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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Jan 10, 2014 17:57:50 GMT -5
Live WWE NXT going head to head with TNA Impact Wrestling
Source: LordsOfPain.com
The live WWE NXT special on the WWE Network on February 27th will be airing in primetime, head-to-head with TNA's taped episode of Impact Wrestling that night.
Not sure if it's true. In case it's true, there goes me watching Impact that night, and if it's a permanent thing, there goes me watching Impact permanently lol
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jan 10, 2014 18:02:06 GMT -5
Hilarious. One is on REAL tv. The other couldnt get a tv deal and is stuck as a stream only.
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Post by Angel Beast on Jan 10, 2014 18:04:43 GMT -5
I think the way it will go since the Network seems to be like Netflix and Hulu, but with live airings and whatnot, I think you'll be able to watch NXT whenever you want so if you like watching Impact you can still watch it and catch the latest NXT when you have the time.
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Post by jayrod2009 on Jan 10, 2014 18:18:20 GMT -5
I think the way it will go since the Network seems to be like Netflix and Hulu, but with live airings and whatnot, I think you'll be able to watch NXT whenever you want so if you like watching Impact you can still watch it and catch the latest NXT when you have the time. But, this would make TNA clean up their crapty show. At the same time, NXT being a streaming show instead of televised, couldn't they get away with more of an edgy show? Maybe WWE will turn NXT into that adult oriented, uber fan wrestling show. Lots of wrestling ( indy style) with more of a product geare towards a 18-32 age demographic. I'm not saying a AA type show. But a mix of Original ECW, ROH, and WWE's style under one product. It would, for me, make it a must watch show. Again, for TNA, it would make them NEED to change. Only the fans would win here.
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Post by The Dazzler on Jan 10, 2014 18:28:54 GMT -5
Hilarious. One is on REAL tv. The other couldnt get a tv deal and is stuck as a stream only. I don't necessarily think they couldn't get a TV deal. My opinion is that they're trying to secure more subscriptions to the WWE Network and by having it stream live, it could attract more buyers. I thought NXT was on TV as well before they went internationally exclusive.
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Post by Epic Z on Jan 10, 2014 18:30:58 GMT -5
Meh, i'm still going to be watching TNA that night.
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Post by Justin on Jan 10, 2014 18:31:32 GMT -5
Hilarious. One is on REAL tv. The other couldnt get a tv deal and is stuck as a stream only. Well TNA's contract is up this year so we'll see if they stay on "real" tv
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Post by Angel Beast on Jan 10, 2014 19:06:50 GMT -5
Hilarious. One is on REAL tv. The other couldnt get a tv deal and is stuck as a stream only. I don't necessarily think they couldn't get a TV deal. My opinion is that they're trying to secure more subscriptions to the WWE Network and by having it stream live, it could attract more buyers. I thought NXT was on TV as well before they went internationally exclusive. I believe it aired primarily in Florida, being that's where it's based, before it went to Hulu.
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Post by Sleazyness on Jan 10, 2014 19:11:16 GMT -5
I just wish it would be on tv in general, not a network that you have to pay for. It should just replace WWE Main Event.
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Jan 10, 2014 19:12:08 GMT -5
Hilarious. One is on REAL tv. The other couldnt get a tv deal and is stuck as a stream only. NXT has a TV deal with almost every country the WWE is available in, except for the US. And if we are going to take that route: NXT:- Has a reserved area for tapings - Having its first live show soon - Showcasing the future stars - Isn't available on TV in the US - Is available on TV in other countries - Has a larger roster - Has a larger women's division TNA:- Has been forced back onto the road - Gone from having every show Live to every other show Live to having every show taped 1-4 weeks ahead of time - Is available on TV in the US - Is available in other countries - Is the highest rated show (with an average N. Rating of .98 for 2013) on Spike - Has had their lowest average N. Rating since 2006 - Couldn't resign their top talent - Founding Father resigned - More than likely isn't going to be around much longer (don't not bring up that BS that they have unlimited funding from Panda Energy, they don't) Who gives a damn if it is only streamed in the US, at least it isn't a failing promotion that may not even last a year.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2014 19:12:21 GMT -5
I think the way it will go since the Network seems to be like Netflix and Hulu, but with live airings and whatnot, I think you'll be able to watch NXT whenever you want so if you like watching Impact you can still watch it and catch the latest NXT when you have the time. But, this would make TNA clean up their crapty show. At the same time, NXT being a streaming show instead of televised, couldn't they get away with more of an edgy show? Maybe WWE will turn NXT into that adult oriented, uber fan wrestling show. Lots of wrestling ( indy style) with more of a product geare towards a 18-32 age demographic. I'm not saying a AA type show. But a mix of Original ECW, ROH, and WWE's style under one product. It would, for me, make it a must watch show. Again, for TNA, it would make them NEED to change. Only the fans would win here. If that means we get Emma vs Paige in a bra & panties match, they have my support.
