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Post by el torro on Apr 6, 2016 21:21:59 GMT -5
You guys think the POV we saw from the van throughout the episode is the same POV (person) that got the bat? I mentioned that a few days ago. Seems more than likely it was Glenn's. Apparently 70% of Twitter reactions was negative towards the finale. Some might say who cares, but they do promote a lot of social media involvment with the show, so they have to acknowledge they made a huge mistake with this.
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Post by Mr. K.O on Apr 6, 2016 21:35:48 GMT -5
You guys think the POV we saw from the van throughout the episode is the same POV (person) that got the bat? I mentioned that a few days ago. Seems more than likely it was Glenn's. Apparently 70% of Twitter reactions was negative towards the finale. Some might say who cares, but they do promote a lot of social media involvment with the show, so they have to acknowledge they made a huge mistake with this. Sucks to hear but they did this to themselves. You don't just build up the arrival of Negan and his bat for pretty much the whole entire season, and then just end it on an unnecessary cliffhanger. It's a slap in the face to the whole fan base. They had one job and they managed to it up.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2016 6:46:39 GMT -5
Have to say after watching it a couple of times, I love JDM as Negan. LOVE.
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Post by King Richius on Apr 9, 2016 16:52:28 GMT -5
well, here we go.... they didn't show who got killed ,because they didn't film who died. www.tvguide.com/news/the-walking-dead-executive-producer-greg-nicotero-confirms-finale-death-hasnt-been-filmed-yet/Chandler Riggs was not exaggerating: he has no idea who died in The Walking Dead's Season 6 finale even though he was there, because the death wasn't shot. In an interview with The Hollywood Reporter, The Walking Dead's executive producer/Season 6 finale director/makeup guru Greg Nicotero was cagey about almost everything related to the future of the show. He answered "I don't know" to questions about whether Negan's victim will return at all, Maggie's health, what's the deal with Morgan's body-armored new friends, and how closely the seventh season will follow the "All Out War" arc from the comics, but he did confirm one almost unbelievable thing: The finale death hasn't been filmed yet. When asked by The Hollywood Reporter's Lesley Goldberg what he could say about who was killed off, Nicotero said, "We have not filmed it yet and I don't know if the person knows yet or not." This death is such a big secret that not only is the creative team behind The Walking Dead willing to recreate the precise logistical conditions of the last scene of Season 6, they may even be keeping it a secret from the person most affected by the to-be-revealed death. Nicotero also confirmed that he'll be directing the Season 7 premiere, whose shoot is "coming up quickly," so that death will be shot soon enough. Tags: Spring Preview, AMC, Spring TV For non-comic readers: Carol and Morgan are obviously going to the Kingdom. There they will meet Ezekiel and Shiva.
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Post by bad guy™ on Apr 9, 2016 17:09:28 GMT -5
well, here we go.... they didn't show who got killed ,because they didn't film who died. www.tvguide.com/news/the-walking-dead-executive-producer-greg-nicotero-confirms-finale-death-hasnt-been-filmed-yet/Chandler Riggs was not exaggerating: he has no idea who died in The Walking Dead's Season 6 finale even though he was there, because the death wasn't shot. In an interview with The Hollywood Reporter, The Walking Dead's executive producer/Season 6 finale director/makeup guru Greg Nicotero was cagey about almost everything related to the future of the show. He answered "I don't know" to questions about whether Negan's victim will return at all, Maggie's health, what's the deal with Morgan's body-armored new friends, and how closely the seventh season will follow the "All Out War" arc from the comics, but he did confirm one almost unbelievable thing: The finale death hasn't been filmed yet. When asked by The Hollywood Reporter's Lesley Goldberg what he could say about who was killed off, Nicotero said, "We have not filmed it yet and I don't know if the person knows yet or not." This death is such a big secret that not only is the creative team behind The Walking Dead willing to recreate the precise logistical conditions of the last scene of Season 6, they may even be keeping it a secret from the person most affected by the to-be-revealed death. Nicotero also confirmed that he'll be directing the Season 7 premiere, whose shoot is "coming up quickly," so that death will be shot soon enough. Tags: Spring Preview, AMC, Spring TV For non-comic readers: Carol and Morgan are obviously going to the Kingdom. There they will meet Ezekiel and Shiva. Yeah figured that part out.
