Duke Silver
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Post by Duke Silver on Apr 3, 2014 13:48:34 GMT -5
I'm on a road trip to New Orleans for Wrestlemania with a buddy of mine and he bought Ring of Honor tickets for Friday for my birthday. And we kind of debated about whether having other promotions piggybacking off of Wrestlemania was - pun intended - "good for business."
Now that wwe is taking steps in making sure other promotions aren't allowed to do it anymore, does it hurt the business overall or is it right for wwe to make sure fans aren't exposed to other brands of wrestling?
*I hope everyone enjoys WM weekend!
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Post by Road Warriors on Apr 3, 2014 13:54:05 GMT -5
You bet your ass it's good for business. The WWE is in the wrestling business and any and all wrestling that happens that weekend is not only good for them but the fans which is what WrestleMania weekend is all about anyway.
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Post by Johnny Wrestling on Apr 3, 2014 13:58:43 GMT -5
It is pretty much monopolizing the wrestling market, which, for the WWE, is good for business. For the fans? It sucks and it is in no way, shape or form good.
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Post by Road Warriors on Apr 3, 2014 14:05:38 GMT -5
It is pretty much monopolizing the wrestling market, which, for the WWE, is good for business. For the fans? It sucks and it is in no way, shape or form good. Don't see how it sucks for fans when pretty much all the top Indy promotions run there this weekend. The talent and workrate will be top notch. |
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Apr 3, 2014 14:31:34 GMT -5
I'm on a road trip to New Orleans for Wrestlemania with a buddy of mine and he bought Ring of Honor tickets for Friday for my birthday. And we kind of debated about whether having other promotions piggybacking off of Wrestlemania was - pun intended - "good for business." Now that wwe is taking steps in making sure other promotions aren't allowed to do it anymore, does it hurt the business overall or is it right for wwe to make sure fans aren't exposed to other brands of wrestling? *I hope everyone enjoys WM weekend! It's absolutely right for them to shut it down and provide enough avenues for fans to spend their money on official WWE stuff rather than inferior products. If they can keep enough WWE activities going all week/weekend to entertain fans in town, then it'd be silly to let the minor league shows run. Those minor shows could have all manner of deathmatches, poor management, bad behaviour from minor league wrestlers etc that gives visiting fans or the local community a bad experience or bad impression of wrestling. Apparently they're thinking of running NXT shows in small venues over WrestleMania weekend next year. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2014 14:38:58 GMT -5
Good for WWE, but like I said when it came out they were gonna try and block them in the town of WM, if the indies all ran in a town close by they'd still be just as fine.
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Post by ZT on Apr 3, 2014 15:00:50 GMT -5
I'm on a road trip to New Orleans for Wrestlemania with a buddy of mine and he bought Ring of Honor tickets for Friday for my birthday. And we kind of debated about whether having other promotions piggybacking off of Wrestlemania was - pun intended - "good for business." Now that wwe is taking steps in making sure other promotions aren't allowed to do it anymore, does it hurt the business overall or is it right for wwe to make sure fans aren't exposed to other brands of wrestling? *I hope everyone enjoys WM weekend! It's absolutely right for them to shut it down and provide enough avenues for fans to spend their money on official WWE stuff rather than inferior products. If they can keep enough WWE activities going all week/weekend to entertain fans in town, then it'd be silly to let the minor league shows run. Those minor shows could have all manner of deathmatches, poor management, bad behaviour from minor league wrestlers etc that gives visiting fans or the local community a bad experience or bad impression of wrestling. Apparently they're thinking of running NXT shows in small venues over WrestleMania weekend next year. I'm going to guess that you've never actually seen any of the indie shows and are making stupidly wild assumptions because of it. These are not your local weekend warrior sh*t promotions we're talking about here. Companies like Ring of Honor and Dragon Gate USA have produced quite a few guys being featured by WWE this weekend, including the guy that the entire show has been built around! Guys like Cesaro, Rollins, and Bryan have been a part of several WrestleMania weekend shows in the past that didn't involve WWE. Yeah, some no-talent hacks those guys are, right? |
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Apr 3, 2014 15:14:54 GMT -5
