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Post by punksnotdead on Feb 25, 2014 11:50:13 GMT -5
Backlund's 94 run is a good one imo. It was essentially Owen Hart's run, and I don't understand why it happened, at all. Yokozuna just over stayed his welcome. I didn't mind him being champion, it was more so how long he was champion. Yokozuna should have gotten more of a Slaughter run, so the Rumble to Mania type of deal, which is why I don't have a problem with Slaughter's run because he was a transitional champion and people legitimately wanted to murder him. Miz never had a chance. I mean they put him in a feud with King. He was abused his entire title reign, and that's primarily because he was over stepping his ability, in a gigantic way. I would agree he wasn't very deserving of the title. I could say the exact same thing for Alberto Del Rio as well. They put the title on him to tour Mexico but he has the charisma of a paper bag. It also ed with Summer of Punk because he was involved in a title picture he should have been nowhere near. Del Rio is probably my least favorite WWE Champion ever because Del Rio is one of my least favorite wrestlers, ever. Jeff Hardy won the title because he was the most over guy in the company. I love Edge, but Hardy was more deserving of a solid title reign around 08-09 than Edge. "Sloppy in the ring" is kind of his thing. He's a crash test dummy. If you don't like that type of reckless abandonment then fine but he earned a place at the top by getting over imo. Technically speaking, Rey Mysterio is a former WWE Champion. He had no business being champion, especially at that time, and it doesn't even make sense that they gave it to him for the 2 hours that they did. I guess it wasn't even long enough to blink through but still. I don't know, I have a hard time not saying Backlund here personally. Thankfully, Diesel destroyed him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2014 11:55:48 GMT -5
Miz is probably the best answer, but he's ing Maryse so he still wins at life. It's DAMN hard to argue with that logic. Even though her goodies are all over the Internet? It would still be nice!!! In a way that's better for him. He can be like "yeah you've seen what I motorboat".
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2014 12:01:02 GMT -5
I would sell my soul to the devil just to be able to thr*at Maryse one time.
Anyway, Backlund's second run sucked but was too short lived to really make an impact or effect the business.
Slaughters run was total trash and done only for cheap heat. The fans saw right through it and responded by not purchasing tickets to Wrestlemania which caused them to move the event to a MUCH smaller venue.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2014 12:37:58 GMT -5
Probably Jericho. First ever Undisputed champion, wrestling was still pretty hot at the time, had opponents like Rock, Austin and HHH to work with, and he was still awful. Unless he's had a good WWE title reign since that I've forgotten, but that's not exactly a good sign either if he has and I don't even remember it. I don't really think that was Jericho's fault. He was given the title for the sole purpose of HHH winning it at Wrestlemania. If it weren't for the NWO coming in, Jericho wouldn't have even been given the title in the first place. The two biggest names in WWE (Austin and The Rock) were going to fight the biggest faction in WCW (and both matches were bigger deals than the championship match). HHH needed to win the title so he could have his big Wrestlemania moment, which meant Undertaker was out, and his feud with Angle a couple years earlier was lukewarm at best, so really the only viable option was to put the belt on Jericho. Had WWE actually treated him as "the guy," I think he'd have made a bigger impact, but even in his matches, they only focused on someone wanting the belt. They treated him as a mid-carder, but gave him the World Title. For me, though, the worst was Kane. It made no sense and lasted less than a day. It was Austin vs. Undertaker, random Kane victory and subsequent loss, then right back to Austin vs. Undertaker. At least when Andre had his 3 second title reign, it served a purpose.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Feb 25, 2014 12:43:28 GMT -5
Probably Jericho. First ever Undisputed champion, wrestling was still pretty hot at the time, had opponents like Rock, Austin and HHH to work with, and he was still awful. Unless he's had a good WWE title reign since that I've forgotten, but that's not exactly a good sign either if he has and I don't even remember it. I don't really think that was Jericho's fault. It was Jericho's fault in the same way that Miz was responsible for his reign.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2014 12:45:05 GMT -5
I don't really think that was Jericho's fault. It was Jericho's fault in the same way that Miz was responsible for his reign. I haven't watched current programming in a while, so I know nothing about Miz's reign.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Feb 25, 2014 12:55:56 GMT -5
It was Jericho's fault in the same way that Miz was responsible for his reign. I haven't watched current programming in a while, so I know nothing about Miz's reign. Same kind of deal as Jericho's, but with much colder opponents on the Road to WrestleMania. Jericho: Rock at Royal Rumble, Austin at No Way Out. Miz: Orton at Royal Rumble, Lawler at Elimination Chamber.
