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Post by TheXtremisT on Oct 30, 2010 14:08:06 GMT -5
Actually I have been a fan of TNA since 2003, and solidly and exclusively a real TNA mark since 2008 (I don't watch WWE anymore) And watching TNA over the years I can honestly say, the company is in one of the best and most interesting shape's of its life The ratings don't mean sh*t As said before, wrestling is loses its fans every year -FACT Both companies are losing the ratings, but despite that, TNA has become a better company The storylines are better, the package is better The problems at the moment is that the X Division is dying and there is still a lot of deadweight on the roster, simply put, 2 hours is not enough And despite you disagreeing with EVERYTHING we say, TNA is getting criticised more every week (good and bad), and it's definitely created more of a buzz since E + H came in I just love that every thread on here has a jackass who likes the beat of his own drum, and that we all are automatically wrong And every thread there's a jack ass blind TNA mark that thinks this company does no wrong. Ratings never mean **** to tna fans until they go up, then they all wanna say how much the company is improving Wrestling losing fans every year is a week argument for TNA. Tna was supposed to be the competiton for WWE, meaning they should at least be gaining ground on them. They're a mere fart outta Vince's ass after 10 years! WCW grew more in 2 years than TNA has in the past 10 years, and guess what, they have basically the same damn roster. I wont argue they are not a better company from where they were but they certainly aren't better storyline wise or in the area of making new stars, which is the very foundation of what a wrestling company is built on! Wow, they have better lighting, and more stars, and they've created a negative buzz! Big deal! That's all stuff they coulda done years ago with half the budget they are working with now, and less of the dead weight and more of an emphasis on the x divsion which you cited as a problem. Well excuse me for being passionate and optimistic about a company and show I love watching Let do simple maths for you: 1 company has ratings of 3.7 five years ago, but today has an average of 3.2 another has 1.0 five years ago, but today has an average of 1.2 It seems to me that WWE is losing more fans than TNA is, and YES wrestling is losing more fans And what you're forgetting is that WCW was a main rival to WWF for a very long time, they were an already well-established business during the attitude era, but they were going head to head with the WWF every week TNA isn't any of these, is still too new, and it's going head to head with other more popular and different programmes
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Post by deskjet on Oct 30, 2010 15:28:26 GMT -5
And every thread there's a jack ass blind TNA mark that thinks this company does no wrong. Ratings never mean **** to tna fans until they go up, then they all wanna say how much the company is improving Wrestling losing fans every year is a week argument for TNA. Tna was supposed to be the competiton for WWE, meaning they should at least be gaining ground on them. They're a mere fart outta Vince's ass after 10 years! WCW grew more in 2 years than TNA has in the past 10 years, and guess what, they have basically the same damn roster. I wont argue they are not a better company from where they were but they certainly aren't better storyline wise or in the area of making new stars, which is the very foundation of what a wrestling company is built on! Wow, they have better lighting, and more stars, and they've created a negative buzz! Big deal! That's all stuff they coulda done years ago with half the budget they are working with now, and less of the dead weight and more of an emphasis on the x divsion which you cited as a problem. Well excuse me for being passionate and optimistic about a company and show I love watching Let do simple maths for you: 1 company has ratings of 3.7 five years ago, but today has an average of 3.2 another has 1.0 five years ago, but today has an average of 1.2 It seems to me that WWE is losing more fans than TNA is, and YES wrestling is losing more fans And what you're forgetting is that WCW was a main rival to WWF for a very long time, they were an already well-established business during the attitude era, but they were going head to head with the WWF every week TNA isn't any of these, is still too new, and it's going head to head with other more popular and different programmes No one said you couldnt be passionate and optimistic. But when the company roller coasters up and down in storylines, reflects that in ratings, and has done so for the past 5-6 years, then hope starts to fade for some of us. If no one demands change, change won't happen, things wont improve and neither will the ratings. To think that any tv programming is beter left as is without some change is short sighted in thinking. Sadly, change isn't always good. In this case, It isn't for TNA. Furthermore you clearly ignored the statistics i gave you comparing TNA's yearly numbers and how both WWE and TNA have gone up and down. Tna and WWE have both been down since last year. The glaring thing is, that while TNA is to be the alternative, providing something better and differnt from WWE, they have yet to pull in any of the WWe fans that were lost. So although interest in wrestling is waning, as a "new" company, Tna , has done nothing to help bring about a change in the decline. If anything, they've added to the problem. Oh, and when TNA did go head to head with WWE, they averaged a.5,lol. Here's some more info for you to chew on whilst you try to formulate another counter argument without staitistics to support your claims: After strong performances on October 7 and 14 among the key male demographics on Spike TV, TNA Impact has lost ratings momentum with their core audience.
