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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2011 9:58:28 GMT -5
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Post by The Sexy Psychotic on May 22, 2011 9:07:23 GMT -5
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Post by The Boondock Syxx on May 22, 2011 9:39:35 GMT -5
i wouldnt doubt it since TDK teaser had no footage just dialogue they could probebly put that out next week if they wanted to
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Post by Noza on May 22, 2011 13:25:28 GMT -5
The Boondock Syxx is right. It wont be tagged with it in the UK, so shall have to wait until it appears online.
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Post by Oskanowski on May 22, 2011 14:21:18 GMT -5
...That don't look anything like Bane. I thought Bane's face was covered with a mask.
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Post by The Assassin on May 22, 2011 17:23:38 GMT -5
...That don't look anything like Bane. I thought Bane's face was covered with a mask. yep. and I thought Bane was a physically-imposing 6'8"... but apparently not... it seems Bane is now a regular 5'10" dude with a few muscles and some kind of halloween-dress-up-set skeleton facemask according to Nolan... i'm all for some creative license, but IMO he's crossed the line into messing with crucial character points now... but I guess the majority of people are so into the Nolanverse they don't care about little things like the actual mythology of Batman... maybe we should loose the ears and the cape from the Batsuit too... and change Alfred into a hot 18-year-old girl... since Nolan is apparently the reincarnation of our lord Bob Kane and his word is gospel... Don't get me wrong, I did like the first films, and I'm looking forward to seeing Ra's Al Ghul, Catwoman and hopefully Talia and a new Batcave... it's just I'm a big fan of the Bane character and I feel totally let down and skeptical of how it seems Nolan will be portraying the character... Bane is supposed to be a mental AND physical giant who just wants to break Batman. To cast someone so short and give him such an open, decorative mask just is ridiculous.
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Post by The Boondock Syxx on May 22, 2011 17:49:23 GMT -5
mask looks more like hannibal lector then bane i mean im not judging the actors or doubting nolan at all but if thats the final mask im not a huge fan, his whole face should be covered
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Post by CM Poor on May 22, 2011 18:03:31 GMT -5
...That don't look anything like Bane. I thought Bane's face was covered with a mask. yep. and I thought Bane was a physically-imposing 6'8"... but apparently not... it seems Bane is now a regular 5'10" dude with a few muscles and some kind of halloween-dress-up-set skeleton facemask according to Nolan... i'm all for some creative license, but IMO he's crossed the line into messing with crucial character points now... but I guess the majority of people are so into the Nolanverse they don't care about little things like the actual mythology of Batman... maybe we should loose the ears and the cape from the Batsuit too... and change Alfred into a hot 18-year-old girl... since Nolan is apparently the reincarnation of our lord Bob Kane and his word is gospel... Don't get me wrong, I did like the first films, and I'm looking forward to seeing Ra's Al Ghul, Catwoman and hopefully Talia and a new Batcave... it's just I'm a big fan of the Bane character and I feel totally let down and skeptical of how it seems Nolan will be portraying the character... Bane is supposed to be a mental AND physical giant who just wants to break Batman. To cast someone so short and give him such an open, decorative mask just is ridiculous. You act like this is the furthest Nolan has strayed from the source material thus far.
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Post by The Future on May 22, 2011 18:05:31 GMT -5
...That don't look anything like Bane. I thought Bane's face was covered with a mask. yep. and I thought Bane was a physically-imposing 6'8"... but apparently not... it seems Bane is now a regular 5'10" dude with a few muscles and some kind of halloween-dress-up-set skeleton facemask according to Nolan... i'm all for some creative license, but IMO he's crossed the line into messing with crucial character points now... but I guess the majority of people are so into the Nolanverse they don't care about little things like the actual mythology of Batman... maybe we should loose the ears and the cape from the Batsuit too... and change Alfred into a hot 18-year-old girl... since Nolan is apparently the reincarnation of our lord Bob Kane and his word is gospel... Don't get me wrong, I did like the first films, and I'm looking forward to seeing Ra's Al Ghul, Catwoman and hopefully Talia and a new Batcave... it's just I'm a big fan of the Bane character and I feel totally let down and skeptical of how it seems Nolan will be portraying the character... Bane is supposed to be a mental AND physical giant who just wants to break Batman. To cast someone so short and give him such an open, decorative mask just is ridiculous. Because this is definitely how Bane is going to look in his full glory, right? You've seen the final cut of the film already, and it's affected the performances of all the major actors and the story? We still haven't seen him in full costume- just as we got the teaser for Heath and Joker & everyone was crying "But omagaz, he's not Perma-white!". It was still one of the most chilling and spot on embodiments of the Joker as a CHARACTER of all time. His core values, philosophy and crazy traits were all still intact, and yet Nolan took the character that's been around for decades, twisted it, did his own thing and made it fresh and new again. Give it time, man...don't comdemn it all yet.
