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Post by cripplercrossface on Mar 8, 2014 13:35:34 GMT -5
Well I have been watching a lot of old PPVs of late; and I started thinking why some of the talent did not hold the WWE/WWF title.
In my views they're have been many great performers who could have held the title. For example, Junkyard Dog. He was very talented, and could have made a good champion. Others I would pick: Rowdy Roddy Piper Big John Stud Mr. Perfect Tito Santana Ravishing Rick Rude Bundy Vader Ted Dibiase Jim Duggan Jimmy Snuka British Bulldog Big Bossman Ricky Steamboat - among others from 80's to early 90's.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2014 13:43:09 GMT -5
He's held it before but I think Shawn Michaels should have held it during the 2000's
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2014 13:54:51 GMT -5
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Post by hbkowns on Mar 8, 2014 14:13:07 GMT -5
Well I have been watching a lot of old PPVs of late; and I started thinking why some of the talent did not hold the WWE/WWF title. In my views they're have been many great performers who could have held the title. For example, Junkyard Dog. He was very talented, and could have made a good champion. Others I would pick: Rowdy Roddy Piper Big John Stud Mr. Perfect Tito Santana Ravishing Rick Rude Bundy Vader Ted Dibiase Jim Duggan Jimmy Snuka British Bulldog Big Bossman Ricky Steamboat - among others from 80's to early 90's. You have to realize that not everyone is title worthy just because they have talent. It's not something that should get passed around to who hasn't held it yet. Jim Duggan, Tito Santana, Big Boss man, King Kong Bundy , and Vader are all guys that don't fit the main event category. And despite how talented Owen was, I think people tend to overrate the guy because of his tragic death. People said that he was in line for a huge push but he was given that stupid blue blazer gimmick. BACK THEN when you were champ, you were the top guy in the company who was representing it. You put asses in seats, sold buttloads of merchandise, drew ratings in, etc. Most of those guys you listed were mid-card players for a reason. Just because you had talent doesn't mean you hold the strap. Just doesn't work like that.
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Post by jayrod2009 on Mar 8, 2014 14:14:39 GMT -5
Hardcore Holly during his in-ring/real life feud with Brock Lesnar.
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Post by Chip on Mar 8, 2014 14:34:44 GMT -5
Ted DiBiase Mr. Perfect Razor Ramon Ricky Steamboat Roddy Piper Vader
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Mar 8, 2014 14:35:51 GMT -5
None. There's nobody that never held the title, particularly in the 80s and early 90s, who would have been a better champion than the guy who did hold it at the time. There was never a time when Ted DiBiase or Mr Perfect should have beaten Hogan, Savage or Warrior for the title.
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Post by Prophet of Ash on Mar 8, 2014 14:36:30 GMT -5
Piper, Studd, DiBiase, and Rude couldn't have been anything other than transitional champions. The WWF champion was always a babyface pretty much, until the late 90s. Even when Superstar Graham won it as a heel, he basically became a babyfaced heel by the end of it. Bundy & Perfect were never even top heels. Bundy only got the Mania 2 main event because they had already done Piper vs. Hogan 1 on 1 and it wouldn't have worked on Mania. Steamboat was NEVER a huge deal in WWF and never a bigger deal than Hogan (and for most of his 86/87 run when he was at his peak, he was playing second fiddle to George Steele too!). Snuka was never a top draw. Duggan was a mid carder at his peak and a lower mid carder for most of his run. Loved by fans but never a serious threat for anything. Big Boss Man couldn't have carried the company. Period. For any length of time.
Vader and British Bulldog are the only two that can really be argued. Vader SHOULD have beat Shawn for it at Summerslam 96 and then dropped it at Survivor Series 96. Bulldog probably should've beat Shawn for it at Beware of Dog and may have been penciled in to win it before the power went out. I could see Shawn Michaels in 1996 using a power outage as political leverage to not lose the title.