-- Thursday's Impact scored a 0.70 rating among males 18-34 for the second consecutive week. Impact scored a 1.00 rating in the same demographic on Oct. 7 and 14.
Since returning to Thursday nights in May, Impact has averaged a 0.71 rating in the m18-34 demographic. The last two Impacts, plus the Impact on Sept. 30 before the ratings surge have been right at the average.
-- Among males 18-49, Impact scored a 0.81 rating, continuing a steady decline from a 1.24 rating two weeks ago and a 0.93 rating last week.
Since returning to Thursday nights in May, Impact has averaged a 0.82 rating in the m18-34 demo. Again, Impact is back to the average after the ratings surge at the beginning of the month.
-- Overall on Thursday night, Impact was down in every demographic except for younger teen male viewers, which Spike TV is not looking to target.
Impact was up nearly 30 percent among males 12-17 compared to last week. The show was int he same range as the numbers Impact drew in the demographic earlier this month during their peak ratings period.
The spike in younger male viewers could be attributed to an increase in younger viewers in front of the TV on Thursday night. MTV's "Jersey Shore" program typically fares well among younger viewers and their season finale episode scored a 2.70 rating among teens 12-17.
-- Looking at other cable TV programming on Thursday night, Impact trailed in key demographics vs. the NBA on TNT, College Football on ESPN, comedy programming, drama programming, and was up against Game 2 of the World Series.
Game 2 last year on October 29, 2009 drew approximately 5.0 million more viewers than this year's Game 2. On that same date in 2009, Impact scored a 1.24 rating for the big Hulk Hogan announcement compared to the 1.13 rating this year. Credit: pwtorch
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2010 15:50:22 GMT -5
I dare TNA to do 4 iMPACTs and 1 PPV with no stupid storylines, no veterans, and just using the wrestlers below, and see what happens.
Abyss AJ Styles Alex Shelley Amazing Red Chris Sabin D'Angelo Dinero Desmond Wolfe Doug Williams Generation Me James Storm Jay Lethal Jeff Hardy Kaz Kurt Angle RVD Robert Roode Samoa Joe
I bet the show would be much better, and once the word spreads that it's not bollocks anymore, the ratings would rise.
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Post by cordless2016 on Oct 30, 2010 15:50:58 GMT -5
I'm not against pushing young stars, because I am tired of the same old guys on top in both companies, but the way the WWE has been doing it and who they've been pushing is no better than how TNA has been doing it.
Look at Mcintyre for example. He sucked up to Vince and Trips in the back and was pushed as McMahon's hand picked future World Champ. They had him defeat credible guys like Kane and Christian for weeks but once people realized he had no charisma and terrible mic skills, they totally stopped the push he didn't deserve in the first place because all he did was suck up to people. They made Kane and Christian look like crap because they had them job to an overrated rookie.
Jack Swagger is another guy who creative completly dropped the ball with. He got a huge MITB win out of no where and became World Champ. Besides for a win over Orton at Backlash, he never got another clean win during his title reign. He jobbed to the Big Show and when he couldn't defeat Rey Mysterio in about 10 tries, it made him look like crap. Now he is barely used on TV.
A year ago Kofi Kingston and John Morrison were literally locks to become future World Champs, but the WWE grew tired of them and just stopped pushing them for no apparent reason. Now they roam around in the mid-card w/ nothing to do.