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Post by mikey1974 on Apr 10, 2016 15:24:19 GMT -5
Pretty safe to say it's not Eugene, Carl, or Rick.
- Negan says if anyone moves "Cut out the boy's other eye and feed it to his father". A pretty empty threat if it was either Rick or Carl about to die .Not to mention you know if it was Carl, Rick would jump Negan,whether he would die or not.
- When Negan says that about Carl's eye, we're already in the POV stance. when he says it, he (unintentionally?) gestures slightly to the camera's left (Negan's right), indicating Carl is to the left of the camera's point of view. Meaning whoever it is being killed is to the right of Carl, not left. And there's only one person on Carl's left : Eugene.
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Post by HHH316 on Apr 10, 2016 16:15:52 GMT -5
Any excitement for tonight's FTWD return? I'm pretty meh on this.
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Post by bad guy™ on Apr 10, 2016 16:26:13 GMT -5
Any excitement for tonight's FTWD return? I'm pretty meh on this. That show got renewed? I'm being sarcastic, but slightly literal.
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Post by King Richius on Apr 10, 2016 17:44:01 GMT -5
Any excitement for tonight's FTWD return? I'm pretty meh on this. I wouldn't call it excitement, but I will watch. Sunday nights are pretty bad for TV when its not football season.
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Post by King Richius on Apr 10, 2016 21:37:16 GMT -5
Kinda meh season 2 premiere for FTWD. Spent an hour watching eight people lounge around on an expensive yacht. It better pick up next week. On a completely different note, this seems like a good place to ask: how many of you are looking forward to Preacher? It is one of the few comics of recent years that I like more than Walking Dead so I am really looking forward to it. Saw a commercial with Arseface tonight during Talking Dead and that has me even more pumped. If the show is any good (which I think it will be), I hope we get an Official Preacher thread to chat on
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2016 23:42:25 GMT -5
I like the idea of fear the walking dead.
It gives me something else to watch when nothing at all is on.
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Post by sonstuds on Apr 11, 2016 1:31:13 GMT -5
Any excitement for tonight's FTWD return? I'm pretty meh on this. I wouldn't call it excitement, but I will watch. Sunday nights are pretty bad for TV when its not football season. Sunday nights are the GOAT if you have HBO. Apparently I'm the only person on the internet who thought FTWD was alright, but admittedly the lack of expectations probably plays a big part of that. They really need more interesting characters though. If Strand, Daniel, or Nick aren't on the screen it's pretty dull.
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Post by bad guy™ on Apr 11, 2016 6:57:54 GMT -5
I like the idea of fear the walking dead. It gives me something else to watch when nothing at all is on. Pretty much.
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Post by TheChamp420 on Apr 11, 2016 21:49:55 GMT -5
I feel like Fear started off pretty awesome, then got pretty boring awfully quick
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Post by cmiller79 on Apr 13, 2016 5:47:38 GMT -5
Fear the walking dead sucks
It don't even feel like they are in the same country as the original
No matter how many times I try I just can't get into it
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Post by IRS on Apr 13, 2016 14:03:19 GMT -5
Meh, FTWD doesn't really do anything for me. Travis and his son could be eaten the next episode for all I care. Nick and the daughter are really the only ones I like on the show. Premiere was pretty bland. Feels like they're just doing The Walking Dead: California, instead of something that sets it apart from the main show.