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Post by CM Poor on May 22, 2011 18:08:13 GMT -5
Actually, you know what? If The Assassin hated Ledger's Joker, Neeson's Ducard/Al Guhl, and Murphy's Scarecrow, based on how they strayed from the mythology, then I'd be willing to give him a free pass on his preemptive hate on.
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Post by MuffFuzz on May 22, 2011 18:08:30 GMT -5
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Post by The Boondock Syxx on May 22, 2011 20:38:18 GMT -5
finally someone did some fan art that whats im talking about i am not condemning this role or movie or nolan i just hope that thats is not final i just dont wanna see that much of banes face
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Post by JTG on May 22, 2011 23:12:10 GMT -5
As a huge Batman fan, I have little to no problems with what Nolan has done so far in his universe. While the films at points have strayed from the comics, the changes aren't enough for me to get all upset about them. Things that would piss me off are changes such as overall personality traits(e.g., Bane in Batman & Robin, Two-Face in Batman Forever) or gender changes (thankfully this hasn't happened yet). Honestly though, everything has worked out in the Nolan Batman Universe thus far and I have absolute faith in what Nolan is creating for this movie.
I'm also positive that camera work will significantly alter how Tom Hardy looks as Bane on film.
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Post by The Assassin on May 23, 2011 13:33:01 GMT -5
yep. and I thought Bane was a physically-imposing 6'8"... but apparently not... it seems Bane is now a regular 5'10" dude with a few muscles and some kind of halloween-dress-up-set skeleton facemask according to Nolan... i'm all for some creative license, but IMO he's crossed the line into messing with crucial character points now... but I guess the majority of people are so into the Nolanverse they don't care about little things like the actual mythology of Batman... maybe we should loose the ears and the cape from the Batsuit too... and change Alfred into a hot 18-year-old girl... since Nolan is apparently the reincarnation of our lord Bob Kane and his word is gospel... Don't get me wrong, I did like the first films, and I'm looking forward to seeing Ra's Al Ghul, Catwoman and hopefully Talia and a new Batcave... it's just I'm a big fan of the Bane character and I feel totally let down and skeptical of how it seems Nolan will be portraying the character... Bane is supposed to be a mental AND physical giant who just wants to break Batman. To cast someone so short and give him such an open, decorative mask just is ridiculous. Because this is definitely how Bane is going to look in his full glory, right? You've seen the final cut of the film already, and it's affected the performances of all the major actors and the story? We still haven't seen him in full costume- just as we got the teaser for Heath and Joker & everyone was crying "But omagaz, he's not Perma-white!". It was still one of the most chilling and spot on embodiments of the Joker as a CHARACTER of all time. His core values, philosophy and crazy traits were all still intact, and yet Nolan took the character that's been around for decades, twisted it, did his own thing and made it fresh and new again. Give it time, man...don't comdemn it all yet. Well Hardy is definetely still going to be around 5'10" in the film... the quality of his performance is irrelevant, I'm not knocking Hardy's acting skills or his muscles... the simple fact is physically he is too short for the part. even if they use shoe lifts and clever perspective, he's not going to look anywhere near big enough. And it's perfectly fair to assume the mask they show in a publicity shot of Bane will be how the mask looks in the film. If by some miracle they change Bane's mask to a non-decorative full-head version for the final film, I'll be the first one to retract my statements... But how often do studios release publicity photos of a character then drastically change the look? Barely ever. I don't need to see the final film or the performances or the full costume. Bane's height is completely wrong, and the essence of his mask is completely wrong. The actor performances, cut of the film or the rest of his costume will not in any way improve his height or mask. Which is where my only problem with the film so far lies. I'm not condemming the entire film, as I said, I'm looking forward to seeing Ra's Al Ghul, Catwoman and hopefully the new Batcave and Talia. All I'm saying is I feel very disappointed and skeptical with how it seems they will be portraying Bane. And for the record, I thought Ledger's Joker was a very good take on the character and an excellent performance. BUT I don't think it was anywhere near as "perfect" as most people make it out to be. He didn't make enough jokes to depict the true comic book Joker. And personally I still think Mark Hamill's BTAS Joker depiction is the closest to the comic book version in essence. But that's just my opinion... the point is I still believe Ledger's/Nolan's creative license was within acceptable limits for Joker, and I still consider Ledger's Joker to be a valid depiction of the character. Same with Neeson's Ra's and Murphy's Scarecrow. Perfectly good and acceptable depictions of the characters in my opinion. The creative changes to the characters were within what I consider acceptable limits and it worked for me. So again, I'm NOT implying that the whole Batman 3 film will suck. Far from it. The point I'm making is that for me, Bane's height and the essence of his mask are crucial parts of his character, and in my opinion Nolan has overstepped his creative license with those points in his depiction of the character.
