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Post by Halloween King on May 1, 2014 20:53:05 GMT -5
For WWE to do is change up the brand name a little. They purchased the rights to ECW, AWA, and I dont know how many other companys. And they bought out WCW. So I dont see why they dont run shows under those names? I feel it would be a nice change in pace.
They have the television time. WOuldnt it be cool if instead of a 3 hr raw they cut raw down to 2 hrs and used that first hr to put on a show under a name that isnt wwe? Like how about an hr of AWA before raw? They could test out new characters under the new company/show. If it succeeds then wwe could poach the good talent and ignore the failures. Kinda like in the territory days.
I thought about this cause I see wwe does something called Nxt. It caught my eye cause the ropes and ring skirt are different, BUT it says wwe all over it. I just liked the different look. It reminded me of how different companys have different ring skirts and mats and everything.
Many companys operate under different brand names. Mattel owns both Hot Wheels and it's main competitor Matchbox. Same with Gap, Old Navy, Banana Republic and Piperlime, its all basically the same company, same owner but different presentations.
I just wonder why wwe doesnt do this.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2014 21:16:29 GMT -5
Well...
They did with ECW and it sucked.
They also tried to make WCW it's own brand and tv show immediately after purchasing in 2001 but networks didn't want to have anything to do with it and I doubt they would 13 years later either.
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Post by marino13 on May 1, 2014 21:33:24 GMT -5
In a perfect world wCw or ECW would exist under the WWE banner but with different people in charge. I would have loved back when ECW was revived had WWE just let Paul E. do what Paul E. does without interfering. Same could have been said when Bischoff was under contract. Give them the opportunity to succeed, but with WWE profiting.
But as we know it's not a perfect world. And it'll never happen at this point.
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Post by Sleeping Like An Angel on May 1, 2014 21:34:46 GMT -5
Well... They did with ECW and it sucked.They also tried to make WCW it's own brand and tv show immediately after purchasing in 2001 but networks didn't want to have anything to do with it and I doubt they would 13 years later either. Watch your mouth. Compared to actual ECW it was crap, but during it's twilight, WWECW was the best wrestling show on TV.
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Post by Midnight on May 1, 2014 21:38:41 GMT -5
That's a great idea but unfortunately i don't see it happening.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2014 22:11:49 GMT -5
I would love that too, but the overall brand of WWE had to be seen as superior to all others...even something WITHIN the WWE.
I also believe this is a reason why the 'Alliance' was so awful, purely because Vince couldn't have WCW and ECW VS WWE, it HAD to be WWE VS The Alliance, so the only brand name you see is WWE...very clever by Vince but also - what's the harm on actually mentioning (inactive) competitors since you now own them?
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2014 22:55:20 GMT -5
Well... They did with ECW and it sucked.They also tried to make WCW it's own brand and tv show immediately after purchasing in 2001 but networks didn't want to have anything to do with it and I doubt they would 13 years later either. Watch your mouth. Compared to actual ECW it was crap, but during it's twilight, WWECW was the best wrestling show on TV. It was ok for a few weeks. Once Big Show vs. Batista was in the main event it was all over.
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Post by Sleeping Like An Angel on May 1, 2014 22:58:14 GMT -5
Watch your mouth. Compared to actual ECW it was crap, but during it's twilight, WWECW was the best wrestling show on TV. It was ok for a few weeks. Once Big Show vs. Batista was in the main event it was all over. That era was crap. But the Christian/Zack Ryder/William Regal era was pretty wicked.
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Post by slappy on May 1, 2014 22:58:31 GMT -5
Watch your mouth. Compared to actual ECW it was crap, but during it's twilight, WWECW was the best wrestling show on TV. It was ok for a few weeks. Once Big Show vs. Batista was in the main event it was all over. It got significantly better after that. Sitting through awful Raws knowing we'd have to just wait one more day to see ECW. WWECW was the best wrestling show.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2014 23:02:20 GMT -5
It was ok for a few weeks. Once Big Show vs. Batista was in the main event it was all over. It got significantly better after that. Sitting through awful Raws knowing we'd have to just wait one more day to see ECW. WWECW was the best wrestling show. Now that I think back... I must admit that I really did like the John Morrison vs. CM Punk feud for the title. All of that Bobby Lashley/Vince McMahon stuff was trash though. Didn't Chavo even have the belt at one point? Matt Hardy and Christian having it was ok as well. Mike Knox sucked. Test sucked. Ezekiel Jackson being the last ECW champion sucked. I dunno. It was a REAL mixed bag for me.
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Post by slappy on May 1, 2014 23:15:40 GMT -5
It got significantly better after that. Sitting through awful Raws knowing we'd have to just wait one more day to see ECW. WWECW was the best wrestling show. Now that I think back... I must admit that I really did like the John Morrison vs. CM Punk feud for the title. All of that Bobby Lashley/Vince McMahon stuff was trash though. Didn't Chavo even have the belt at one point? Matt Hardy and Christian having it was ok as well. Mike Knox sucked. Test sucked. Ezekiel Jackson being the last ECW champion sucked. I dunno. It was a REAL mixed bag for me. Morrison/Punk and Lashley/Vince stuff was different from the last two years. Chavo held it. Zeke being champion was perfect. It fit with the storyline. Regal tried and tried to be champion but couldn't. The evil GM, who was masquerading as a face, Tiffany did what she could to stop him. Regal managed two guys, Kozlov and Zeke. They were the Ruthless Roundtable. Regal finally got the ECW title in his hands but around the waist of the man he was aligned with.