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Post by CMPUNKISGOOD on Jan 10, 2014 19:24:48 GMT -5
NXT is better than WWE sometimes so TNA won't last that long. (3,000 post)
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Post by JC Motors on Jan 10, 2014 19:35:59 GMT -5
Hilarious. One is on REAL tv. The other couldnt get a tv deal and is stuck as a stream only. NXT has a TV deal with almost every country the WWE is available in, except for the US. And if we are going to take that route: NXT:- Has a reserved area for tapings - Having its first live show soon - Showcasing the future stars - Isn't available on TV in the US - Is available on TV in other countries - Has a larger roster - Has a larger women's division TNA:- Has been forced back onto the road - Gone from having every show Live to every other show Live to having every show taped 1-4 weeks ahead of time - Is available on TV in the US - Is available in other countries - Is the highest rated show (with an average N. Rating of .98 for 2013) on Spike - Has had their lowest average N. Rating since 2006 - Couldn't resign their top talent - Founding Father resigned - More than likely isn't going to be around much longer (don't not bring up that BS that they have unlimited funding from Panda Energy, they don't) Who gives a damn if it is only streamed in the US, at least it isn't a failing promotion that may not even last a year. I don't Understand Why NXT isn't on US TV
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jan 10, 2014 19:42:25 GMT -5
I think the way it will go since the Network seems to be like Netflix and Hulu, but with live airings and whatnot, I think you'll be able to watch NXT whenever you want so if you like watching Impact you can still watch it and catch the latest NXT when you have the time. But, this would make TNA clean up their crapty show. At the same time, NXT being a streaming show instead of televised, couldn't they get away with more of an edgy show? Maybe WWE will turn NXT into that adult oriented, uber fan wrestling show. Lots of wrestling ( indy style) with more of a product geare towards a 18-32 age demographic. I'm not saying a AA type show. But a mix of Original ECW, ROH, and WWE's style under one product. It would, for me, make it a must watch show. Again, for TNA, it would make them NEED to change. Only the fans would win here. NXT isnt gonna be the "edgy" show as WWE isnt edgy. Its not the TV networks that are making WWE less edgy. Hilarious. One is on REAL tv. The other couldnt get a tv deal and is stuck as a stream only. I don't necessarily think they couldn't get a TV deal. My opinion is that they're trying to secure more subscriptions to the WWE Network and by having it stream live, it could attract more buyers. I thought NXT was on TV as well before they went internationally exclusive. WWE couldnt get a tv deal that would meet the terms they were looking for. It was a cost/revenue decision. Based on estimated figures, the cost to go on television would eat into the profit margin they were seeking. They believe that eventhough they will garner less streamers, the profit percentage will be greater than if they were selling more programs at a smaller margin. Hilarious. One is on REAL tv. The other couldnt get a tv deal and is stuck as a stream only. Well TNA's contract is up this year so we'll see if they stay on "real" tv QFT. That very well could happen. I hear Spike is gonna make a play for WWE. Hilarious. One is on REAL tv. The other couldnt get a tv deal and is stuck as a stream only. NXT has a TV deal with almost every country the WWE is available in, except for the US. And if we are going to take that route: NXT:- Has a reserved area for tapings - Having its first live show soon - Showcasing the future stars - Isn't available on TV in the US - Is available on TV in other countries - Has a larger roster - Has a larger women's division TNA:- Has been forced back onto the road - Gone from having every show Live to every other show Live to having every show taped 1-4 weeks ahead of time - Is available on TV in the US - Is available in other countries - Is the highest rated show (with an average N. Rating of .98 for 2013) on Spike - Has had their lowest average N. Rating since 2006 - Couldn't resign their top talent - Founding Father resigned - More than likely isn't going to be around much longer (don't not bring up that BS that they have unlimited funding from Panda Energy, they don't) Who gives a damn if it is only streamed in the US, at least it isn't a failing promotion that may not even last a year. I WILL NOT get into a WWE vs. TNA debate. These turn into nonsensical bitter fights. What I will say is that my comment isnt directed at who has the better show or the better product. My comment is directed towards the fact that one is on cable television and the other is on an internet service. Cable vs. internet stream is much becoming the same battle as network vs. cable. Network television reaches more households than cable/satellite. Cable/satellite reaches more households than internet stream. In addition, cable streams do not have ratings. They are measured on buys. The only comparison data that might be available would be number of live streamers/all streamers vs. number of viewers for TNA.