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Post by Suckasays on May 23, 2011 13:42:16 GMT -5
It's very likely that I will ultimately like this movie. But to be honest, I'm completely underwhelmed at the idea of the main villains being Bane and a returning Rahs Al Ghul. Catwoman might be ok, but I honestly feel like she'll have a very minor role.
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Post by noir on May 23, 2011 14:03:14 GMT -5
Honestly. I think Bane looks ridiculous. There, I said it.
First off, I'm a HUGE fan of Christopher Nolan and I think Begins and TDK were great movies. However, they worked so well because they existed in our universe. Yes, some suspension of disbelief is required for the fear toxin, or Batman's gliders, but it was nothing too far fetched. A great juxtaposition to the other comic book films of our era (such as Spiderman) which stuck to the source material and was mere science fiction. Bane, however, just isn't the sort of character who can exist here, or rather, exist well. Either we get a watered down, Nolanverse version (which is what the picture seems to signify) and thus all the positive essence of Bane's character will be lost. No ridiculous muscles, no mysterious mask and no venom. Or, we do get that and inversely, the positive essence of the Nolanverse is lost. Topless man runs around Gotham trying to kill Batman. Perhaps it's just that, as an avid Batman fan, I've never liked the character of Bane. But honestly, if they'd stuck to a character more grounded in reality (Black Mask, Riddler, Penquin, Calendar man would all be great. I may be in the minority, but I'd also love to see Two Face return), I'd feel a lot more positive about this movie. As is, I really don't see it living up to either of the previous movies.
Nolan's awesome, but he can do wrong. Inception wasn't that good.
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Post by The Assassin on May 23, 2011 14:07:32 GMT -5
It's very likely that I will ultimately like this movie. But to be honest, I'm completely underwhelmed at the idea of the main villains being Bane and a returning Rahs Al Ghul. Catwoman might be ok, but I honestly feel like she'll have a very minor role. aside from my recent disapproval/skepticism of how it seems bane will be portrayed, actually I was very happy with the villain selection when it was announced. I loved Ra's Al Ghul in Begins, and I was always hoping to see the character return in a future film. I never thought it would happen though. Although I'm disappointed Neeson most likely won't be appearing, I still can't wait to see the character return, and I really really hope Nolan has some kind of resurrection/Lazurus pit story in there somewhere. Some people say it wouldn't be realistic, but I disagree. I think as long as it's made clear that the supernatural elements are simply a BELIEF of the new Ra's and his followers, and it's never definitively showed to be false or true, it can easily and realistically fit into Nolan's universe. i mean in the real world, loads of people have religious and spiritual beliefs that don't fit into current scientific understanding. I'll be very disappointed if Lazurus pits and Ra's resurrection isn't referenced at all. and I'll be furious if they just take some kind of cheap shortcut like saying the new Ra's is simply the original Ra's son or something... and Catwoman too, although I liked Michelle Pffiefer's version, I'm a big fan of the character and would like to see a different take on it. I can't comment on Hathaway's acting skills as I haven't really seen her in anything, but I think physically she looks the part at least. The performance/depiction of the character is crucial though, so I can't give any opinion on that yet. Like I said, with Bane I'm very disappointed/skeptical of how it seems the character will be portrayed. But forgetting that for a second, I was definetely pleased with his selection as a villain for the film. I'm a big fan of the character and obviously the BAR portrayal was abysmal, so I would really like to see a decent portrayal of the mental and physical giant that is Bane. Seems I'll have to wait a while longer for that one though... I also think it would be interesting to see Talia, although I'm not sure putting her in the same film as Catwoman will work. Would have been better to have included Talia in one of the first two films instead of the generic, boring, and largely irrelevant "Rachel"... ugh... Another thing I mentioned earlier was I'm looking forward to