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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2013 3:23:54 GMT -5
In Bret's book he said that Chief Jay told him that Vince had 6 names on a list to be the next world champion in 92 when Bret got his first world title. Do you guys know who the other 5 were?
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Post by Double J JoshuaJohn on Feb 27, 2013 4:38:34 GMT -5
Shawn michaels .. And 4 others
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Post by LeighD on Feb 27, 2013 6:03:59 GMT -5
If I had to guess:
- Bret Hart
- Shawn Michaels
- Davey Boy Smith
- Ultimate Warrior
- Undertaker
- Mr. Perfect
No one else I could really see being champion. I would assume Savage wasn't on the list as Flair had just defeated him a month prior.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2013 6:34:33 GMT -5
I'm not sure about some of those names though. Vince had plans for Shawn to be IC champ and Davey was the IC champ.
I think Undertaker and Hennig were probably likely though. Maybe Razor?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2013 6:39:10 GMT -5
Savage defo wasnt on that list.its well known Vince had to take the title off him because of his spiralling personal problems.
its hard to know......Michaels had just gone solo and was pretty unproven.Smith was definetely a contender.
Warrior Im not so sure about because of what happened in 91 but he was probably on there.Hennig too.
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Post by mikey1974 on Feb 27, 2013 7:04:55 GMT -5
I'd say:
Warrior - definitely. he was main eventing and was in a program vs Flair for the Title when they gave it to Hart.
Bulldog - a distinct possibility. he was over,and had the look. but like Warrior he got caught with drugs and he was depushed right out of the company.
Undertaker - I think also a definite. he was super-over,and could be trusted.
Mr. Perfect - this was around the time he was getting ready to return to ring action,and he DID turn on Flair to do just that,so I could see the shock value of Perfect suddenly turning face and taking the title from the guy he managed!
Bret Hart - of course we all saw where this went!
Ted Dibiase - gonna go with a dark horse here. in early fall 1992 Money ,Inc. were no longer the tag champs,so it would be feasable to have Dibiase as a singles wrestler again. he was a long-time loyal employee and could be trusted in the role. npot a long-term solution,but could be a good to great transitional Champ.
HBK,it was too soon,he wasn't even a singles wrestler for a year yet. Razor was too new to the company,only being there a few months at that point. guys like Duggan and Slaughter weren't getting it. Hogan,Sid,and Jake were gone. Boss Man was on his way out. Luger was still in the WBF. Tito Santana loves to talk about Vince saying he would get the Title during this time. Vince MAY have said that,but when you're losing the opening matches at PPV's, yeah,not likely!
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Post by King Clayton of the MidWest on Feb 27, 2013 7:11:24 GMT -5
Agree with Mikey ^^
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2013 7:32:24 GMT -5
I'm not too sure about Warrior or Bulldog. How could Vince consider putting the title on drug addicts when he was in so much trouble with the steroid scandle?
Ted Dibiase had also crossed my mind Mikey.
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Post by LeighD on Feb 27, 2013 8:00:23 GMT -5
Well, I have to ask this question, when was this list made? Obviously before Bret was Champion. So I would assume this list was made in September a few months before Warrior and Smith were canned. Yes Smith was IC champion but he and Bret had a classic match at SummerSlam that really boasted SMith's stock.
I'll admit, Shawn was probably unlikely at this point as he was not even a year into his solo run. Razor Ramon had also crossed my mind. He had the look, but would Vince put THE title on him only after a few months of being in the WWF?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2013 8:20:33 GMT -5
Well, I have to ask this question, when was this list made? Obviously before Bret was Champion. So I would assume this list was made in September a few months before Warrior and Smith were canned. Yes Smith was IC champion but he and Bret had a classic match at SummerSlam that really boasted SMith's stock. I'll admit, Shawn was probably unlikely at this point as he was not even a year into his solo run. Razor Ramon had also crossed my mind. He had the look, but would Vince put THE title on him only after a few months of being in the WWF? Bret did say in his book that Vince wanted to push Razor to the moon... And he did main event the second PPV he was active in the company for. He was also put into a huge match with 3 of the biggest stars at the time (Warrior, Savage and Flair) for his first PPV. After how severely troubled Davey was with Drugs at the time I can't imagine him being on the list with Vinces drug trials going on at the time. |
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Post by mikey1974 on Feb 27, 2013 8:46:37 GMT -5
Vince's drug trial was about steroids and PED's. not recreational drugs like coke,heroin,painkillers,etc. so Vince seemed perfectly content to turn a blind eye to whatever Davey was doing UNTIL he got busted for PED's. then he had him drop the IC Belt nd was right out of the company. same with Warrior. he was getting a huge push til he tested positive for steroids,then he was gone too.
should be noted that both Davey and Warrior tested positive for steroids AFTER Bret became Champion,so it's quite possible they were both on the list,as Vince didn't care at the time what other drugs the guys were doing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2013 8:59:53 GMT -5
According to Bret Vince had already started testing people for street drugs like Coke and Heroin well before he won the title. In fact it's pretty much why Neidhart got fired shortly before WM8.