I'm not saying that TNA is perfect, because it is far from it. I hate the way TNA is jobbing out all of the origionals to the WWE rejects. But to say that the WWE consistently pushes young guys in purposeful storylines is pretty far from the truth. The guys I just mentioned all had huge pushes and were all seen as future top guys in the WWE. But the WWE stoppped pushing all of them suddenly and in hindsight, their storylines and title runs seem pointless and confusing, especially Swagger's title run.
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Post by deskjet on Oct 30, 2010 18:22:53 GMT -5
I'm not against pushing young stars, because I am tired of the same old guys on top in both companies, but the way the WWE has been doing it and who they've been pushing is no better than how TNA has been doing it. Look at Mcintyre for example. He sucked up to Vince and Trips in the back and was pushed as McMahon's hand picked future World Champ. They had him defeat credible guys like Kane and Christian for weeks but once people realized he had no charisma and terrible mic skills, they totally stopped the push he didn't deserve in the first place because all he did was suck up to people. They made Kane and Christian look like crap because they had them job to an overrated rookie. Jack Swagger is another guy who creative completly dropped the ball with. He got a huge MITB win out of no where and became World Champ. Besides for a win over Orton at Backlash, he never got another clean win during his title reign. He jobbed to the Big Show and when he couldn't defeat Rey Mysterio in about 10 tries, it made him look like crap. Now he is barely used on TV. A year ago Kofi Kingston and John Morrison were literally locks to become future World Champs, but the WWE grew tired of them and just stopped pushing them for no apparent reason. Now they roam around in the mid-card w/ nothing to do. I'm not saying that TNA is perfect, because it is far from it. I hate the way TNA is jobbing out all of the origionals to the WWE rejects. But to say that the WWE consistently pushes young guys in purposeful storylines is pretty far from the truth. The guys I just mentioned all had huge pushes and were all seen as future top guys in the WWE. But the WWE stoppped pushing all of them suddenly and in hindsight, their storylines and title runs seem pointless and confusing, especially Swagger's title run. You keep referring to stuff that happened months ago or a year ago. The guys that got depushed, at least WWE noticed they weren't getting over and had the forethought to move beyond them. Swagger cant get himself over on the mic, Kofi had a big push, then he got injured. Morrison cant get a push becasue hes not oer enough, which I think if they turn him heel and give him a manger he would be. And you failed to see who WWE did push..the Miz, nexxus, Bryan, Cm punk. factor in WWe has a much bigger roster to work with and only a select few people that they can push at any given moment. But TNA? Jesus, they been pushing and depushing guys like styles and joe, BMI forever! they finally put the belts on MCMG after 4 years! TNA has a smaller roster and for that reason alone they should be pushing they're "younger" talent. But what do they do..they push, and have pushed WWE rejects or guys that are irrelevant and not over! WWE doesnt always push the younger gusy..kane and orton are the world champions, orton, maybe not so young but certainly not an up and comer. what WWe does do, is know what works, and goes with it and knows what doesnt work and pulls the plug when it doesnt. TNA just plows through push after irrelevant push. Nonsensical storyline after nonsensical storyline, then wants to say they do it for the fans in one breath then they have hgan and bischoff say in an interview that the fans dont' know what they want. Tna doesnt know what they want, and that's why they are in the state of misdirection that they've been since day one of their existence.
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Post by SodaGuy on Oct 30, 2010 18:31:07 GMT -5
I am amazed at how when WWE does a lower rating, WF brings up that it's because of ____ that was on at the same time, yet, when TNA went up against 3 different shows that did about 14/15 million viewers per-show, it doesn't matter. .
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Post by deskjet on Oct 30, 2010 18:38:00 GMT -5
I am amazed at how when WWE does a lower rating, WF brings up that it's because of ____ that was on at the same time, yet, when TNA went up against 3 different shows that did about 14/15 million viewers per-show, it doesn't matter. . Whatever. tna always needs an excuse instead of admitting they're product is shyt. maybe if they had something that kept people interested they wouldnt have to worry about other shows.