The WWE is locking out venues in the Santa Clara region for WrestleMania. I guess the WWE is finally seeing outside promotions trying to cash-in and make some money due to the amount of people WrestleMania generates. As Next Man’s Knowing Rock alluded to in his post, the WWE is planning to have NXT house shows in those locked venues. Seems to be a bad business tactic but it is the WWE's way of trying to maximize the amount people cash the WWE can milk out of the wallets of thousands. |
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Apr 3, 2014 15:54:43 GMT -5
Guys like Cesaro, Rollins, and Bryan have been a part of several WrestleMania weekend shows in the past that didn't involve WWE. Yeah, some no-talent hacks those guys are, right? Everybody starts out somewhere. The good ones then make it to WWE developmental and, if they're good enough, the main roster. |
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Post by Hitman Bono on Apr 3, 2014 16:15:14 GMT -5
I'm on a road trip to New Orleans for Wrestlemania with a buddy of mine and he bought Ring of Honor tickets for Friday for my birthday. And we kind of debated about whether having other promotions piggybacking off of Wrestlemania was - pun intended - "good for business." Now that wwe is taking steps in making sure other promotions aren't allowed to do it anymore, does it hurt the business overall or is it right for wwe to make sure fans aren't exposed to other brands of wrestling? *I hope everyone enjoys WM weekend! It's absolutely right for them to shut it down and provide enough avenues for fans to spend their money on official WWE stuff rather than inferior products. If they can keep enough WWE activities going all week/weekend to entertain fans in town, then it'd be silly to let the minor league shows run. Those minor shows could have all manner of deathmatches, poor management, bad behaviour from minor league wrestlers etc that gives visiting fans or the local community a bad experience or bad impression of wrestling. Apparently they're thinking of running NXT shows in small venues over WrestleMania weekend next year. I'm not trying to start an argument. I'm not trying to come across as an @sshole. You are uninformed. I'm not slurring you or anything, I'm just letting you know that you are uninformed. Here, this is the definition of a word that might come across formented, so I'll leave the word out...
1.lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated.EDIT:Everybody starts out somewhere. The good ones then make it to WWE developmental and, if they're good enough, the main roster. Typical ignorant WWE fan boy response.  You obviously have no awareness of anything other than The 'E. That's not a bad thing until you go around saying things like more people know who Bastion Booger is compared to Jushin Liger. You're opinion of the current Indie scene is based off of circa 2000 local news reports. You have no idea that one of these "inferior products" produced the 2006 MOTY during a Wrestlemania weekend show in Chicago. You don't know that The 'E sends agents or scouts to these shows, which makes the talent work smarter/harder/better during these shows. Once again, I'd like to point out that I'm not calling you stupid or a bad person or anything. Just saying that if you're going to make these uninformed comments, people are going to disagree. |
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Apr 3, 2014 16:22:51 GMT -5
You don't know that The 'E sends agents or scouts to these shows, which makes the talent work smarter/harder/better during these shows. Of course I know that WWE (or "The 'E" to certain kinds of fans) sends talent scouts to small-time shows. I also know that that doesn't stop them from being small-time shows, just like a college scout being at a high school game doesn't make it an NFL game. It's fine to like the small-time stuff, and for a minor league match to be your favourite match of the year in 2006. It makes you feel like you're sticking it to the man and being counter-culture and "informed" all that, and that's all very cute. And absolutely, the minor league talent step it up when there are scouts in town... Which they wouldn't do if they didn't want to make it to the big time. But anything negative that comes out of one of those minor league shows can reflect badly on the real wrestling promotion and any money going into minor league pockets isn't going into Vinnie Mac's pocket, which is why the real promotion wants to monopolise a city on WrestleMania weekend. |
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Post by Hitman Bono on Apr 3, 2014 16:41:10 GMT -5