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Post by LostHawk05 on Mar 8, 2014 16:16:58 GMT -5
The British Bulldog should have be given at least one reign as champ.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Mar 8, 2014 16:18:02 GMT -5
None. There's nobody that never held the title, particularly in the 80s and early 90s, who would have been a better champion than the guy who did hold it at the time. There was never a time when Ted DiBiase or Mr Perfect should have beaten Hogan, Savage or Warrior for the title. WWE is perfect.
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Post by Squid: The Anti-Hero on Mar 8, 2014 16:29:00 GMT -5
Regal, not the wwe championship but the world heavyweight
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Post by bad guy™ on Mar 8, 2014 16:34:24 GMT -5
Regal, not the wwe championship but the world heavyweight During his feud with Cena, Regal was so over as a heel it was unbelievable. And if they were willing to give the WWE Championship to a guy like Del Rio, then Regal should have won it had he not been a dolt and got his push ended because of it.
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Post by Squid: The Anti-Hero on Mar 8, 2014 16:35:41 GMT -5
Regal, not the wwe championship but the world heavyweight During his feud with Cena, Regal was so over as a heel it was unbelievable. And if they were willing to give the WWE Championship to a guy like Del Rio, then Regal should have won it had he not been a dolt and got his push ended because of it. Exactly
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2014 16:59:22 GMT -5
None. There's nobody that never held the title, particularly in the 80s and early 90s, who would have been a better champion than the guy who did hold it at the time. There was never a time when Ted DiBiase or Mr Perfect should have beaten Hogan, Savage or Warrior for the title. I disagree. SGT Slaughter's garbage reign would have easily been more appropriate for Hennig or Earthquake. Hogan's feud with Sarge got a great payoff at SS91, his feuds with Hennig and Quake never did and they were both far better than a past it Sarge. And there's no reason why Backlund shoulda got the 94 reign, when Vince was trying to promote the new generation of stars it made ZERO sense putting it on a guy from before Hogan's time. Had that title reign gone to Owen, it would have furthered the feud between he and Bret which could have led to a big payoff at a WM rather than Raw, most likely greatly improving WM11, and would have left Vince with another former champion when Bret, Warrior and Diesel had all left in mid 96.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Mar 8, 2014 18:41:58 GMT -5
None. There's nobody that never held the title, particularly in the 80s and early 90s, who would have been a better champion than the guy who did hold it at the time. There was never a time when Ted DiBiase or Mr Perfect should have beaten Hogan, Savage or Warrior for the title. I disagree. SGT Slaughter's garbage reign would have easily been more appropriate for Hennig or Earthquake. Hogan's feud with Sarge got a great payoff at SS91, his feuds with Hennig and Quake never did and they were both far better than a past it Sarge. Nope. Hennig vs Hogan had underperformed already over a year prior. Hogan vs Warrior in a rematch at 7 would've been much bigger than Hogan vs Slaughter... But Warrior isn't in the "never won the belt" club. It made perfect sense for Diesel, leader of the new generation, to beat a guy from before Hogan's time... A guy who was a legend at MSG, no less. And as much as it might excite Hart family enthusiasts to fantasy-book, there's no way the WWF was ever doing Bret vs Owen at WrestleMania X, SummerSlam, Survivor Series and WrestleMania XI. It made much more sense to do the "modern wrestling guy vs olden-time wrestling guy" feud with Bret vs Backlund than it would have to keep pretending Owen Hart was main event material.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2014 18:59:48 GMT -5
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Mar 8, 2014 19:16:57 GMT -5
Billy Gunn. He was huge in 1999 but The Rock ruined his push by burying him at Summerslam. An uncrowned champion in my opinion.
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Post by Boy Wonder on Mar 8, 2014 19:43:30 GMT -5
Vader and Mr. Perfect are the two biggest ones that come to mind for me. If NOD Farrooq was around before the Austin era started up, maybe him too.
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Post by LtD73 on Mar 8, 2014 19:45:36 GMT -5
Mr. Perfect
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Post by knupmc on Mar 8, 2014 19:46:05 GMT -5
John morrison
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