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Post by SodaGuy on Oct 30, 2010 18:53:44 GMT -5
I am amazed at how when WWE does a lower rating, WF brings up that it's because of ____ that was on at the same time, yet, when TNA went up against 3 different shows that did about 14/15 million viewers per-show, it doesn't matter. . Whatever. tna always needs an excuse instead of admitting they're product is shyt. maybe if they had something that kept people interested they wouldnt have to worry about other shows. ...again... the same thing can be said for WWE...
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Post by cordless2016 on Oct 30, 2010 19:16:13 GMT -5
Yes because jobbing to Cena all summer has made Nexus look good...
You need to look back at what you posted. You said that the WWE consistently pushes young stars in purposeful storylines. The examples I gave were all w/in the last few months to a year. Not that long ago. You gave examples about TNA guys that have also happened a few months to a year ago. But back to the purposeful things. The WWE has been pushing and depushing guys to. The examples I gave are all recent.
What was the purpose of Mcintyre and Swagger's pushes? Mcintrye dominated Smackdown for 2 months to now being Cody Rhodes buddy. Swagger didn't even get a start to his push. He was jobbing to Big Show and Rey right after he won the title. I ask again, in hindsight, what was the purpose of their pushes? Exactly nothing. They were pushed and depushed fasted than Styles and the rest of the TNA origionals.
Morrision may be bad on the mic, but he constantly gets some of the biggest pops in the WWE. Why they depushed him when he is so over (despite a lack of mic skills) still puzzles me. Kofi getting hurt didn't lead to his depush. He aparently botched a move in a match w/ Randy Orton and Orton complained about him. Kofi, like morrison, gets huge pops, yet is jobbing to Ziggler every week when he was feuding w/ Orton at the begining of the year, which is not that long ago.
Right now, the TNA origionals, even though they have been depushed, are in a way better position than any of the WWE guys I listed. While those WWE guys are jobbing in the mid-card, the TNA origionals are apart of the main storylne and are in Fortune w/ Ric Flair atleast doing something.
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Post by deskjet on Oct 30, 2010 19:45:26 GMT -5
Yes because jobbing to Cena all summer has made Nexus look good... You need to look back at what you posted. You said that the WWE consistently pushes young stars in purposeful storylines. The examples I gave were all w/in the last few months to a year. Not that long ago. You gave examples about TNA guys that have also happened a few months to a year ago. But back to the purposeful things. The WWE has been pushing and depushing guys to. The examples I gave are all recent. What was the purpose of Mcintyre and Swagger's pushes? Mcintrye dominated Smackdown for 2 months to now being Cody Rhodes buddy. Swagger didn't even get a start to his push. He was jobbing to Big Show and Rey right after he won the title. I ask again, in hindsight, what was the purpose of their pushes? Exactly nothing. They were pushed and depushed fasted than Styles and the rest of the TNA origionals. Morrision may be bad on the mic, but he constantly gets some of the biggest pops in the WWE. Why they depushed him when he is so over (despite a lack of mic skills) still puzzles me. Kofi getting hurt didn't lead to his depush. He aparently botched a move in a match w/ Randy Orton and Orton complained about him. Kofi, like morrison, gets huge pops, yet is jobbing to Ziggler every week when he was feuding w/ Orton at the begining of the year, which is not that long ago. Right now, the TNA origionals, even though they have been depushed, are in a way better position than any of the WWE guys I listed. While those WWE guys are jobbing in the mid-card, the TNA origionals are apart of the main storylne and are in Fortune w/ Ric Flair atleast doing something. Your getting your personal preferences mixed in with whats actually going on. Fact is young talent is consistently getting pushed in WWE. Whomever it is , they are younger, younger than what is dominating TNA programming, and they are getting pushed. WWE has, is, and continues to build stars. It's laughable that you think aj, joe are getting pushed. Let's talk laster year. last year Aj was the TNA WORLD CHAMPION. Now? He's carrying ric flairs bags and toting around a worthless title. Last year Joe was headlining ppvs. This year he's feuding with Jeff hardy one week, Matt morgan one week, Jeff jarret the next. WTF? Kaz and and Willams? Yeah, let's take them outta the x divsion to do what? Stand around and throw up the shocker symbol? Beer Money? After a great series with MCMG, what are they doing? Standing around talking like the rest of the TNA roster. Yea, TNA is really pushing their talent. The young talent is really doing something
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Post by cordless2016 on Oct 30, 2010 21:10:41 GMT -5
See now I'm questioning as to whether you actually understand others posts. When did I even say AJ and Joe were getting pushed? If you actually read posts you'd see that I simply said that there in a better position than the guys in the WWE I listed who w/in the last few months had their pushes stopped. I'll be the first to say that they have been buried pretty badly in the last year. Kinda funny though that you complained that my Swagger and Mcintyer examples were a few months ago, when your AJ example was also a few months ago.