You don't know that The 'E sends agents or scouts to these shows, which makes the talent work smarter/harder/better during these shows. Of course I know that WWE (or "The 'E" to certain kinds of fans) sends talent scouts to small-time shows. I also know that that doesn't stop them from being small-time shows, just like a college scout being at a high school game doesn't make it an NFL game. It's fine to like the small-time stuff, and for a minor league match to be your favourite match of the year in 2006. It makes you feel like you're sticking it to the man and being counter-culture and "informed" all that, and that's all very cute. And absolutely, the minor league talent step it up when there are scouts in town... Which they wouldn't do if they didn't want to make it to the big time. But anything negative that comes out of one of those minor league shows can reflect badly on the real wrestling promotion and any money going into minor league pockets isn't going into Vinnie Mac's pocket, which is why the real promotion wants to monopolise a city on WrestleMania weekend. Once again, ignorance rears it's ugly head in your post. I didn't say that Do Fixer/Blood Generation was my favorite match of 2006. I said that it was the 2006 MOTY. As in the most prestigious Pro Wrestling periodical and it's readers named it MOTY 2006. A periodical that voted John Cena into their HoF, which shows that it's not "counter culture" at all. lol, I like how you said "or The 'E" to certain kinds of fans" like you were getting one over on me or something. That really make me laugh out loud... Once again, not being an @ss, just pointing out that you post in a way that's confrontational. But you're ignorance on what your posting combined with the confrontational manner of your posts isn't a good mix IMO. |
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Post by Sleeping Like An Angel on Apr 3, 2014 16:44:17 GMT -5
You don't know that The 'E sends agents or scouts to these shows, which makes the talent work smarter/harder/better during these shows. Of course I know that WWE (or "The 'E" to certain kinds of fans) sends talent scouts to small-time shows. I also know that that doesn't stop them from being small-time shows, just like a college scout being at a high school game doesn't make it an NFL game. It's fine to like the small-time stuff, and for a minor league match to be your favourite match of the year in 2006. It makes you feel like you're sticking it to the man and being counter-culture and "informed" all that, and that's all very cute. And absolutely, the minor league talent step it up when there are scouts in town... Which they wouldn't do if they didn't want to make it to the big time. But anything negative that comes out of one of those minor league shows can reflect badly on the real wrestling promotion and any money going into minor league pockets isn't going into Vinnie Mac's pocket, which is why the real promotion wants to monopolise a city on WrestleMania weekend. I realise you're basically trolling and all of that, but I'm still gonna bite just on this one thing. You call WWE a "real" promotion. WWE is certainly THE promotion, it's the number one and always will be, but it's no more "real" than Ring of Honor, Dragon Gate or Chikara is. |
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Apr 3, 2014 16:52:16 GMT -5
Once again, ignorance rears it's ugly head in your post. I didn't say that Do Fixer/Blood Generation was my favorite match of 2006. I said that it was the 2006 MOTY. As in the most prestigious Pro Wrestling periodical and it's readers named it MOTY 2006. A periodical that voted John Cena into their HoF, which shows that it's not "counter culture" at all. lol, I like how you said "or The 'E" to certain kinds of fans" like you were getting one over on me or something. That really make me laugh out loud... Once again, not being an @ss, just pointing out that you post in a way that's confrontational. But you're ignorance on what your posting combined with the confrontational manner of your posts isn't a good mix IMO. Not being confrontational or anything, but calling someone "ignorant" or "uninformed" because they don't like the small-time wrestling that you like is kinda being an "@ss." Plus, not being confrontational but calling someone ignorant when your posts are ignorant of the language they're posted in isn't a good mix either IMHO. I'm not trying to start a fight or insult you, just helping you out. With assistance from CM Punk (who was in MOTY 2011 as voted by the readers of the most prestigious Pro Wrestling periodical). |
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Apr 3, 2014 16:55:37 GMT -5
I realise you're basically trolling and all of that, but I'm still gonna bite just on this one thing. You call WWE a "real" promotion. WWE is certainly THE promotion, it's the number one and always will be, but it's no more "real" than Ring of Honor, Dragon Gate or Chikara is. I apologise if the phrasing upset you. It's just semantics, but yeah, perhaps using THE promotion would've been more economical than "the real promotion." Although it is more real to the New Orleans economy, which is why it's able to block out the small companies, right? |
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Post by Tye Hyll on Apr 3, 2014 16:56:56 GMT -5
I say good luck to WWE thinking it can lock out other promotions. It won't happen.
