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Post by BCizzle on Jun 21, 2012 21:58:39 GMT -5
I have used ebay and amazon to grab some stuff I missed out on, didn't start on mattels until like June of 2011 so it was necessary to get some of the older stuff...sucks but thats how it is, I can deal with that...but what really sucks now is when you actively check multiple retail locations and still can't find what you want. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me that these short packed figs couldn't be offered on matty collector or mattel shop, that way when retail gets flooded with all those cenas/ortons/reys that sell so well there would still be an option. I swear its as if they don't want our money sometimes... I know that Ringside would be very happy with more collector friendly cases, they have said so in the past. Mattel seems to somehow succeed despite it's incompetence sometimes. And I'm not talking about the sculptors and designers, they have kicked (mostly) major ass. The business side, however, seems pretty dopey.
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Post by PJ on Jun 21, 2012 22:08:59 GMT -5
I've said it in the past and say it again...Mattel should keep the case packouts like they are for mass retailers, but offer the online retailers like RSC solid case packouts like they did with the DCUC for a while. This way RSC could pass on (or at least order alot less) the eventual pegwarmers like Rey/Cena/Orton/Taker. Yet the mass retailers like TRU/Target/WalMart/etc could still have their heavy cases of the "Main popular guys" that they like having on their pegs.
This way mass retail gets the cases they want, but RSC would also get what they want and wouldn't have to charge so much on the "hot" guys like Nash/Yoko because they'd have plenty and wouldn't be stuck trying to make up sale for all the pegwarmers they normally get stuck with.
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Post by champofakind on Jun 21, 2012 22:19:47 GMT -5
I don't even bother with retail anymore. The last time I bought a figure from a store was in november. I just order off RSC or Amazon now. If its a reasonable price. And I really don't collect as much anymore I buy a figure now about every 3 or 4 months sometimes longer. My newest figure is the series 20 Wade Barrett which is amazing btw.
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Post by Blackbird 13 on Jun 22, 2012 3:43:21 GMT -5
I still don't understand this theory. If Walmart sells you an Elite for 16.98 (or whatever it is), I hope you realize that Walmart is "scalping" you.. because they didn't pay that much for it. I know with Jakks Classic Superstars, Walmart sold them for like $12 each... they cost Walmart something like $8-$9. They were scalping you too. The country I live in (America) is BASED on capitalism. Buying and selling. And if someone makes an Elite 11 CM Punk cost $60? Well, don't buy it! Then they'll have to make the price something people will pay. If they sell it for $60, though.. then obviously, that's what the market has determined is the value for that figure. The best part of your rant? "Get a real job".. where? What company do you think you can work for that doesn't in some way buy things cheap and sell them for a higher profit? Other than some service industries.. that's how this country (and Walmart, Kmart, TRU, Roses, Food Lion, Burger King, Wendys, McDonalds, Ross, Kohls, Gamestop, and all the rest of the retail places) makes money and operates. Is it stupid when someone has an Eziekel Jackson Elite 16 online for $150 Buy It Now? Well.. yes.. but if I had one, and I knew that someone would pay that for it? Yeah.. mine would be on eBay too. As far as buying online.. I have bought a few figures online lately, but they've been mostly older Jakks figures. I was NOT able to find Micheal McGillicutty at retail, so I did end up having to pay $20 to get him. That hurt a bit, but it's supply and demand, so what can you do? Not a lot of Walmarts in NYC. I have Kmarts and the Time Square Toys R Us. Stores like Walmart and Kmart normally sell their items at suggested retail prices. I'll use Kmart as an example because I have one on my street that I walk to. You see, Kmart is a convenience to me on several other things other than action figures. They're open late, they have employees who can help me, and since I like Kmart I'm willing to pay a little extra on items so they can pay their rent and have electricity for lights and air conditioning. A scalper on the other hand is a cockroach to society. Scalpers go to the same stores I go to, and buy things I want so they can resell them for 10x the price if they feel like. Capitalism wasn't founded on selling Elite 11 CM Punk's for $95, no matter how you stretch it and no matter how much some idiots are willing to pay. Buying up supplies of everything and reselling for ridiculous prices is not capitalism. That's being an assshole. By the way, scalping isn't a real job. Which is why I suggested them to get real jobs. If they had real jobs they would make a lot more money and could quit making petty cash on action figures. I know this, because I have scalped things when I was younger. I bought a PS3 the year they came out for Christmas and they were impossible to find in stores. I bought it just so I could sell it. But those were different times, I was a poor kid then and it seemed like easy cash. Scalping crap like that now is ing waste of time. Now I don't live in Virginia, maybe it's rough down there and that's what people have to do to make ends meet. In my area, we have more collectors around here than scalpers it seems. I'm just saying that you people are getting all worked up about people doing to you the SAME THING that a store is doing to you. Kmart does it. Walmart does it. Amazon does it. TRU does it. Ringside does it. ALL OF THEM do it. It's the way business works. AND, we'll go back to the other statement I made. If the figures aren't worth that much, then it'll work itself out, because the "scalper" won't sell that figure at the price they want. You talk about Kmart's costs.. but look at it from a scalper's point of view. You take your time to get to a store early to get a number of things that are going to sell for a premium.. spending your gas to run around to a few different places... I totally understand WHY these guys are selling higher, they're trying to make a profit on the expense, after all (again, the same as Kmart, Ringside, Walmart, etc). I also don't understand you saying "if they had real jobs". Who's to say that "scalping" isn't a "real job". I would say whatever keeps rent paid and the lights on is a "real job" in this economy, and I know for a fact that some of them do make that happen. I'm not a scalper, but I have bought "premium" figures solely to trade or sell on this board, and if they don't trade or sell on this board, I'd have no problem putting them on eBay at retail plus my shipping, with the hope that they'd go higher. I'm not saying that it doesn't suck when all the good figures are gone as you get to the store. I literally missed the Otunga/McGillicutty pack by a matter of 2 hours or so at TWO different Walmarts. But.. that's how it goes, and if that's how the market has decided supply and demand goes, than so be it. No need to get worked up because someone else scored on it.. it just wasn't my turn to win.
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Post by Blackbird 13 on Jun 22, 2012 3:46:25 GMT -5
The difference is that Toys R Us, Target, etc have retailers licenses and do not go cherrypicking particular figures from entire sets I'm not sure what a "retailer's license" is. Some scalpers have business licenses. There is a well known LEGIT toy selling WEBSITE that is pretty much all scalpers. And make no mistake about it.. TRU, Target, etc. don't have the data on which characters sell through and which shelfwarm (because Mattel uses the same UPCs on each series).. but if they did, they'd probably insist that they get to cherrypick. And stores like Ringside and the other online retailers would also probably love to be able to cherrypick cases. Do any of these retailers REALLY want to order as many E16 Ortons as they do E16 Slaters, Nashs, Diesels, or Jacksons?
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Post by fallbrawl on Jun 22, 2012 9:10:12 GMT -5
Most of the time i just keep checking the local retail stores and try to find the figure some other way. I did finally cave and bought an elite flashback papa shango from ebay when he first came out. I paid $42.00 shipped for him. i found him at retail After i bought mine from ebay i have seen him 3 times at retail.
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Post by yakester21 on Jun 22, 2012 9:21:04 GMT -5
I'll try to find them at retail....I did make my 1st trade with chewdeezy recently....so I'm going to tend to try thru classifieds now.....
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