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Post by JCF on Dec 8, 2009 18:55:55 GMT -5
I watch Raw for a few people: DX, John Cena, Legacy, Kofi Kingston, MVP and Sheamus.
Everyone else on the roster has no appeal to me. Why? Because either the WWE dropped the ball with them or I just don't like them. A few guys come to mind right away:
- Primo, Evan Bourne, Chavo Guerrero, MVP, Jack Swagger, Santino, Carlito and Chris Masters all deserve to be showcased every week. For some reason they are either in comedy roles or just not being used enough. This has nothing to do with the WWE being PG, it has to do with the WWE not using their talent the right way or just focusing WAY too much on the other feuds. To me, Raw is lame aside from a few people. So what do you guys feel is the problem with Raw?
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Post by marino13 on Dec 8, 2009 19:03:58 GMT -5
I think RAW is more focused on the celebrity side of things. I agree with all the names you mentioned, they should all be showcased more.
I know some people will blame Triple H but it wasn't like that when he was on SD last year, so I don't think that has anything to do with it.
I think the writers on RAW suck!
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Post by the franchise on Dec 8, 2009 19:05:37 GMT -5
Getting rid of Mark Henry would help Raw. I'm not sure why people seem to like him.
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Post by jfinnomore on Dec 8, 2009 19:15:57 GMT -5
i usually only tune into Raw for The Miz or John Cena, if DX or Legacy has the mic/match i just flip the channel to Monday Night Football.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2009 19:17:36 GMT -5
The best thing about RAW is a Smackdown star. That should tell you something.
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Post by mnm213 on Dec 8, 2009 19:35:13 GMT -5
I watch Raw for MVP, The Miz, Jack Swagger, Maryse and Evan Bourne. I can say Miz and Maryse are being used good, can't say the same for the other three. MVP should be main eventing on Smackdown by now, Evan Bourne should be a former ECW Champion by now and Jack Swagger should be in Sheamus' spot. I'm sick and tired of all these guys' characters changing, just because Raw's creative team has beans for brains and can't continue the direction that Smackdown had them in.
MVP is a cocky guy, who talked his way into the highest paid contract. He isn't an ex-con who "came across some money" and worked hard to get where he is. He isn't even the highest paid superstar on Raw anymore. What's wrong with them? They completely took everything away from MVP's character and made it crap - they cut the intro of his music, took away his tunnel, cut his sleeves off and tagged him with Mark f&cking Henry.
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Post by TheBigThing on Dec 8, 2009 19:37:19 GMT -5
Evan Bourne could be and should be Raw's Rey Mysterio.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2009 19:39:35 GMT -5
Why do people bitch about the fact he isnt wearing sleeves anymore? Yeah that totally means they are trying to bury him. Dude wasnt getting over enough on his own. Teaming with Henry is working for him and they are a decent tag team. MVP main eventing PPVs is not going to sell tickets.
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Post by Jord on Dec 8, 2009 19:40:39 GMT -5
RAW has a fantastic roster but they fail to utilize it properly. It's the same sh*t week in, week out. The main reasons I will actually watch RAW are to see Evan Bourne, Jack Swagger, The Miz, Maryse and Chris Jericho. Worst thing about that is Jericho is a SmackDown guy, Bourne jobs, Swagger hasn't done anything lately and Maryse.. well, she's awesome. SmackDown and ECW are where it's at!