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Post by That 80s Guy on Jan 10, 2014 19:43:30 GMT -5
Hilarious. One is on REAL tv. The other couldnt get a tv deal and is stuck as a stream only. Well TNA's contract is up this year so we'll see if they stay on "real" tv -- People have been saying that for years, since day 1 of TNA's existence. And today, TNA's rounding their 12th year on ACTUAL television (Wed. PPV's, FSN, Spike)... longer than ECW existed, and not far behind how long WCW existed.
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Post by Epic Z on Jan 10, 2014 19:50:57 GMT -5
Hilarious. One is on REAL tv. The other couldnt get a tv deal and is stuck as a stream only. NXT has a TV deal with almost every country the WWE is available in, except for the US. And if we are going to take that route: NXT:- Has a reserved area for tapings - Having its first live show soon - Showcasing the future stars - Isn't available on TV in the US - Is available on TV in other countries - Has a larger roster - Has a larger women's division TNA:- Has been forced back onto the road - Gone from having every show Live to every other show Live to having every show taped 1-4 weeks ahead of time - Is available on TV in the US - Is available in other countries - Is the highest rated show (with an average N. Rating of .98 for 2013) on Spike - Has had their lowest average N. Rating since 2006 - Couldn't resign their top talent - Founding Father resigned - More than likely isn't going to be around much longer (don't not bring up that BS that they have unlimited funding from Panda Energy, they don't)
Who gives a damn if it is only streamed in the US, at least it isn't a failing promotion that may not even last a year.People have been saying "They won't make it another year" for the past 12 years dude. Also NXT of course is going to have more money and a larger roster considering its still WWE its just a developmental territory.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Jan 10, 2014 19:57:15 GMT -5
Hilarious. One is on REAL tv. The other couldnt get a tv deal and is stuck as a stream only. NXT has a TV deal with almost every country the WWE is available in, except for the US. And if we are going to take that route: NXT:- Has a reserved area for tapings - Having its first live show soon - Showcasing the future stars - Isn't available on TV in the US - Is available on TV in other countries - Has a larger roster - Has a larger women's division TNA:- Has been forced back onto the road - Gone from having every show Live to every other show Live to having every show taped 1-4 weeks ahead of time - Is available on TV in the US - Is available in other countries - Is the highest rated show (with an average N. Rating of .98 for 2013) on Spike - Has had their lowest average N. Rating since 2006 - Couldn't resign their top talent - Founding Father resigned - More than likely isn't going to be around much longer (don't not bring up that BS that they have unlimited funding from Panda Energy, they don't) Who gives a damn if it is only streamed in the US, at least it isn't a failing promotion that may not even last a year. You make some pretty good points. The only one I would actually disagree with you on is where NXT has a larger women's division. Unless you were also including the WWE Divas who appear some time to time on NXT, then yes they have a larger women's division. NXT sure has a better women's division than TNA and WWE IMO. Personally, I'll be more inclined to watch NXT, which will be live, than to watch TNA, which most likely will be taped and I can always DVR and watch later or watch on YouTube. Just my thoughts. Also about TNA probably not surviving. If Spike takes TNA off of the network, I think TNA will be in major, major trouble. Now I've been enjoying TNA lately since Hogan and Bischoff's influence were not in, but it will take Dixie Carter not being in charge of TNA for me to become a full supporter of TNA. Ending point, I can't wait for the WWE Network!