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Post by Kanenite on Feb 25, 2014 13:06:20 GMT -5
Del Rio. Should of never won the WWE title.
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Post by mrassbillygunn on Feb 25, 2014 13:47:37 GMT -5
Yea like someone else stated, Bob Backlund he was just sooo hokey. Flairs run as champ in 92 wasnt great either. Diesel, Khali God the list goes on. Never remember anything entertaining with their run as champs.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2014 14:04:19 GMT -5
It was Jericho's fault in the same way that Miz was responsible for his reign. I haven't watched current programming in a while, so I know nothing about Miz's reign. He was a 2nd fiddle bystander on TRTWM. Jericho played 2nd fiddle to the real feud in HHH vs Stephanie. Y2J was regularly treated as a joke and it showed with fan interest at WM......people can blame Hogan/Rock all they want....fact was HHH vs Jericho was poorly booked dross. Miz played 2nd fiddle to the real feud in Rock vs Cena. Cena laughed at Miz after Miz cost him his "dream" at RR.....if Cena didn't care about being eliminated or fighting Miz why should we?
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Feb 25, 2014 14:17:48 GMT -5
I never cared for Foley's WWE Title reigns. I know that the night he won it on Raw was pretty cool, and that entire show was actually really good and the fans were so hot for it, but I felt it took away from the whole "Austin vs. Rock" thing they had going on. I think that if Rock had kept the WWE Title from S. Series 98 up until WM 15 losing it to Austin, it would have been much more appreciated than what it was. When Austin won it at WM 15 it just felt like an ordinary title change. There was no hype to it like there could have been if Rock had a steady reign for 6 months.
Sadly though - and just not in Foley's case - but in any transitional champion they look bad. Foley, Backlund, Slaughter, Sid, I mean these guys were just given the belt, only to be handed back to someone else that Vince felt was the star.
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Post by cordless2016 on Feb 25, 2014 22:11:21 GMT -5
Backlund's 94 run is a good one imo. It was essentially Owen Hart's run, and I don't understand why it happened, at all. Yokozuna just over stayed his welcome. I didn't mind him being champion, it was more so how long he was champion. Yokozuna should have gotten more of a Slaughter run, so the Rumble to Mania type of deal, which is why I don't have a problem with Slaughter's run because he was a transitional champion and people legitimately wanted to murder him. Miz never had a chance. I mean they put him in a feud with King. He was abused his entire title reign, and that's primarily because he was over stepping his ability, in a gigantic way. I would agree he wasn't very deserving of the title. I could say the exact same thing for Alberto Del Rio as well. They put the title on him to tour Mexico but he has the charisma of a paper bag. It also ed with Summer of Punk because he was involved in a title picture he should have been nowhere near. Del Rio is probably my least favorite WWE Champion ever because Del Rio is one of my least favorite wrestlers, ever. Jeff Hardy won the title because he was the most over guy in the company. I love Edge, but Hardy was more deserving of a solid title reign around 08-09 than Edge. "Sloppy in the ring" is kind of his thing. He's a crash test dummy. If you don't like that type of reckless abandonment then fine but he earned a place at the top by getting over imo. Technically speaking, Rey Mysterio is a former WWE Champion. He had no business being champion, especially at that time, and it doesn't even make sense that they gave it to him for the 2 hours that they did. I guess it wasn't even long enough to blink through but still. I don't know, I have a hard time not saying Backlund here personally. Thankfully, Diesel destroyed him. As I said Miz was dead in the water from the moment he won the title. He wasn't believable going up against Orton or Sheamus. Hell King was believable as a challenger to him. If fans didn't buy him as even with Orton then no way they'd buy him against Cena and Rock. As for Jeff I never bought him as the top dog. Yeah he was unique and kids loved him but fans have to buy the star holding the top title. Same as with Miz I don't think many people bought Jeff on the same level as HHH, Edge, and Taker at the time. I don't like to include guys like Backlund (2nd reign), Kane, McMahon, Mysterio, and Bryan in this thread because they were simply transitional champs but yeah if we include them they'd technically have to be up there.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Feb 25, 2014 22:59:43 GMT -5
Sheamus wasn't a very good WWE Champion either.