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Post by mnm213 on Dec 8, 2009 19:44:08 GMT -5
Why do people bitch about the fact he isnt wearing sleeves anymore? Yeah that totally means they are trying to bury him. Dude wasnt getting over enough on his own. Teaming with Henry is working for him and they are a decent tag team. MVP main eventing PPVs is not going to sell tickets. Because MVP's jumpsuit looked nice and was actually unique, now he looks like everybody else. And I love how people use the "that won't sell tickets" excuse, and SHEAMUS main eventing, will?  . If they build him up to be a threat to the title enough, it will sell, enough said. And MVP was actually getting over on his own, the feud with Swagger was getting really good and they stopped it cause they saw they were getting bigger reactions than their top stars. They ALWAYS do this. He was about to enter a feud with Orton after Backlash and they completely ruined it by inserting Triple H in there. And then they go ahead and blackball his character by admitting he was in prison, god... |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2009 19:50:23 GMT -5
Why do people bitch about the fact he isnt wearing sleeves anymore? Yeah that totally means they are trying to bury him. Dude wasnt getting over enough on his own. Teaming with Henry is working for him and they are a decent tag team. MVP main eventing PPVs is not going to sell tickets. Because MVP's jumpsuit looked nice and was actually unique, now he looks like everybody else. And I love how people use the "that won't sell tickets" excuse, and SHEAMUS main eventing, will? . If they build him up to be a threat to the title enough, it will sell, enough said. And MVP was actually getting over on his own, the feud with Swagger was getting really good and they stopped it cause they saw they were getting bigger reactions than their top stars. They ALWAYS do this. He was about to enter a feud with Orton after Backlash and they completely ruined it by inserting Triple H in there. And then they go ahead and blackball his character by admitting he was in prison, god... People arent ording TLC to see Sheamus/Cena. So far it is the least interesting match on the card. Only reason hes main eventing is because there is no one else. And dont say MVP or Swagger because neither have been made to look like they could be a challenge at all. |
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Post by Jimmy on Dec 8, 2009 19:52:58 GMT -5
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Post by mnm213 on Dec 8, 2009 19:54:32 GMT -5
Because MVP's jumpsuit looked nice and was actually unique, now he looks like everybody else. And I love how people use the "that won't sell tickets" excuse, and SHEAMUS main eventing, will? . If they build him up to be a threat to the title enough, it will sell, enough said. And MVP was actually getting over on his own, the feud with Swagger was getting really good and they stopped it cause they saw they were getting bigger reactions than their top stars. They ALWAYS do this. He was about to enter a feud with Orton after Backlash and they completely ruined it by inserting Triple H in there. And then they go ahead and blackball his character by admitting he was in prison, god... People arent ording TLC to see Sheamus/Cena. So far it is the least interesting match on the card. Only reason hes main eventing is because there is no one else. And dont say MVP or Swagger because neither have been made to look like they could be a challenge at all. So, why can't MVP or Swagger be made out to be a challenge? Because they won't sell tickets? Well, put them in the "least interesting match on the card", that will do the trick  . |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2009 20:00:20 GMT -5
People arent ording TLC to see Sheamus/Cena. So far it is the least interesting match on the card. Only reason hes main eventing is because there is no one else. And dont say MVP or Swagger because neither have been made to look like they could be a challenge at all. So, why can't MVP or Swagger be made out to be a challenge? Because they won't sell tickets? Well, put them in the "least interesting match on the card", that will do the trick . Difference being Sheamus has looked like a monster, while Swagger and MVP have done recently? Dont get me wrong, Im not a fan of the idea of Sheamus main eventing, but atleast he has been made to look like a challenge. |
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Post by mnm213 on Dec 8, 2009 20:10:05 GMT -5
So, why can't MVP or Swagger be made out to be a challenge? Because they won't sell tickets? Well, put them in the "least interesting match on the card", that will do the trick . Difference being Sheamus has looked like a monster, while Swagger and MVP have done recently? Dont get me wrong, Im not a fan of the idea of Sheamus main eventing, but atleast he has been made to look like a challenge. MVP could have turned heel on Mark Henry the week before and then won the Battle Royal. Swagger could have won the battle royal and go on his usual rant about wanting to wipe off the posterboy. You don't need to be a monster to be a challenge. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2009 20:17:07 GMT -5