hopefully seeing a brand new revamped Batcave. The first film's Batcave was understandably lacklustre, but it did make sense. The hangar thing in the second film was pretty dumb, but again, it kinda made sense. It's now time we saw a proper kitted-out Batcave though. So I hope Nolan doesn't disappoint there. I'd like to see a more updated/designed Batmobile too. Like with the cave, the basic model made sense in the first two films, but it's time for an update now. Honestly. I think Bane looks ridiculous. There, I said it. First off, I'm a HUGE fan of Christopher Nolan and I think Begins and TDK were great movies. However, they worked so well because they existed in our universe. Yes, some suspension of disbelief is required for the fear toxin, or Batman's gliders, but it was nothing too far fetched. A great juxtaposition to the other comic book films of our era (such as Spiderman) which stuck to the source material and was mere science fiction. Bane, however, just isn't the sort of character who can exist here, or rather, exist well. Either we get a watered down, Nolanverse version (which is what the picture seems to signify) and thus all the positive essence of Bane's character will be lost. No ridiculous muscles, no mysterious mask and no venom. Or, we do get that and inversely, the positive essence of the Nolanverse is lost. Topless man runs around Gotham trying to kill Batman. Perhaps it's just that, as an avid Batman fan, I've never liked the character of Bane. But honestly, if they'd stuck to a character more grounded in reality (Black Mask, Riddler, Penquin, Calendar man would all be great. I may be in the minority, but I'd also love to see Two Face return), I'd feel a lot more positive about this movie. As is, I really don't see it living up to either of the previous movies. Nolan's awesome, but he can do wrong. Inception wasn't that good. :0 While I agree that Nolan's Bane does look ridiculous and the essence of the character has been compromised/ruined, I disagree that Bane can't exist in the Nolanverse. I don't think it's too far fetched that a highly intelligent man could exist who gains incredible strength and even some kind of height growth from some kind of super-steroid or other man-made enhancement. I'm not saying that could happen in real life of course, but I think it's a reasonable stretch for the Nolanverse. Sadly it seems Nolan is sticking too-closely to the real world for Bane though. So it seems we will get a 5'10" muscleman in a halloween mask running around Gotham, and looking ridiculous, like you say.
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on May 23, 2011 16:02:23 GMT -5
It's very likely that I will ultimately like this movie. But to be honest, I'm completely underwhelmed at the idea of the main villains being Bane and a returning Rahs Al Ghul. Catwoman might be ok, but I honestly feel like she'll have a very minor role. I think she's going to be more of an anti-hero than an actual villain. I can't see her having a minor role, nor do I want to. I've been dying for Catwoman to finally be in these movies, I really don't want to be disappointed by having her play a small part. I'm pretty sure Selena Kyle is going to be Bruce's main love interest in this movie. Also, is Hugo Strange still going to be in this movie?
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Post by MuffFuzz on May 23, 2011 17:02:02 GMT -5
You guys do realize Micheal Keaton played Batman right? He didn't look the part either and got a lot of negative feedback when he was cast; just like Hardy is now, but he turned out pretty good. At least give Hardy props for looking the part, he's actually pretty decked out in that teaser pic. So far he looks believable and capable of "breaking the bat". Let's just wait on this whole "height issue" until we either see more pics, or we see him in action in the film.
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on May 23, 2011 17:16:09 GMT -5
You guys do realize Micheal Keaton played Batman right? He didn't look the part either and got a lot of negative feedback when he was cast; just like Hardy is now, but he turned out pretty good. At least give Hardy props for looking the part, he's actually pretty decked out in that teaser pic. So far he looks believable and capable of "breaking the bat". Let's just wait on this whole "height issue" until we either see more pics, or we see him in action in the film. People said the same thing about Ledger when he was cast to play the Joker.
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