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Post by Raine on Feb 27, 2013 9:06:26 GMT -5
Tito Santana claims he was one, surely false at this point of his career?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2013 9:13:16 GMT -5
Tito Santana claims he was one, surely false at this point of his career? I think that's fairly unlikely... He'd been jobbing for years at this point a lot of the time in dark matches. |
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Post by wyleecyotee on Feb 27, 2013 9:24:48 GMT -5
Roster for 92/93 (bolded everyone said so far, seems about right unless there was a big outsider Vince had in mind for a title shot):
Randy Savage
Hulk Hogan
Ultimate Warrior
Bret Hart
British Bulldog
Roddy Piper
Texas Tornado
Tatanka
Big Bossman
Tito Santana
Nikolia Volkoff
Marty Jannetty
Virgil
Hawk
Animal
Earthquake
Typhoon
Jim Duggan
Sgt Slaughter
Cousin Luke
Cousin Butch
Jim Neidhart
Owen Hart
Koko B. Ware
Jimmy Snuka
Greg Valentine
Ric Flair
Sid Justice
Undertaker
Yokozuna
Shawn Michaels
Razor Ramon
Rick Martel
Jake Roberts
The Mountie
Nailz
Warlord
Berzerker
Dino Bravo
Ted DiBiase
IRS
Kamala
Brian Knobbs
Jerry Sags
Blake Beverly
Beau Beverly
Fatu
Samu
Barbarian
Haku
Colonal Mustafa
Repo Man
Skinner
Brooklyn Brawler
Brutus Beefcake
Mr Perfect
Crush
Bob Backlund
1-2-3 Kid
Tito Santana
Terry Taylor
Big Bossman
Max Moon
Virgil
Rick Steiner
Scott Steiner
Billy Gunn
Bart Gunn
Mabel
Mo
Koko B. Ware
Bruce Hart
Keith Hart
Lex Luger
Diesel
Jerry Lawler
Giant Gonzales
Ludvig Borga
Adam Bomb
Bastion Booger
Bam Bam Bigelow
Rick Martel
Papa Shango
Doink
Mr. Hughes
Tom Pritchard
Jimmy Del Ray
Blake Beverly
Beau Beverly
Damien Demento
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Post by mikey1974 on Feb 27, 2013 9:35:08 GMT -5
According to Bret Vince had already started testing people for street drugs like Coke and Heroin well before he won the title. In fact it's pretty much why Neidhart got fired shortly before WM8. yeah,but then Bret basically contradicts himself by saying how drugged up Davey was leading up to,during,and after SummerSlam 1992. so if they were testing for everything,how did Davey get away with it so long? and why was he fired for HGH, rather than all the other drugs he was taking. personally,and this is my opinion only, they were testing for all kinds of drugs. BUT they were only testing who they wanted to,or conveniently ignoring the results of who they wanted to. cause in spite of all the crap Davey was taking,he was ONLY fired because he was found to be using steroids and such, not cause he was hopped up on painkillers. same with Warrior, ONLY fired cause he was receiving shipments of HGH and steroids. I think if he wasn't being prosecuted for steroid distribution,Vince would've looked the other way on both. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2013 9:59:26 GMT -5
According to Bret Vince had already started testing people for street drugs like Coke and Heroin well before he won the title. In fact it's pretty much why Neidhart got fired shortly before WM8. yeah,but then Bret basically contradicts himself by saying how drugged up Davey was leading up to,during,and after SummerSlam 1992. so if they were testing for everything,how did Davey get away with it so long? and why was he fired for HGH, rather than all the other drugs he was taking. personally,and this is my opinion only, they were testing for all kinds of drugs. BUT they were only testing who they wanted to,or conveniently ignoring the results of who they wanted to. cause in spite of all the crap Davey was taking,he was ONLY fired because he was found to be using steroids and such, not cause he was hopped up on painkillers. same with Warrior, ONLY fired cause he was receiving shipments of HGH and steroids. I think if he wasn't being prosecuted for steroid distribution,Vince would've looked the other way on both. That may be true, but Davey had injured himself (I think his knee?) and didn't compete for a long time leading up to Summerslam. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2013 10:21:55 GMT -5
Mr. Perfect better had been on that list.
Still a shame he never got to win the big one in WWF.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2013 10:39:15 GMT -5
Mr. Perfect better had been on that list. Still a shame he never got to win the big one in WWF. Agreed. I can only think that he didn't because of back injury and how unreliable that made him. |
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Post by punksnotdead on Feb 27, 2013 11:07:21 GMT -5
I would like to think that Piper would have been in consideration for the World Title at around that time. Piper, Perfect and Dibiase would have been the glaring holes of 1992. I know Piper left to do movies but I think a title reign would have changed some of that. I'd say Warrior and Taker were probably the other two depending on the time period. Just my guess.
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