JedsWorld
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Post by JedsWorld on Jan 10, 2012 18:13:59 GMT -5
 I just wanted to create a post explaining something to those people who are bitching and moaning about the current Kane/Cena/Ryder storyline on RAW. From my standpoint, they have "resurrected" Kane as a monster once again, and want him to be scary to the younger members of the audience. What better way to do this than by taking out 2 of the top baby faces on Raw, John Cena and Zack Ryder! The people on here that and whining about the story being "stupid and cheesy" are obviously too old to enjoy it for how it's being presented, but when you where younger you where probably freaked out by some characters and story lines. Let me give you some examples... Papa Shango's curse on the Ultimate Warrior: Undertaker & Paul Bearer tries to enbalm Stone Cold: Back then when events like these happened, if we were younger at the time we were pretty freaked out! And now in 2012... Obviously we know that Kane can't shoot fire from the ring, and Papa Shango can't make black goo pour from the Warrior's head... but this is the WWE, it's a larger than life show with over the top antics. The WWE tries to cater for all audiences, young and old and presenting Kane as a scary monster thats trying to take out Cena and Ryder is an execelt move on their part. Just let the storyline play out and even if your not enjoying it, the younger members of the audience are buying it and some may even be scared of Kane. Thats my two cents, now stop moaning just because every segment of the show doesn't suit you! P.s. I thought "The Funkasaurus" Brodus Clay was hilarious!
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Post by jasonphoenix1 on Jan 10, 2012 18:18:40 GMT -5
I actually like this story line right now. I am not and probably never will be a John Cena fan. But because of this angle I am watching more of him. I love how Kane is talking now a little more slow not yelling as much either which I think it would scare kids more to yell every once in a while. But I think it is a great story line.
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Post by facemeat on Jan 10, 2012 18:24:25 GMT -5
Agreed 100%. However, I'm never too old to enjoy these type of storylines. I'd rather see a storyline that's way out there vs. one that's trying to seem realistic. It's all scripted, and we all know that, so why does it really matter if it's realistic or not? |
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Post by Robert69 on Jan 10, 2012 18:28:55 GMT -5
Uh...."you people"? What exactly do you mean by that?
Jk bro...no I actually like these over the top things, personally I would have rather had Kane be a mute again and someone speak for him, but that's neither here or there. I like his look, I like the story so far, and Cena's character may ultimately change because of it. All of which, pleases me.
I'm not a Cena hater, but I'm just bored with him. Even Austin and Rock had their times as heels. Let's do something different with "The Champ". Punk and Ryder can carry the babyface flag for a year.
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Post by 1992 on Jan 10, 2012 18:31:43 GMT -5
It's reasons like this (not the thread, just what you're pointing out) that I went from posting on here 10-15 times a day, to barely lurking anymore. Love how 90% of the board goes full intellectually- disabled person after every episode of Raw. Chris mother  ing Jericho...CHRIS ING JERICHO is back, most likely full time, and we have a good chunk of people raging quitting on him after 2 episodes because he's trying to break-out a new character, something that a majority of these people will probably consider "ZOMG EPIC!" in a month or so when it takes off and we'll see sigs flooding the place. And it's even crazier to me that the World Heavyweight Champion Daniel Bryan (which is an insane through in itself) completely squashed Tag Champ Kofi Kingston in like a minute in a half....yet the hot topic for discussion is that Brodus Clay danced instead of trudged down in generic black singlet with generic stock music and squashed "local talent, Terry Tommy" in a 2 minutes, so now the WWE is ruined forever. And the Kane/Cena/Ryder storyline... 1. "Push Ryder!!!" 'main event push' "Hmmmm...no not that push! WE WANT A NEW PUSH!" 2. "Turn Cena heel!" 'blatantly laying the grounds for a future heel turn' "OMG WASTE OF TIME HE'LL NEVER EVER IN ONE BATRILLIONZILLION YEARS TURN HEEL!" 3. Put the mask back on Kane!" 'masked Kane emerges' "No not that mask! And don't act that way! Act this way!" Nice. I'll be the first to admit the Cena/Ryder/Kane angle is a little tedious, but some of the reasons for it are hilarious. I love everyone whining about Kane "stalking menacingly in the background" like that's something new that he nor a dozen other superstars haven't done before. And now it's everyone's acting abilities. Yeah that's it! Ryder's not classical training in the arts! BOOOOOOOOO. The problem with this place is that a majority of people have the attention span of a kitten...no a take it back, that's insulting to kittens. And over-analyze and grasp at straws with the WWE more than Twilight fangirls EVER did with Breaking Dawn or New Moon. Nobody has any goddamn patience, thinks they're experts on everything ever, and demand instant gratification from show to show to show. |
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JedsWorld
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Post by JedsWorld on Jan 10, 2012 18:34:02 GMT -5
Uh...."you people"? What exactly do you mean by that?Jk bro...no I actually like these over the top things, personally I would have rather had Kane be a mute again and someone speak for him, but that's neither here or there. I like his look, I like the story so far, and Cena's character may ultimately change because of it. All of which, pleases me. I'm not a Cena hater, but I'm just bored with him. Even Austin and Rock had their times as heels. Let's do something different with "The Champ". Punk and Ryder can carry the babyface flag for a year. I consider myself better than all of you.  Ha, no I mean the people that moan about everything WWE does, granted everyone is entitled to their opinion and can like and hate whatever they like, but still. |
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Post by Oskanowski on Jan 10, 2012 18:34:13 GMT -5
....That's because they were original 10 years ago. Everything you're seeing now has already been done.