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Post by Tye Hyll on Apr 3, 2014 16:58:24 GMT -5
I realise you're basically trolling and all of that, but I'm still gonna bite just on this one thing. You call WWE a "real" promotion. WWE is certainly THE promotion, it's the number one and always will be, but it's no more "real" than Ring of Honor, Dragon Gate or Chikara is. I apologise if the phrasing upset you. It's just semantics, but yeah, perhaps using THE promotion would've been more economical than "the real promotion." Although it is more real to the New Orleans economy, which is why it's able to block out the small companies, right? WWE has blocked out nothing....They are attempting it next year which will not work. |
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Apr 3, 2014 17:03:38 GMT -5
I apologise if the phrasing upset you. It's just semantics, but yeah, perhaps using THE promotion would've been more economical than "the real promotion." Although it is more real to the New Orleans economy, which is why it's able to block out the small companies, right? WWE has blocked out nothing....They are attempting it next year which will not work. Yeah, but it's their impact on New Orleans, NY/NJ, etc every previous year that lets them pull the dick move next year, isn't it? Is it not working though? I figured it was logistically pretty tough to actually enforce, but I thought there were promoters saying that the closest venue they could book for 31 was an hour away from Santa Clara. |
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Post by Hitman Bono on Apr 3, 2014 17:05:09 GMT -5
Once again, ignorance rears it's ugly head in your post. I didn't say that Do Fixer/Blood Generation was my favorite match of 2006. I said that it was the 2006 MOTY. As in the most prestigious Pro Wrestling periodical and it's readers named it MOTY 2006. A periodical that voted John Cena into their HoF, which shows that it's not "counter culture" at all. lol, I like how you said "or The 'E" to certain kinds of fans" like you were getting one over on me or something. That really make me laugh out loud... Once again, not being an @ss, just pointing out that you post in a way that's confrontational. But you're ignorance on what your posting combined with the confrontational manner of your posts isn't a good mix IMO. Not being confrontational or anything, but calling someone "ignorant" or "uninformed" because they don't like the small-time wrestling that you like is kinda being an "@ss." Plus, not being confrontational but calling someone ignorant when your posts are ignorant of the language they're posted in isn't a good mix either IMHO. I'm not trying to start a fight or insult you, just helping you out. With assistance from CM Punk (who was in MOTY 2011 as voted by the readers of the most prestigious Pro Wrestling periodical). lol! And ta think, I was going to make a "WWE Monopolise!" remark pointing out your (thanks!) many spelling errors. Ignorance is the absence of knowledge. It's not a put down man. Calling someone stupid is being confrontational, calling someone ignorant isn't. BTW, I shot ya a PM. I think I could steer ya a couple of places that could really help you out. You've obviously posted here a lot and are a big fan, and if sending you a couple of links to become better educated could stop your reign of trolling the board is all it takes, I'd be happy to bite the bullet and help you out. |
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Apr 3, 2014 17:07:49 GMT -5
And ta think, I was going to make a "WWE Monopolise!" remark pointing out your (thanks!) many spelling errors. ? I'm not sure if you're under the impression that "monopolise" is a real word. You can PM me if you want, I don't want to derail the thread. |
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