But to say that the WWE is constantly pushing young talent for a purposful reason, as you stated earlier, couldn't be further from the truth. Both companies push young talent, but the WWE has the same problems as TNA. As I stated, Swagger, Mcintyre, Kofi, and Morrison's pushes had no purpose because they are jobbing currently to mid carders, and yes they were all being pushed hard to the main event.
Aj, Beer Money, and Kaz may be playing backround characters in Fortune, but it beats jobbing to lower midcarders like the WWE guys I listed are. They are all still a prominant part of the show and even though he should be the World Champ IMO, AJ is holding a title.
The Pope is a great example of a young guy getting a good push in TNA. The WWE gave up on him and he is now looking like a future world champ in TNA. You say Kofi's push was killed because of an injury(only part of it). The Pope was injured earlier in the year right after main eventing a PPV w/ AJ and when he came back, TNA allowed him to continue where he left off instead of having him jobber to the next "flavor of the month" as the WWE likes to do so much.
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Post by deskjet on Oct 31, 2010 1:18:17 GMT -5
See now I'm questioning as to whether you actually understand others posts. When did I even say AJ and Joe were getting pushed? If you actually read posts you'd see that I simply said that there in a better position than the guys in the WWE I listed who w/in the last few months had their pushes stopped. I'll be the first to say that they have been buried pretty badly in the last year. Kinda funny though that you complained that my Swagger and Mcintyer examples were a few months ago, when your AJ example was also a few months ago. But to say that the WWE is constantly pushing young talent for a purposful reason, as you stated earlier, couldn't be further from the truth. Both companies push young talent, but the WWE has the same problems as TNA. As I stated, Swagger, Mcintyre, Kofi, and Morrison's pushes had no purpose because they are jobbing currently to mid carders, and yes they were all being pushed hard to the main event. Aj, Beer Money, and Kaz may be playing backround characters in Fortune, but it beats jobbing to lower midcarders like the WWE guys I listed are. They are all still a prominant part of the show and even though he should be the World Champ IMO, AJ is holding a title. The Pope is a great example of a young guy getting a good push in TNA. The WWE gave up on him and he is now looking like a future world champ in TNA. You say Kofi's push was killed because of an injury(only part of it). The Pope was injured earlier in the year right after main eventing a PPV w/ AJ and when he came back, TNA allowed him to continue where he left off instead of having him jobber to the next "flavor of the month" as the WWE likes to do so much. It's pointless to argue with you because you backtrack and double talk everything you say. And refuse to see what's right in front of you all the while choosing to aknowledge only what you want. So aj, and BMI are in a better position because? They are in a group that does nothing but stand around and beat people up? How is that advancing their career? How is that displaying their wrestling skill? How are people distinguishing them as wrestlers that they can identify with? And do you even understand what a push is? A push is moving you up from one place to the next. An advancement if you will. In other words..A BETTER POSITION! Jay lethal HAD a push, but TNA dumped on that. AJ HAD a push as World champion, but they dumped on that. Pope is getting pushed into a dead end storyline that will lead to nothing becasue the heels are in control! Do you really think Immortal is gonna let a face get over? It would totally undermine their purpose. So pOpe jobs out and he's right back to where he was before...that's a great push ...Yea, that's a better place then where you were in WWE. And you omitted, as usual, the roster size difference with WWE and TNA...but that couldnt possibly have an effect on anyones push or lack there of now could it? Just because wrestlers are on tv all the time doesn't mean they are in a better spot. Every wrestler you mentioned in TNA is part of the central storyline becasue, THats' the only storyline they have going! They're too busry trying to get old men over to focus on anything else of substance like Oh maybe the Tag team divison that got all of 5 minutes or the x divsion which got all of 6 minutes. When wrestlers are involved in storylines that are moving them from where they are at to something that is gonna help make them more marketbale and identifiable, then they are in a better place. Now you tell me which, at face value sounds like a better position: Aj Styles- TNA world champion, an individual that underdogs can identify with, top face of the company or Aj styles: TNA global/tv champion, one of 7 members of fortune, a heels amongst a bunch of other heels.