Difference being Sheamus has looked like a monster, while Swagger and MVP have done recently? Dont get me wrong, Im not a fan of the idea of Sheamus main eventing, but atleast he has been made to look like a challenge. MVP could have turned heel on Mark Henry the week before and then won the Battle Royal. Swagger could have won the battle royal and go on his usual rant about wanting to wipe off the posterboy. You don't need to be a monster to be a challenge. But its classic Cena fued setup. Cena has to face either a monster or a legit threat like Michaels, Trips, or Orton. He has to overcome the odds. I know there is no way in hell Sheamus wins, but as of right now hes more believeble than MVP or Swagger. Besides if youre going to have MVP turn heel then he needs to face Henry first. Now say he turned on him and we got Henry/MVP at TLC with MVP taking out Henry who is a monster himself, then yeah I could see MVP as a challenger for the Rumble. But as of right now a random turn on Henry and then a title shot wouldnt make much sense. |
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Post by mnm213 on Dec 8, 2009 20:25:45 GMT -5
MVP could have turned heel on Mark Henry the week before and then won the Battle Royal. Swagger could have won the battle royal and go on his usual rant about wanting to wipe off the posterboy. You don't need to be a monster to be a challenge. But its classic Cena fued setup. Cena has to face either a monster or a legit threat like Michaels, Trips, or Orton. He has to overcome the odds. I know there is no way in hell Sheamus wins, but as of right now hes more believeble than MVP or Swagger. Besides if youre going to have MVP turn heel then he needs to face Henry first. Now say he turned on him and we got Henry/MVP at TLC with MVP taking out Henry who is a monster himself, then yeah I could see MVP as a challenger for the Rumble. But as of right now a random turn on Henry and then a title shot wouldnt make much sense. But if he won the battle royal, it would make sense. I don't remember a PPV match with Primo and Carlito. And I believe Cena faced Bobby Lashley, who's gimmick was an amateur wrestler powerhouse, just like Jack Swagger. Maybe one of them will face him at the Rumble, I'll wait and see but I don't think the "won't sell tickets" excuse is legit, now that he's main eventing. They could easily build up these two, as well as they have with Sheamus. All they need to do is kick Lawler in the head and beat up a jobber, and there you have it. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2009 20:31:59 GMT -5
But its classic Cena fued setup. Cena has to face either a monster or a legit threat like Michaels, Trips, or Orton. He has to overcome the odds. I know there is no way in hell Sheamus wins, but as of right now hes more believeble than MVP or Swagger. Besides if youre going to have MVP turn heel then he needs to face Henry first. Now say he turned on him and we got Henry/MVP at TLC with MVP taking out Henry who is a monster himself, then yeah I could see MVP as a challenger for the Rumble. But as of right now a random turn on Henry and then a title shot wouldnt make much sense. But if he won the battle royal, it would make sense. I don't remember a PPV match with Primo and Carlito. And I believe Cena faced Bobby Lashley, who's gimmick was an amateur wrestler powerhouse, just like Jack Swagger. Maybe one of them will face him at the Rumble, I'll wait and see but I don't think the "won't sell tickets" excuse is legit, now that he's main eventing. They could easily build up these two, as well as they have with Sheamus. All they need to do is kick Lawler in the head and beat up a jobber, and there you have it. Well Lashley had ran through many big superstars on his way to his match with Cena. And Primo and Carlito neither amounted to anything after they broke up so that doesnt really matter. And destroying Henry would build MVP nicely. The sad thing is Noble is a better wrestler then all three of them and hes the one that should have been booked better. |
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Post by mnm213 on Dec 8, 2009 20:36:40 GMT -5
But if he won the battle royal, it would make sense. I don't remember a PPV match with Primo and Carlito. And I believe Cena faced Bobby Lashley, who's gimmick was an amateur wrestler powerhouse, just like Jack Swagger. Maybe one of them will face him at the Rumble, I'll wait and see but I don't think the "won't sell tickets" excuse is legit, now that he's main eventing. They could easily build up these two, as well as they have with Sheamus. All they need to do is kick Lawler in the head and beat up a jobber, and there you have it. Well Lashley had ran through many big superstars on his way to his match with Cena. And Primo and Carlito neither amounted to anything after they broke up so that doesnt really matter. And destroying Henry would build MVP nicely. The sad thing is Noble is a better wrestler then all three of them and hes the one that should have been booked better. Except Noble is small and a midcarder at best, where-as MVP and Swagger have/had potental to become main guys. And I'm not just saying that because I like them, I like Evan Bourne but I realize he'll never become a main eventer. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2009 20:39:30 GMT -5
Well Lashley had ran through many big superstars on his way to his match with Cena. And Primo and Carlito neither amounted to anything after they broke up so that doesnt really matter. And destroying Henry would build MVP nicely. The sad thing is Noble is a better wrestler then all three of them and hes the one that should have been booked better. Except Noble is small and a midcarder at best, where-as MVP and Swagger have/had potental to become main guys. And I'm not just saying that because I like them, I like Evan Bourne but I realize he'll never become a main eventer. Well Rey and Punk have held World titles so size doesnt really matter. Had Noble been booked right from the time he was brought back he could have been a "wrestling machine" type character. crap I would have settled for a nice IC run. |
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