWE not using their talent the right way or just focusing WAY too much on the other feuds. To me, Raw is lame aside from a few people. So what do you guys feel is the problem with Raw? THANK YOU! I feel the same way. I use to watch RAW when I was kid and I was crazy about it. Then somewhere between 2005-2008 they completely lost my interest. Seems like there is a new face every week and a new champion every week. I just can't keep up. Shamus now gets a title show? Why? Why not someone with more appeal that I believe could beat Cena. How about we take the title off of CENA?!?!?!?!?
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Post by BlackSwagger on Dec 9, 2009 13:56:56 GMT -5
What's wrong w/ the Orton n' Kofi feud. It's one of the best things on RAW right now. I didn't really care for Kofi at first, but he really grew on me during his US Title run. I think the feud works for both parties involved right now. Kofi is so over with the fans right now it's ridiculous.
I liked the way the WWE used a losing streak to push MVP towards the face role. It worked really well. Unfortunately he's gotten stale and needs to go back to heel in the worst way. I agree that the best way to do it would be to have him turn on Mark Henry. His gimmick just makes more sense as an arrogant sob.
They need to break up DX because 40 year old men telling people to suck it and acting like teenagers is pretty lame. Make Trips and HBK battle it out and kill the DX name for good. The constant reviving of DX is annoying.
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Post by ohernan6 on Dec 9, 2009 14:40:10 GMT -5
I liked the way the WWE used a losing streak to push MVP towards the face role. It worked really well. Unfortunately he's gotten stale and needs to go back to heel in the worst way. I agree that the best way to do it would be to have him turn on Mark Henry. His gimmick just makes more sense as an arrogant sob. I have no idea how a losing streak works good in any way. His heel run was on fire and the next thing you know he was losing. Sure we cheered when he finally got his win, but that's just a short-term reward. Many people were starting to see him as a main-eventer at one time, and now he ended up being the mid-carder who was losing for months. There was way more damage done than good Plus, there are way better ways to have a heel turn face - I'm pretty sure we're not going to see Edge on a losing streak any time soon...
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Post by jfinnomore on Dec 9, 2009 14:54:06 GMT -5
What's wrong w/ the Orton n' Kofi feud. It's one of the best things on RAW right now. I didn't really care for Kofi at first, but he really grew on me during his US Title run. I think the feud works for both parties involved right now. Kofi is so over with the fans right now it's ridiculous.I liked the way the WWE used a losing streak to push MVP towards the face role. It worked really well. Unfortunately he's gotten stale and needs to go back to heel in the worst way. I agree that the best way to do it would be to have him turn on Mark Henry. His gimmick just makes more sense as an arrogant sob. They need to break up DX because 40 year old men telling people to suck it and acting like teenagers is pretty lame. Make Trips and HBK battle it out and kill the DX name for good. The constant reviving of DX is annoying. i think thats what DEATH finds wrong with it, that the black man is going over the white man. i'm personally loving that feud as well.
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Post by BlackSwagger on Dec 9, 2009 15:01:34 GMT -5
I liked the way the WWE used a losing streak to push MVP towards the face role. It worked really well. Unfortunately he's gotten stale and needs to go back to heel in the worst way. I agree that the best way to do it would be to have him turn on Mark Henry. His gimmick just makes more sense as an arrogant sob. I have no idea how a losing streak works good in any way. His heel run was on fire and the next thing you know he was losing. Sure we cheered when he finally got his win, but that's just a short-term reward. Many people were starting to see him as a main-eventer at one time, and now he ended up being the mid-carder who was losing for months. There was way more damage done than good Plus, there are way better ways to have a heel turn face - I'm pretty sure we're not going to see Edge on a losing streak any time soon... I agree with you on the timing of his face turn. He was on fire as a heel and they should've left him alone. I just like the way they did it because the fans really got behind him. They kept him in front of the fans, didn't job him out completely, next thing you know the fans feel bad for him and start wanting him to win. Bam...simple face push.
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Post by Burger Lad on Dec 9, 2009 15:59:25 GMT -5
Raw ain't what it used to be....they should get rid of Hornswaggle.....DX pushing their merchandise...stupid guest hosts and concentrate on wrestling with some decent feuds that don't come and go in one month to six weeks.
Order of shows I watch (i.e. definitely watch & least time fast-forwarded): Smackdown Vintage TNA Impact RAW ECW
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Post by ohernan6 on Dec 9, 2009 16:03:31 GMT -5
Raw ain't what it used to be....they should get rid of Hornswaggle.....DX pushing their merchandise...stupid guest hosts and concentrate on wrestling with some decent feuds that don't come and go in one month to six weeks. Order of shows I watch (i.e. definitely watch & least time fast-forwarded): Smackdown Vintage TNA Impact RAW ECW You gotta watch ECW more... I think it's up there with Smackdown!