But, I guess it's something to watch to fill the void.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2016 21:40:00 GMT -5
I'm a little late to the party, but I wanted to share my thoughts on the season finale of TWD. Let me preface by saying that I'm one of those people who loved the show in the beginning, but then start losing interest starting with season 3 (basically, once Shane died, I felt the show started going downhill). The governor was very disappointing to me. Terminus was an awesome storyline that lasted all of 5 minutes. That seems to be a recurring theme with the Walking Dead storylines and characters. Drag out the boring ones and prematurely kill the interesting ones. Honestly, my interest in the show was on life support. I stopped watching it live. Even stopped streaming later that night. Weeks would pass before I'd catch up. Mind you this NEVER happens with a show I really love. No matter what's going on in life, I'll find a way. One may ask why I even kept watching? Mainly, it's because I had already invested too much time to just quit. Plus, there was the faintest glow of curiosity that was just strong enough to keep me going. Fast forward to this season. I never read the comics, but after losing interest in the show a few years ago I went ahead and read a few summaries on the tentpoles of the story. I was immediately intrigued with Negan. His entrance was epic and he just seemed like an awesome character. So for several years after I have been waiting for his arrival. JDM's casting was wonderful and I couldn't wait for that epic entrance. The whole season was great in building it up. I LOVED the episode where they kill all those Saviors in the outpost. The episode had a very visceral feel to it. Took me back to season 1/2 days. Now onto the finale... I wasn't surprised that they needlessly extended it another 30 minutes for the cashgrab. That's status quo with TWD. But that final scene. Not only was it the most disappointing moment of the entire series, it was a flat out slap in the faces of anyone who has and ever will watch this show. The entire season was building us up to that last episode. Then the last episode was building us up until the last moment. We were all invested and on edge. For a show that's in its later years, Negan needed a formidable entrance. After all, that is EXACTLY what he got in the comics. What makes Negan different from any villain before him is the sense of hopelessness he brings to our characters. For far too long, every villain our heroes have faced have never really scared us. You always had this assurance that everything would be okay and that they would move onto the next thing. But Negan bashes (pun intended) hope out of the equation by killing a fan favorite (I don't care if it had been the other person that everyone theorized it would be). He cements himself right from the beginning and gives you that sense that this is not a normal villain. But no, instead we got the cheapest, most bull**** copout move of the century. What really makes this bad is the fact that it wasn't necessary! Were TWD writers really that afraid that if the moment concluded that people wouldn't tune in next fall to see what happens next? Cliffhangers can sometimes be good plot devices. This is NOT one of those cases. This was just bad storytelling. Someone earlier referred to Negan's entrance as TWD's "Red Wedding Moment". And that's exactly right. But they blew it. No matter who they kill next fall, it will never have the emotional impact it would have had had it happened at the end of the episode. What really disgusts me is how the cast and crew LIED. Blatantly lied. They didn't cleverly deceive us. They lied. Andrew Lincoln (Rick) claims he was late to work for the first time in his career because of the scene. Lauren Cohan claimed she didn't want to go to work at all that day. The guy who plays Eugene said he threw his script across the room (I may actually believe this if he threw it due to its stupidity). They made it seem like this awfully intense, heartbreaking scene was coming. That's what the whole season advertised. But no... One giant lie. Now let's face facts. TWD didn't destroy their numbers. The people will still tune in. Their bottom line (money) is fine. Sadly, what they DID destroy was the integrity of finales and any kind of quotes from actors or actresses. With the all the bull**** cliffhangers TWD has pulled, their finales don't really mean anything. And clearly the cast is not above blatantly lying to hype up numbers. I really believe the show jumped the shark on this one. They'll make their money next season. But I think in the long run they will not recover from this. They WILL regret it. They blew a great story. They blew their moment. Can you imagine how much Negan would be trending had he killed one or more people violently? It could have been one of the most talked about scenes in the history of television. Once again, no matter what they do in the Fall, it won't have the same impact. It'll probably get leaked anyway. regardless, I will never get too excited for any show now. And I sure as hell won't ever believe anything any actor or actress says about a major moment, finale, or ending of any kind. TWD has been one giant ball of disappointment. So much potential. But constantly wrecked by politics and bad storytelling. I wish Frank Darabont had never been fired. I think he had a great vision for the show, but that fatass Robert Kirkman and AMC just wouldn't have it. Instead we get ridiculously stupid characters like Michonne and our cast making idiotic mistakes and repeating them endlessly. I honestly don't care who they kill. My emotional investment in this show ended for good with that "finale". I'll catch an episode here and there just to see Negan. His entrance was amazing until the cutoff. Although if I had to nitpick, I feel like he smiles and jokes around a little too much. I get that that's his character. But he was TOO "comic-booky". I wish his personality was more like Steven Ogg (Trevor how ing cool is that?!). And I don't that he doesn't say the F word every other word. Honestly I always found that aspect of Negan to be really tacky. Anyways, that's my rant. TL;DR = TWD ------------------------------------ One more thing. My dream ending of the season 6 finale... Negan kills Glenn AND Daryl. Brutally. Maggie climbs over Glenn's dead body and cries. The camera slightly pans out and we think it's over. Then Negan reenters the frame and whacks Maggie in the back of the head and THEN it cuts off. Now THAT would be a real cliffhanger. And that would have topped the Red Wedding. But this is TWD we're talking about. It'll probably be Aaron who gets Lucille lol.
