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Post by T R W on Jan 27, 2014 18:11:34 GMT -5
There should be no more then 4 belts in the company. That's it. World, Intercontiental, Tag, and Womans. Since the woman are really doing nothing they should scrap that and bring in a TV Title or something like that. No more then 4 titles. anymore downgrades what they mean or should mean. The idea should be to make it as old school style as possible, make it actually mean something again. You do realize it's 2014 right? Ideas from 25 or 30 years ago don't work anymore for anything, not just wrestling. For anything? That's a bit hyperbolic. But tell me, how did having all those titles work out the last decade? The US title hasn't gotten anyone over since before WCW ended. All these title reigns for people like Swagger, Del Rio, and Sheamus, how has that made the product better? Or made those guys better? Having too many titles has made the writers and bookers lazy. They don't have to craft an interesting feud or mid card storyline. It's just well he has the US title and we aren't doing anything with this guy, so let's have them fight for it. OR, even better, have all of these titles around, and don't even bother using them which looks even worse. The abundance of titles has ruined the importance of and watered down winning a championship. In a lot of situations, less is more, and when it comes to wrestling championships, that definitely applies.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2014 18:15:35 GMT -5
You do realize it's 2014 right? Ideas from 25 or 30 years ago don't work anymore for anything, not just wrestling. For anything? That's a bit hyperbolic. But tell me, how did having all those titles work out the last decade? The US title hasn't gotten anyone over since before WCW ended. All these title reigns for people like Swagger, Del Rio, and Sheamus, how has that made the product better? Or made those guys better? Having too many titles has made the writers and bookers lazy. They don't have to craft an interesting feud or mid card storyline. It's just well he has the US title and we aren't doing anything with this guy, so let's have them fight for it. OR, even better, have all of these titles around, and don't even bother using them which looks even worse. The abundance of titles has ruined the importance of and watered down winning a championship. In a lot of situations, less is more, and when it comes to wrestling championships, that definitely applies. Without the World Title, Daniel Bryan would be nothing right now. Without his awesome heel reign, without him losing in 18 seconds, the "#YESMovement" would be nonexistent.
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Jan 27, 2014 18:15:49 GMT -5
I really enjoyed the Rumble and am really excited for RAW tonight. To hell with all this Daniel Bryan bullsh*t, the WWE has been at it's best in years and I like Bryan but all this boycotting nonsense is so over the top and annoying. Yes, exactly. I marked out like a little girl twice last night. I couldn't tell you the last time I thought the WWE put out a PPV that was good from start to finish. Last night was one of them, the only thing that I would criticise is the crowd for booing everyone at the end. Why? They paid their money to see a show and expressed their opinion about said show. I'd be pissed to if I paid to see someone's career (not necessarily Bryan's) elevated to end up seeing a 45 year old, part time worker, in the twilight of his career, win instead. Can't criticize a crowd especially not a known smart crowd for saying what they want. It's the WWE fault 100% you are seeing people like this. Blame them not the crowds for the reaction. I'm sure many in the business will tell you the same thing. Bryan was NEVER advertised for the Royal Rumble. He put on a pretty good match on the undercard and had said in several interviews that he wasn't going to be in the rumble match. It's NOT the WWE's fault that the fans chose to ignore all the signs and put their hopes on something that wasn't going to happen. They never once said he wasn't going to be either. Bryan said in those interviews that he wasn't in the Royal Rumble YET, but was working on it. Also with the fact that his match went on first kind of gave the mindset that he might be entering. Unless you wanna watch TNA then your gonna watch WWE because its all we got . im sure half the people saying they aint watching anymore will be the same ones tuning in tonight to watch the RAW aftermath of Rumble. I do watch TNA, and it's a hell of a lot more entertaining and they actually listen to and respect their fans. And no, WWE isn't all I have because I don't just stick to the main stream stuff that's shoved down my throat like everyone else on here apparently. You lost all credibility with that first sentence. TNA has one possibly good thing going with the American Wolves, but aside from that it is what you are describing the WWE as. WWE isn't burying Bryan, but IMO they are under utilizing him. And like everyone else has said unless you are a Nielson Family, YOU NOT WATCHING DOESN'T MATTER!!!! While I am upset about the Bryan not even being in the Rumble match, I am not only watching WWE for Daniel Bryan.
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Post by marino13 on Jan 27, 2014 18:17:20 GMT -5
Honestly, what sounds more enticing... Be in a premiere match at Mania or... Be in the WWE Undisputed World Championship match at WM?? Of coarse they want him back for publicity purposes. And if they wanted him bad enough, I'm sure they would say or do whatever was necessary to get him back. Not worth THE match at WM to bring Batista back, if that was the case. WWE's stock hit an all time high while he was gone. The Rock returned. The garnered major main stream publicity. They will have no issues with WM, axxess, ratings, ticket sales, etc. with or without Batista. I don't disagree that they would have been fine without him. But for one reason or another they obviously wanted him back. And it's possible they were willing to do whatever it took.