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Post by @3CountRadio on Jan 10, 2012 18:37:14 GMT -5
....That's because they were original 10 years ago. Everything you're seeing now has already been done. And wrestling has been around for over 100 years. Get over it. |
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Post by MacReady on Jan 10, 2012 18:38:00 GMT -5
Amen.
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Post by JedsWorld on Jan 10, 2012 18:46:33 GMT -5
....That's because they were original 10 years ago. Everything you're seeing now has already been done. ... And your point is? With the odd occasion of one or two "completey new and never before seen" storylines, everything has been done before. WWE's a weekly running show, it's one of the hardest jobs in the world to keep writing new material year, after year, after year... that's why they re-use some ideas from the past and change them slightly. |
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Post by Phantom on Jan 10, 2012 18:51:46 GMT -5
Kane and Cena are basically feuding over the reaction Cena gets. And adding Ryder & Eve to mix doesnt do it any favors. Plus the end of this feud is blatantly obvious. Cena is going to beat Kane and move on to The Rock. I want to like it but I dont. Thats my opinion though.
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Post by jammer311 on Jan 10, 2012 18:52:28 GMT -5
The Kane/Cena story line is actually one of the only things I enjoy right now about Raw, and that's saying a lot being that Cena is involved in it.
I don't entirely know if it's gonna turn Cena heel, but I think it's gonna turn Cena into a more violent wrestler, thus giving him that fire he needs when he faces Rocky at Wrestlemania.
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Post by ztj_wwf on Jan 10, 2012 18:52:34 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but this is a God awful storyline...CM Punk, being WWE Champion, should be the main focus of the show and going on last, not this awful piece of crap. Cena and Kane by itself is alright, but with Zack Ryder and Eve? Awful.
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Post by jammer311 on Jan 10, 2012 18:55:01 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but this is a God awful storyline...CM Punk, being WWE Champion, should be the main focus of the show and going on last, not this awful piece of crap. Cena and Kane by itself is alright, but with Zack Ryder and Eve? Awful. Maybe so if CM Punk was actually a worth while champion. I just don't buy him as a champion right now. I find his promos to be boring and constantly the same. He just seems to not connect with the fans as a mega star face should in my opinion. As much as you wanna hate on Cena (which we all do) you have to admit, the girls and the kiddies love the guy! Punk has his fans too, that being marks who know of him from ROH, and guys who wanna somehow relive the attitude era. Well, CM Punk isn't that guy. |
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Post by jakks1996collector on Jan 10, 2012 18:57:12 GMT -5
This storyline is useless.
Wish we could just get on with the long-awaited Jericho/Punk feud, the Rock/Cena feud started back up, and HHH/Undertaker/HBK streak/career ending match thing.
Even as a young kid, I thought most of the 1998-2001 storylines similar to the Kane/Cena one were stupid. Backstage brawl/attack segments were good and groundbreaking in the early 90's. TNA's product would outshine WWE's on a weekly basis if not for their stupid backstage fighting segments.
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Post by TurboEddie on Jan 10, 2012 19:34:04 GMT -5
I don't think it's all that bad.
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Post by Lk™ on Jan 10, 2012 19:38:02 GMT -5
....That's because they were original 10 years ago. Everything you're seeing now has already been done. and we were also more gullable and enjoyed it more. |
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Post by IRS on Jan 10, 2012 19:50:59 GMT -5
The thing between Kane & Ryder last night reminded me of the Taker/Orton feud in '05 where Taker was stalking Orton all night before he attacked him.
Anyway I don't see how anyone can complain about WWE right now I mean look at what's going on right now.
Barrett, Ziggler, and Rhodes are getting good pushes.
Masked Kane has returned as a monster.
CM Punk and Daniel Bryan are World Champions.
Zack Ryder got himself over and pushed.
Y2J has returned and is doing a great job F-ing with everybody.
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Post by juicewinslow on Jan 10, 2012 19:59:10 GMT -5
I thought the Ultimate Warrior/Papa Shango storyline was corny when I was 10 years old... and I still think it's corny today.
Also - disliking something that is going on does not always = "bitching and moaning". Some of us know how to dislike something without throwing a temper tantrum. So don't single all of us out as "bitching and moaning".
Thanks. - Management
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Jan 10, 2012 20:10:33 GMT -5
i agree entirely
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