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Post by Ian from 616Entertainment. on May 1, 2014 23:45:16 GMT -5
It doesn't make any sense. It creates brand confusion, actually makes WWE look smaller to the dumb dumbs out there who don't realize it's a WWE production.
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Post by JC Motors on May 2, 2014 11:21:10 GMT -5
Well... They did with ECW and it sucked. They also tried to make WCW it's own brand and tv show immediately after purchasing in 2001 but networks didn't want to have anything to do with it and I doubt they would 13 years later either. Exactly. WWE ECW was never the same as original ECW
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Post by Halloween King on May 2, 2014 14:01:01 GMT -5
It doesn't make any sense. It creates brand confusion, actually makes WWE look smaller to the dumb dumbs out there who don't realize it's a WWE production. Maybe? But the example already exists all over corporate America. Look at grocery stores. Look at Safeway, they are one company but they operate under multiple different names. Same with Albertsons and Supervalue. Look at Mattel, they as also one company but with lots of brands. Look at Con Agra, one company, you've prob never heard of, yet they have so many brands under their company. I personally dont see it as making a company look smaller, I see it as a company diversifying. I'm prob just wanting wrestling variety instead of the cookie cutter wrestling we get in wwe these days? I just think if wwe wanted to do this they could. People will say networks wont go for it but then I remember that wwf gave cable companys the ultimatum. Either you run what we want or you get nothing. Money talks. Im sure a network would allow wwe to run 1 hr of "non wwe" wrestling in order to retain Raw. Like I said, it's just me thinking this. I havnt watched wwe in at least 7 years. Just because it looks so lame and repetitive to me. I think a new company would be a breath of fresh air.
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Post by greenjack1992 on May 2, 2014 19:15:22 GMT -5
Why not have new companies get formed under the WWE umbrella without acknowledging WWE as the "main roster" all the time?
Like, I want guys to be fighting over the NXT championship because they want to be the NXT champion, not because it means they might get to jump up to appearances on RAW and SmackDown!.
You could have invasion storylines between WWE's "main roster" and the other promotions, or you could have invasion storylines between the other promotions and have everyone competing as if they were different companies but WWE gets all the profit.
I'm kind of hammered so take everything I'm saying with a pinch of salt here.
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Post by Flair Forever on May 2, 2014 19:57:36 GMT -5
The poster above me is on to a few things..... I'd like to make a few points:
1. They are kind of doing NXT almost as a "separate" promotion - at least, more than they normally have done in the past.... I agree, they should try to make NXT as separate as possible - much like a "rival promotion." I give them credit for doing NXT much better than they did ECW..... or WCW. Baby steps, WWE..... keep going....
2. I think they should have periodic "Revivals" of older brands - much like ECW One Night Stand.... I think the PPV's could benefit from some of the older brands (Halloween Havoc, Great American Bash, etc)... treat them kind of like "Legends Reunions", bring back some of the old stars of these promotions (Ric Flair, Sting, etc)... and still feature the newer guys in matches..... I think that's the best way to get new life out of the old brands.
3. Maybe this summer when they start showing Nitro & "The Monday Night Wars" on the WWE Network - enough chatter will generate to get a WCW revival going? I doubt it, though.... but I know I'd be tuning in....
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Post by Word™ on May 2, 2014 20:00:48 GMT -5
WWE has trouble running the shows they have now.. The last thing they need is another show.
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Post by Chief on May 3, 2014 22:42:23 GMT -5
My biggest response to this is - Why?
What would they gain by doing this?
They already do NXT which is 100% what you want them to do.
They've built RAW into something special, why dilute it by changing an hour here into something else or an hour there into something else? That small change could affect ratings in a negative way which would be the exact opposite of what they want to accomplish.
Plus from a business perspective, the "RAW" branding is much bigger then any sort of old wrestling nonsense you would try to attach to it.
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Post by CMPUNKISGOOD on May 4, 2014 7:55:25 GMT -5
1.) Get rid of Main Event and Superstars 2.) Bring back ECW(bring up guys from NXT, superstars who are not getting used, ECW guys, and make Regal the GM)
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Post by Next Man’s Yeeter on May 4, 2014 11:43:02 GMT -5
For WWE to do is change up the brand name a little. They purchased the rights to ECW, AWA, and I dont know how many other companys. And they bought out WCW. So I dont see why they dont run shows under those names? Because none of those brands have the recognition to run arenas profitably - that was why separate ECW shows stopped within a couple of months in 2006. AWA has been dead for decades, WCW has been dead for over a decade, ECW has been dead for four years and wasn't capable of running its own shows then. There would literally be zero benefit to running WWE shows under the name of lesser companies. Literally none whatsoever. It would confuse the marketplace for no reason, and at best, it would persuade less people to buy tickets because they'd think the John Cena vs Bray Wyatt match on an "AWA" branded show was going to be a fake. The closest they will ever get to this is NXT. Vince already tried to talk the TV partners into giving WCW its own show in 2001, and they didn't even want it then, coming out of wrestling's hottest period. In 2014, there's no chance and no benefit to slapping an old, lesser company's brand name on the first hour of Raw... And the TV stations would rightfully shoot the notion down even if Vince started suffering from dementia and suggested it. They did it for years with Raw and Smackdown. Eventually their creative, production and talent development departments weren't creating enough stars to headline the separate brands effectively, so it failed.
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