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Post by T R W on Jan 27, 2014 18:22:50 GMT -5
For anything? That's a bit hyperbolic. But tell me, how did having all those titles work out the last decade? The US title hasn't gotten anyone over since before WCW ended. All these title reigns for people like Swagger, Del Rio, and Sheamus, how has that made the product better? Or made those guys better? Having too many titles has made the writers and bookers lazy. They don't have to craft an interesting feud or mid card storyline. It's just well he has the US title and we aren't doing anything with this guy, so let's have them fight for it. OR, even better, have all of these titles around, and don't even bother using them which looks even worse. The abundance of titles has ruined the importance of and watered down winning a championship. In a lot of situations, less is more, and when it comes to wrestling championships, that definitely applies. Without the World Title, Daniel Bryan would be nothing right now. Without his awesome heel reign, without him losing in 18 seconds, the "#YESMovement" would be nonexistent. You can't say that for sure. It very easily could have been done with the IC title instead. And honestly, any title on Smackdown had about the same or less credibility as the IC title. Basically, You had whatever championship that was on RAW, and 3 mid card titles. Great wrestlers rise to the top. Sure, some great wrestlers of the past never won the World Title. But that's ok. The beauty of wrestling unlike real sports, is you don't need the World Title to validate your career.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2014 18:50:30 GMT -5
Without the World Title, Daniel Bryan would be nothing right now. Without his awesome heel reign, without him losing in 18 seconds, the "#YESMovement" would be nonexistent. You can't say that for sure. It very easily could have been done with the IC title instead. And honestly, any title on Smackdown had about the same or less credibility as the IC title. Basically, You had whatever championship that was on RAW, and 3 mid card titles. Great wrestlers rise to the top. Sure, some great wrestlers of the past never won the World Title. But that's ok. The beauty of wrestling unlike real sports, is you don't need the World Title to validate your career. That never would have happened with the IC Title. Say what you want about the World Title, but it was important enough to make Sheamus and Bryan and Del Rio stars, breathed new life into Mark Henry and Kane and Jericho, solidified Orton as the number two guy in WWE, made Christian more relevant than he'd been in years, gave Undertaker a last championship, and made Edge a near legend. And with that gone, all of those options are gone and it severely limits what can be done, severely limits the Rumble, and severely limits guys from reaching their potential.
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Post by The Dazzler on Jan 27, 2014 18:57:40 GMT -5
Can't criticize a crowd especially not a known smart crowd for saying what they want. It's the WWE fault 100% you are seeing people like this. Blame them not the crowds for the reaction. I'm sure many in the business will tell you the same thing. Bryan was NEVER advertised for the Royal Rumble. He put on a pretty good match on the undercard and had said in several interviews that he wasn't going to be in the rumble match. It's NOT the WWE's fault that the fans chose to ignore all the signs and put their hopes on something that wasn't going to happen. Unfortunately, the boos weren't only because Bryan wasn't in the match, they were directed towards Batista. If Roman Reigns or CM Punk won the match, a lot more people would be satisfied.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2014 19:03:33 GMT -5
You can't say that for sure. It very easily could have been done with the IC title instead. And honestly, any title on Smackdown had about the same or less credibility as the IC title. Basically, You had whatever championship that was on RAW, and 3 mid card titles. Great wrestlers rise to the top. Sure, some great wrestlers of the past never won the World Title. But that's ok. The beauty of wrestling unlike real sports, is you don't need the World Title to validate your career. That never would have happened with the IC Title. Say what you want about the World Title, but it was important enough to make Sheamus and Bryan and Del Rio stars, breathed new life into Mark Henry and Kane and Jericho, solidified Orton as the number two guy in WWE, made Christian more relevant than he'd been in years, gave Undertaker a last championship, and made Edge a near legend. And with that gone, all of those options are gone and it severely limits what can be done, severely limits the Rumble, and severely limits guys from reaching their potential. Honestly the biggest reason for him being where he is with the crowd was his time in Hell No more than anything. His interactions with the crowd with the noing to the crowd and them yesing him back along with the goofiness he had with Kane made him a very lovable/identifiable guy to the crowd.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2014 19:18:44 GMT -5
I really enjoyed the Rumble and am really excited for RAW tonight. To hell with all this Daniel Bryan bullsh*t, the WWE has been at it's best in years and I like Bryan but all this boycotting nonsense is so over the top and annoying. how is wwe at its best? The divas matches have been total diva vs non total diva for a while, the feud for the world title is a feud that was made during evolution not now. When your titles are held by guys way past their prime there's a problem. There's a great Midcard but neither title was defended and the us titles is a prop.
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Jan 27, 2014 19:52:57 GMT -5
I really enjoyed the Rumble and am really excited for RAW tonight. To hell with all this Daniel Bryan bullsh*t, the WWE has been at it's best in years and I like Bryan but all this boycotting nonsense is so over the top and annoying. I love Bryan and all, but I still think the show itself was pretty good. WWE didn't advertise Bryan for the Rumble match, so I don't understand why so many thought he'd win. I mean sure it would have been a great surprise if he did, but I still enjoyed the PPV overall. Don't watch Raw because the internet darling didn't win a match that he wasn't in? please. I am going to watch Raw along with all the pissed off fans who say they're never watching WWE again. Johnny Ace is getting old. Yall would be perfect for vince's new Yes Men. That's a really idiotic staement.I've been unhappy with with the product for years, I can't help it if it's been really entertaining to me lately. Maybe it's because I'm not an elitist smark.
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Post by ahunter8056 on Jan 28, 2014 16:26:41 GMT -5
Yes, please do off. That way we won't have our viewing spoiled by moronic "fans" who chant things that don't make sense.
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Post by Roman Bellic on Jan 28, 2014 17:06:41 GMT -5
Yes, please do off. That way we won't have our viewing spoiled by moronic "fans" who chant things that don't make sense. i agree Attitude Era is a overrated POS
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Post by ahunter8056 on Jan 28, 2014 17:40:16 GMT -5
Yes, please do off. That way we won't have our viewing spoiled by moronic "fans" who chant things that don't make sense. i agree Attitude Era is a overrated POSI agree 100%.
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Post by Road Warriors on Jan 28, 2014 17:50:14 GMT -5
Attitude Era is a overrated POS
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