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Post by King Richius on Apr 13, 2016 22:00:02 GMT -5
@haunted
I don't know if you watch Talking Dead, but after the season finale, Kirkman pointed out how he tries to end the monthly comics with a cliffhanger so it is a common device for the Walking Dead franchise. Gimple went on a tirade listing his favorite TV cliffhangers of all time. Gimple went on to say he saw the act of the kill as the end of the season story arc and the next season story arc starts with the actual character death and its aftermath. They did their best to defend the decision. I believe Gimple thinks it was a great season finale. I'm not so sure Kirkman believes it was the best move because he was much more subdued. It felt like Kirkman was rationalizing the cliffhanger ending while Gimple was really enthusiastic that it was a great move. So that's probably as close as we'll get to the behind the scenes story to the decision, at least until we get a tell all book by one of the stars, writers, or producers in a few years.
As for me, I posted before that I thought it was a stupid ending to an almost perfect episode. I'm too damn old for cliffhangers. I hate them in any and all forms. You don't write a great story and leave out the last page. It's rude. TWD should learn from shows like Game of Thrones and Black Sails where each season has a major story arc that reaches the climax in the next last or last episode. They give the viewer that big payoff you want after religiously watching the entire season and leave the cliffhangers to minor elements that will seed the next season.
As a reader of the comics I also don't see it quite so much as a cliffhanger because I'm almost positive Glenn bought the farm just like he did in the comics. (Sorry no spoiler tag but I think this is the worst kept secret in the TWD universe by now) It could be one of the others but I have my reasons for not thinking it is any of them.
-------- Edit: I don't get why people think it will be multiple victims. It has been made very clear multiple times that Negan only kills one person as an example to get the rest of his new "workers" in line.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2016 22:07:23 GMT -5
@haunted I don't know if you watch Talking Dead, but after the season finale, Kirkman pointed out how he tries to end the monthly comics with a cliffhanger so it is a common device for the Walking Dead franchise. Gimple went on a tirade listing his favorite TV cliffhangers of all time. Gimple went on to say he saw the act of the kill as the end of the season story arc and the next season story arc starts with the actual character death and its aftermath. They did their best to defend the decision. I believe Gimple thinks it was a great season finale. I'm not so sure Kirkman believes it was the best move because he was much more subdued. It felt like Kirkman was rationalizing the cliffhanger ending while Gimple was really enthusiastic that it was a great move. So that's probably as close as we'll get to the behind the scenes story to the decision, at least until we get a tell all book by one of the stars, writers, or producers in a few years. As for me, I posted before that I thought it was a stupid ending to an almost perfect episode. I'm too damn old for cliffhangers. I hate them in any and all forms. You don't write a great story and leave out the last page. It's rude. TWD should learn from shows like Game of Thrones and Black Sails where each season has a major story arc that reaches the climax in the next last or last episode. They give the viewer that big payoff you want after religiously watching the entire season and leave the cliffhangers to minor elements that will seed the next season. As a reader of the comics I also don't see it quite so much as a cliffhanger because I'm almost positive Glenn bought the farm just like he did in the comics. It could be one of the others but I have my reasons for not thinking it is any of them. -------- Edit: I don't get why people think it will be multiple victims. It has been made very clear multiple times that Negan only kills one person as an example to get the rest of his new "workers" in line. All those examples Gimple gave were bad for his argument because they were actually good plot devices. The Hatch in Lost was a great place to end. But building us up for this huge emotional moment and having