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Post by thespecialone on Oct 31, 2010 4:33:47 GMT -5
The highest segment rating was the KO match. Probably some regular joes who were zapping and thought "Holly crap those are some fine *as*es!"
My point is the ratings do not demonstrate the quality of a show. Nobody cares about wrestling.
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Post by deskjet on Oct 31, 2010 6:37:17 GMT -5
The highest segment rating was the KO match. Probably some regular joes who were zapping and thought "Holly crap those are some fine *as*es!" My point is the ratings do not demonstrate the quality of a show. I agree with this, however ratings is what TNA cares so much about so it's what we have to go by. SOme TNA fans and even TNA offilcials will look at the spike in ratings around the KP segmeent and say hey we need more KO matches. Same philosphy that beleives when hogan comes out ratings go up so you need more Hogan . If TNA would focus more on delivering a good balanced product, the ratings would take care of themselves.
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Post by deskjet on Oct 31, 2010 6:44:25 GMT -5
I dare TNA to do 4 iMPACTs and 1 PPV with no stupid storylines, no veterans, and just using the wrestlers below, and see what happens. Abyss AJ Styles Alex Shelley Amazing Red Chris Sabin D'Angelo Dinero Desmond Wolfe Doug Williams Generation Me James Storm Jay Lethal Jeff Hardy Kaz Kurt Angle RVD Robert Roode Samoa Joe I bet the show would be much better, and once the word spreads that it's not bollocks anymore, the ratings would rise. If booked correctly, TNA would be in the 2,0's by years end, guaranteed. What Bisch/Russ/.Hogan fail to realize is that people dont want their alternative to be the 1990's again. They want it back to basics. Solid wrestling with meaningful storylines throughout that play our in the ring and in segements, not just in segments!
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Post by cordless2016 on Oct 31, 2010 12:27:28 GMT -5
See the thing is AJ and the origionals being on TV and apart of the central storyline, even if it is the only storyline, does put them in a better spot than the WWE guys. AJ and the origionals are playing backround characters and have been depushed. Again what you fail to realize is that I'll be the first one to say this. But again it is way better than jobbing to MVP and Rey Mysterio every week for months like Swagger is currently doing. He was a world champ a few months ago and now is barely used on TV. That diminishes the world titles value and there was no purpose for his push what so ever because he is exactly in the same spot he was in before he won the MITB. AJ isn't world champ like he was at the begining of the year, but he's not jobbing to low mid-carders either.
Your again proving my point that you don't read posts. I already stated that imo AJ should be the world champ and the top guy of the company. But atleast he has a title instead of jobbing to guys like MVP who are actual jobbers.
See this is exactly what they were doing a year ago before Hogan and Bischoff came in. They were pushing their young guys and putting on 5 star matches on impact for free. It wasn't working so they are trying something different. I hate this new Hogan-Bischoff era and wish it were back to the basics but atleast they are trying something different.