Yet, he was one of the best World Champions we've had in the past 5 years or so.
I think it's all about how they are booked, who they are booked against, and if they are meant to be seen as the star. Which is funny, cause I always figured the WWE Champion was supposed to be the main star.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2014 23:22:58 GMT -5
I don't like to include guys like Backlund (2nd reign), Kane, McMahon, Mysterio, and Bryan in this thread because they were simply transitional champs but yeah if we include them they'd technically have to be up there. Kane wasn't really even a transitional champion, though, which is why I named him. He won it from and lost it to Stone Cold within 24 hours, and it was during the middle of the Austin vs. 'Taker feud. It was completely random and pointless.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2014 6:48:51 GMT -5
Its close between Miz and Del Rio.........big sh+t stain on the belts legacy........
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2014 11:20:27 GMT -5
Yea like someone else stated, Bob Backlund he was just sooo hokey. Flairs run as champ in 92 wasnt great either. Diesel, Khali God the list goes on. Never remember anything entertaining with their run as champs. Diesel had a couple sweet matches. One of my all time favorites is his match with Bret at the Survivor Series.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Feb 26, 2014 14:18:17 GMT -5
Yea like someone else stated, Bob Backlund he was just sooo hokey. Flairs run as champ in 92 wasnt great either. Diesel, Khali God the list goes on. Never remember anything entertaining with their run as champs. Diesel had a great year as Champion. I wouldn't say he was a bad champion at all! He had great matches with Bret Hart on two PPVs, wrestled HBK at WM 11, worked with Sid for three straight PPVs in a row, had a nice tag match with HBK vs. Yoko & Bulldog, and had some good TV matches with Jeff Jarrett and Bam Bam Bigelow. The only match that wasn't that great for Diesel was vs. British Bulldog. I think it was because it was two power man in the ring, and one was 7 feet tall, the other was 5'9" tall. It just didn't mesh well.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2014 14:27:04 GMT -5
Yea like someone else stated, Bob Backlund he was just sooo hokey. Flairs run as champ in 92 wasnt great either. Diesel, Khali God the list goes on. Never remember anything entertaining with their run as champs. Diesel had a great year as Champion. I wouldn't say he was a bad champion at all! He had great matches with Bret Hart on two PPVs, wrestled HBK at WM 11, worked with Sid for three straight PPVs in a row, had a nice tag match with HBK vs. Yoko & Bulldog, and had some good TV matches with Jeff Jarrett and Bam Bam Bigelow. The only match that wasn't that great for Diesel was vs. British Bulldog. I think it was because it was two power man in the ring, and one was 7 feet tall, the other was 5'9" tall. It just didn't mesh well. I think a lot of the issue is that Diesel's Summerslam match was with ing Mabel.
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Post by knupmc on Feb 26, 2014 15:50:34 GMT -5
The miz by far
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Post by CMPUNKISGOOD on Feb 26, 2014 15:50:48 GMT -5
Miz.
Jeff Hardy's region could of been better. It should of been Hardy vs Hardy for the belt at WM25 IMO.
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