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Post by Sleazyness on Jan 10, 2014 20:12:30 GMT -5
NXT has a TV deal with almost every country the WWE is available in, except for the US. And if we are going to take that route: NXT:- Has a reserved area for tapings - Having its first live show soon - Showcasing the future stars - Isn't available on TV in the US - Is available on TV in other countries - Has a larger roster - Has a larger women's division TNA:- Has been forced back onto the road - Gone from having every show Live to every other show Live to having every show taped 1-4 weeks ahead of time - Is available on TV in the US - Is available in other countries - Is the highest rated show (with an average N. Rating of .98 for 2013) on Spike - Has had their lowest average N. Rating since 2006 - Couldn't resign their top talent - Founding Father resigned - More than likely isn't going to be around much longer (don't not bring up that BS that they have unlimited funding from Panda Energy, they don't)
Who gives a damn if it is only streamed in the US, at least it isn't a failing promotion that may not even last a year.People have been saying "They won't make it another year" for the past 12 years dude. Also NXT of course is going to have more money and a larger roster considering its still WWE its just a developmental territory. Not to be off topic here but I think that ROH should have the TV deal that TNA has. TNA has lost so much flavor to me. I think it started when they got rid of the six sided ring. Like Dixie has here own little corporation now. Really? Ethan Carter III? ROCKSTAR FRICKEN SPUDD? Its just not what I remember it as. Just my opinion though and I completely respect everyone elses! Anyways, I wouldnt consider this head to head seen as how one is on a Network that is exclusive to people who purchase it monthly. TNA is regularly on the air and on cable and what not. Great points made by the dude I quoted though!!!!!
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Jan 10, 2014 20:16:07 GMT -5
NXT has a TV deal with almost every country the WWE is available in, except for the US. And if we are going to take that route: NXT:- Has a reserved area for tapings - Having its first live show soon - Showcasing the future stars - Isn't available on TV in the US - Is available on TV in other countries - Has a larger roster - Has a larger women's division TNA:- Has been forced back onto the road - Gone from having every show Live to every other show Live to having every show taped 1-4 weeks ahead of time - Is available on TV in the US - Is available in other countries - Is the highest rated show (with an average N. Rating of .98 for 2013) on Spike - Has had their lowest average N. Rating since 2006 - Couldn't resign their top talent - Founding Father resigned - More than likely isn't going to be around much longer (don't not bring up that BS that they have unlimited funding from Panda Energy, they don't) Who gives a damn if it is only streamed in the US, at least it isn't a failing promotion that may not even last a year. I WILL NOT get into a WWE vs. TNA debate. These turn into nonsensical bitter fights. What I will say is that my comment isnt directed at who has the better show or the better product. My comment is directed towards the fact that one is on cable television and the other is on an internet service. Cable vs. internet stream is much becoming the same battle as network vs. cable. Network television reaches more households than cable/satellite. Cable/satellite reaches more households than internet stream. In addition, cable streams do not have ratings. They are measured on buys. The only comparison data that might be available would be number of live streamers/all streamers vs. number of viewers for TNA. Oh really? You came in here and said NXT couldn't get (not that they just don't have) a TV deal. You have no idea on whether or not WWE tried to even get a TV deal for NXT in the US. So instead of trying to make a logical response you decided to make a snarky comment. I know cable streams don't have rating that is why I didn't put one for NXT. What I was saying is that IMPACT's ratings are already poo-poo so if WWE is going to be putting NXT up at the same time, the only thing that could happen is that Impact's ratings would go down and at the same not do much to NXT's views, no matter how significant or insignificant that viewership change may be. As you said it is a streaming program and it is more than likely to be on record in the on demand portion.
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Jan 10, 2014 20:21:35 GMT -5
NXT has a TV deal with almost every country the WWE is available in, except for the US. And if we are going to take that route: NXT:- Has a reserved area for tapings - Having its first live show soon - Showcasing the future stars - Isn't available on TV in the US - Is available on TV in other countries - Has a larger roster - Has a larger women's division TNA:- Has been forced back onto the road - Gone from having every show Live to every other show Live to having every show taped 1-4 weeks ahead of time - Is available on TV in the US - Is available in other countries - Is the highest rated show (with an average N. Rating of .98 for 2013) on Spike - Has had their lowest average N. Rating since 2006 - Couldn't resign their top talent - Founding Father resigned - More than likely isn't going to be around much longer (don't not bring up that BS that they have unlimited funding from Panda Energy, they don't)
Who gives a damn if it is only streamed in the US, at least it isn't a failing promotion that may not even last a year.People have been saying "They won't make it another year" for the past 12 years dude. Also NXT of course is going to have more money and a larger roster considering its still WWE its just a developmental territory. Yeah they have for 12 years, the difference being that 12 years ago their ratings were on the rise, but now the ratings have, for the first time in 7 years, fallen below a 1.00 for the average. It also isn't a good sign when they can't match their top guy's previous contract or when the guy who proposed the company has resigned from it without plans of retirement.
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