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Post by carly1988 on Oct 31, 2010 13:21:08 GMT -5
I love how people are always trying to make an excuse for TNA. Oh the ratings will go up in the next few weeks. Its gonna be tough but it will happen. Yea keep drinking that Kool Aid. Oh wait, I forgot they had to go head to head against Thursday Night Football, CSI, World Series, 700 Club, debut of Taylor Swift new video.....always SOMETHING to take those darn viewers away . Now we're going where wrestling just isnt popular. Partly correct. Yet Raw still pulls 3 TIMES THE RATINGS OF TNA.....3 TIMES....3 TIMES....3 TIMES. Its ok though. TNA knows what it's doing. As soon as those Suzanne Somers ThighMaster infomercials get taken off the air, the sky is the LIMIT for TNA!!!!! WOOOOOOOOO
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Post by 3Lephant (Naptown Icon) on Oct 31, 2010 14:53:09 GMT -5
The ratings don't effect my level of enjoyment of the show, nor should it effect anyone else. I would rather watch TNA than WWE even though they've been slacking in the wrestling department as of late.
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Post by Byron F'N Saxton Fan on Oct 31, 2010 15:14:06 GMT -5
See this is exactly what they were doing a year ago before Hogan and Bischoff came in. They were pushing their young guys and putting on 5 star matches on impact for free. It wasn't working so they are trying something different. I hate this new Hogan-Bischoff era and wish it were back to the basics but atleast they are trying something different. You mentioned him not reading your posts, but he put in one of his posts that the average rating for last year, the time you claim failed and didn't work, had a better average than the Hogan/Bischoff-era. Obviosuly "Pushing young guys and putting on five-star Matches on Impact for free" is a better stategy than Promo, Promo, short Match, Promo, Promo 7-minute Match, Promo, Knockouts Match, Promo, Promo, Main Event and "ZOMG IMPACT ON REACTION AGAIN!!1!" As for the rating, Baseball is a dieing sport, and Game 2 got a lower rating than Game 1, and isn't TNA the company who with competition, rises? We're told how TNA does their best numbers against tough competition, yet that now seems to be an excuse. TNA, RAW, How I Met Your Mother, The Office, CSI and every other show can't pass falling ratings on all the other awesome shows on at the same time, so it boils down to was Impact interesting enough for fans to watch over other shows, and apparently the answer to that is "No".
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Post by deskjet on Oct 31, 2010 15:45:10 GMT -5
See the thing is AJ and the origionals being on TV and apart of the central storyline, even if it is the only storyline, does put them in a better spot than the WWE guys. AJ and the origionals are playing backround characters and have been depushed. Again what you fail to realize is that I'll be the first one to say this. But again it is way better than jobbing to MVP and Rey Mysterio every week for months like Swagger is currently doing. He was a world champ a few months ago and now is barely used on TV. That diminishes the world titles value and there was no purpose for his push what so ever because he is exactly in the same spot he was in before he won the MITB. AJ isn't world champ like he was at the begining of the year, but he's not jobbing to low mid-carders either. Your again proving my point that you don't read posts. I already stated that imo AJ should be the world champ and the top guy of the company. But atleast he has a title instead of jobbing to guys like MVP who are actual jobbers. See this is exactly what they were doing a year ago before Hogan and Bischoff came in. They were pushing their young guys and putting on 5 star matches on impact for free. It wasn't working so they are trying something different. I hate this new Hogan-Bischoff era and wish it were back to the basics but atleast they are trying something different. You made my point again. You only want to see what you want to see. Being depushed is better? Ok Aj has a title? Oh wow, that title means about as much as the titles you can buy at toys r us. Yea, holding that and standing around and looking like he can't win on his own without help is a much better position then what swagger is in Swaggers in a comdeic role becasue he didnt get over, but at least he has a role, and he hasn't been jobbing out lately. He was a champion, it ddint work out, WWE recognized this and moved on. Obvioulsy he's important enough to WWe to have him on smackdown every week something TNA cant even do with their TV champion who should, at the very least, be featured as defending his title weekly. But yea, AJ is in a better position, even though, by your words, he's being depushed As far as the 2.0 rating, you missed the point where I said, if booked correctly. TNA ain't gonna do squat until they book it right. You saying they;re Trying something different is the equivalent to saying they are in a better position even though they are being depushed. And again, you still fail to give credit for the young talent that WWE is pushing now . Like I said, it's pointless to argue with you. You're gonna see what you want and mix your words.
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