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Post by gordon on Dec 9, 2009 16:08:46 GMT -5
If you only dislike them because they are black, then yes, it makes you racist. Your missing the point "Slappy" What it all boils down to is people kissing @$$ and sucking up because they think they have to. Oh and uh...I hate John Cena but he's white so does that make me racist? Just wondering?! Probley not...cuz he white right? Seriously though I dont feel that anything Iv said was racist I was just speaking what I belive is the the truth. So not only are you racist, your a complete idiot as well? They're not sucking up you tool. The whole point of having faces and heels is that you cheer the faces, boo the heels. If we all just loved the heels, there would be no point.
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Post by Midnight-Metal-Master on Dec 9, 2009 16:30:11 GMT -5
Your missing the point "Slappy" What it all boils down to is people kissing @$$ and sucking up because they think they have to. Oh and uh...I hate John Cena but he's white so does that make me racist? Just wondering?! Probley not...cuz he white right? Seriously though I dont feel that anything Iv said was racist I was just speaking what I belive is the the truth. So not only are you racist, your a complete idiot as well? They're not sucking up you tool. The whole point of having faces and heels is that you cheer the faces, boo the heels. If we all just loved the heels, there would be no point. Maybe your the idiot because I say I ing hate Kofi Kingston and just because hes black im supposedly racist? him and you. I like and dislike WHATEVER I want punk.
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Post by BlackSwagger on Dec 9, 2009 16:48:42 GMT -5
So not only are you racist, your a complete idiot as well? They're not sucking up you tool. The whole point of having faces and heels is that you cheer the faces, boo the heels. If we all just loved the heels, there would be no point. Maybe your the idiot because I say I ing hate Kofi Kingston and just because hes black im supposedly racist? him and you. I like and dislike WHATEVER I want punk. It's not that you dislike him. The problem is in the way you express your dislike. You could've easily just said you don't like Orton being matched up against Kofi because he annoys you. Instead you called him a black jumping bean, or something to that effect, and that was how you left it. It was unnecessary and you were called out. Damn sure isn't the worst I've heard/read, but still not needed.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2009 16:58:06 GMT -5
So not only are you racist, your a complete idiot as well? They're not sucking up you tool. The whole point of having faces and heels is that you cheer the faces, boo the heels. If we all just loved the heels, there would be no point. Maybe your the idiot because I say I ing hate Kofi Kingston and just because hes black im supposedly racist? him and you. I like and dislike WHATEVER I want punk. If i would of said what I REALLY wanted to say then yeah, I would of been racist. Saying you WANTED to say something racist, makes you a racist
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Post by gordon on Dec 9, 2009 17:18:52 GMT -5
Maybe your the idiot because I say I ing hate Kofi Kingston and just because hes black im supposedly racist? him and you. I like and dislike WHATEVER I want punk. It's not that you dislike him. The problem is in the way you express your dislike. You could've easily just said you don't like Orton being matched up against Kofi because he annoys you. Instead you called him a black jumping bean, or something to that effect, and that was how you left it. It was unnecessary and you were called out. Damn sure isn't the worst I've heard/read, but still not needed. Wow you're cool, wanna be friends? Funny how you say you're not racist, yet you even admitted you wanted to say racist things. And you picked out all black guys to say you disliked.
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Post by BlackSwagger on Dec 9, 2009 17:40:31 GMT -5
It's not that you dislike him. The problem is in the way you express your dislike. You could've easily just said you don't like Orton being matched up against Kofi because he annoys you. Instead you called him a black jumping bean, or something to that effect, and that was how you left it. It was unnecessary and you were called out. Damn sure isn't the worst I've heard/read, but still not needed. Wow you're cool, wanna be friends? Funny how you say you're not racist, yet you even admitted you wanted to say racist things. And you picked out all black guys to say you disliked. I would be honored. Look at me...all flustered.
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Post by gordon on Dec 9, 2009 17:57:10 GMT -5
Wow you're cool, wanna be friends? Funny how you say you're not racist, yet you even admitted you wanted to say racist things. And you picked out all black guys to say you disliked. I would be honored. Look at me...all flustered. I quoted the wrong person. Meant to quote the racist guy. We can still be friends lol.
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Post by BlackSwagger on Dec 9, 2009 19:30:57 GMT -5
I would be honored. Look at me...all flustered. I quoted the wrong person. Meant to quote the racist guy. We can still be friends lol.
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Post by ACON on Dec 9, 2009 21:06:30 GMT -5
I can honeslty say that I haven't been watching that many RAW's lately because I don't like the special guest hosts. I think they should bring it back to the basics of just a GM. It works so much better that way. Why now let Steamboat be the GM. He's good on the mic and I'd watch RAW a lot more. I'm tired of people that have nothing to do with wrestling, hosting the show. It's so watered down now. RAW right now is just a mess, and it seems like the way that they are handling RAW is the same way that WCW was being handled. All of the top guys say on the top and they haven't been working hard on getting the new blood ready for main event spots. You can agree with me or not, but thats just my opinion.
Lately, I've been watching just SD and ECW. They just seem like much better shows to me.
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