nothing in terms of a payoff was just bad storytelling. And regardless of the comics' cliffhangers, it's a show. Adaptions have to be made. But if you want to use that argument, even the comic concluded the moment! I'm sorry, but there is nothing they can say or do to ameliorate that finale and the show in general at this point. I know they'll have huge numbers in October. But I really hope spells the beginning of the end. I hope the viewership drops big time and they realize their mistake. Either that, or people finally put an end to the bull**** and vote with their time by not watching. That includes me by the way. I'll be like every other schmuck in October and tune in to see who got Lucille (although I wouldn't put it past them to drag it out for 9 episodes). But it'll be from project free tv. I cancelled my Sling account. AMC will never get another dime from me.
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Post by King Richius on Apr 13, 2016 22:15:46 GMT -5
@haunted I don't know if you watch Talking Dead, but after the season finale, Kirkman pointed out how he tries to end the monthly comics with a cliffhanger so it is a common device for the Walking Dead franchise. Gimple went on a tirade listing his favorite TV cliffhangers of all time. Gimple went on to say he saw the act of the kill as the end of the season story arc and the next season story arc starts with the actual character death and its aftermath. They did their best to defend the decision. I believe Gimple thinks it was a great season finale. I'm not so sure Kirkman believes it was the best move because he was much more subdued. It felt like Kirkman was rationalizing the cliffhanger ending while Gimple was really enthusiastic that it was a great move. So that's probably as close as we'll get to the behind the scenes story to the decision, at least until we get a tell all book by one of the stars, writers, or producers in a few years. As for me, I posted before that I thought it was a stupid ending to an almost perfect episode. I'm too damn old for cliffhangers. I hate them in any and all forms. You don't write a great story and leave out the last page. It's rude. TWD should learn from shows like Game of Thrones and Black Sails where each season has a major story arc that reaches the climax in the next last or last episode. They give the viewer that big payoff you want after religiously watching the entire season and leave the cliffhangers to minor elements that will seed the next season. As a reader of the comics I also don't see it quite so much as a cliffhanger because I'm almost positive Glenn bought the farm just like he did in the comics. It could be one of the others but I have my reasons for not thinking it is any of them. -------- Edit: I don't get why people think it will be multiple victims. It has been made very clear multiple times that Negan only kills one person as an example to get the rest of his new "workers" in line. All those examples Gimple gave were bad for his argument because they were actually good plot devices. The Hatch in Lost was a great place to end. But building us up for this huge emotional moment and having nothing in terms of a payoff was just bad storytelling. And regardless of the comics' cliffhangers, it's a show. Adaptions have to be made. But if you want to use that argument, even the comic concluded the moment! I'm sorry, but there is nothing they can say or do to ameliorate that finale and the show in general at this point. I know they'll have huge numbers in October. But I really hope spells the beginning of the end. I hope the viewership drops big time and they realize their mistake. Either that, or people finally put an end to the bull**** and vote with their time by not watching. That includes me by the way. I'll be like every other schmuck in October and tune in to see who got Lucille (although I wouldn't put it past them to drag it out for 9 episodes). But it'll be from project free tv. I cancelled my Sling account. AMC will never get another dime from me. As long as your anger is directed at Gimple and Kirkman, I am in agreement with you. I'm just playing the part of messenger I will keep watching the show but I will definitely not be as excited for a season finale again. My expectations have been lowered after the way they ended both the mid-season finale and season finale.
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