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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Sept 3, 2014 14:46:11 GMT -5
IDK, got any suggestions? Yeah, do nothing. And they also used it to justify their actions. You can use anything to justify your actions, doesn't mean it's to blame. If I were to do something bad and use Sesame Street as my justification, no one should be rushing to attack Big Bird. Umm... Last I checked Big Bird doesn't command his followers to behead infidels and non-believers. Are you really that clueless? Islam commands its followers to put anyone that does not convert to Islam to death.
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Sept 3, 2014 14:52:35 GMT -5
Let me put this into perspective of a lifelong resident of New York City. Islam did attack us on 9/11. The hijackers believed America is the number one enemy. They acquired visas to get into the US, learned how to fly commercial airliners, and had people financing their suicide mission. All of these Islamic extremists care about is killing Americans and achieve martyrdom. If these people bombed your town, you wouldn't like it. These extremists are giving Islam a bad reputation. The Middle East will never be at peace. Like the policies of past presidents, Obama is doing his best to protect us from future attacks. Remember one thing, I remember both attacks on the World Trade Center. Both attacks that were carried out by people who believe Islam is the superior religion. Islam did not attack us. People who have twisted the religion to suit their needs attacked us. You say they are giving Islam a bad reputation (which I agree with) so it was just some guys, not the religion, that attacked us. Have you ever read the Koran and actually looked into the religion itself? They didn't twist anything buddy, that's why they're considered fundamenalists, because they follow their "holy" book and it's commands to a T. You're defending something you clearly know nothing about.
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Post by ace on Sept 3, 2014 14:55:01 GMT -5
This is going to get bad, fast.
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Post by slappy on Sept 3, 2014 14:55:16 GMT -5
Yeah, do nothing. You can use anything to justify your actions, doesn't mean it's to blame. If I were to do something bad and use Sesame Street as my justification, no one should be rushing to attack Big Bird. Umm... Last I checked Big Bird doesn't command his followers to behead infidels and non-believers. Are you really that clueless? Islam commands its followers to put anyone that does not convert to Islam to death. Qur’an 6:151 says, “and do not kill a soul that God has made sacrosanct, save lawfully." 5:53 - “… whoso kills a soul, unless it be for murder or for wreaking corruption in the land, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind; and he who saves a life, it shall be as if he had given life to all mankind.” 2:256 - "There is no compulsion in religion. The right way has become distinct from error.” 5:69 - “Surely they that believe, and those of Jewry, and the Christians, and those Sabeaans, whoso believes in God and the Last Day, and works righteousness–their wage waits them with their Lord, and no fear shall be on them, neither shall they sorrow.” Abu Bakr al-Siddiq, the first Caliph, gave these instructions to his armies: “I instruct you in ten matters: Do not kill women, children, the old, or the infirm; do not cut down fruit-bearing trees; do not destroy any town..." So much for that Islam commands to kill thing. These people are going against their religion.
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Sept 3, 2014 15:01:48 GMT -5
Umm... Last I checked Big Bird doesn't command his followers to behead infidels and non-believers. Are you really that clueless? Islam commands its followers to put anyone that does not convert to Islam to death. Qur’an 6:151 says, “and do not kill a soul that God has made sacrosanct, save lawfully." 5:53 - “… whoso kills a soul, unless it be for murder or for wreaking corruption in the land, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind; and he who saves a life, it shall be as if he had given life to all mankind.” 2:256 - "There is no compulsion in religion. The right way has become distinct from error.” 5:69 - “Surely they that believe, and those of Jewry, and the Christians, and those Sabeaans, whoso believes in God and the Last Day, and works righteousness–their wage waits them with their Lord, and no fear shall be on them, neither shall they sorrow.” Abu Bakr al-Siddiq, the first Caliph, gave these instructions to his armies: “I instruct you in ten matters: Do not kill women, children, the old, or the infirm; do not cut down fruit-bearing trees; do not destroy any town..." So much for that Islam commands to kill thing.These people are going against their religion. Uhhh... No, just because you post a few select verses does not take away from the fact that the Koran does in fact command it's followers to kill non-believers.
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Post by slappy on Sept 3, 2014 15:03:30 GMT -5
Qur’an 6:151 says, “and do not kill a soul that God has made sacrosanct, save lawfully." 5:53 - “… whoso kills a soul, unless it be for murder or for wreaking corruption in the land, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind; and he who saves a life, it shall be as if he had given life to all mankind.” 2:256 - "There is no compulsion in religion. The right way has become distinct from error.” 5:69 - “Surely they that believe, and those of Jewry, and the Christians, and those Sabeaans, whoso believes in God and the Last Day, and works righteousness–their wage waits them with their Lord, and no fear shall be on them, neither shall they sorrow.” Abu Bakr al-Siddiq, the first Caliph, gave these instructions to his armies: “I instruct you in ten matters: Do not kill women, children, the old, or the infirm; do not cut down fruit-bearing trees; do not destroy any town..." So much for that Islam commands to kill thing.These people are going against their religion. Uhhh... No, just because you post a few select verses does not take away from the fact that the Koran does in fact command it's followers to kill non-believers. I'm actually just going to stop now before this gets locked and we get in trouble.
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Sept 3, 2014 15:12:08 GMT -5
This is why I don't believe any religion. I know a ton of people who are deeply religious and gosh, they love to cram down their faith to others. These Islamic Extremists want to cram their religion down to people who chose not to observe it. These people are bat**** crazy and live and die by the sword. Essentially, what's going on with ISIS is they hate America and those who are American sympathizers. I find it telling that America wanted to help Osama bin Laden during the war with the Soviet Union and Afghanistan. As for what's going on today, it is just going to get worse.
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Sept 3, 2014 15:20:25 GMT -5
Uhhh... No, just because you post a few select verses does not take away from the fact that the Koran does in fact command it's followers to kill non-believers. I'm actually just going to stop now before this gets locked and we get in trouble.Nah, you're not getting out of this one that easily. You need to look up these verses and get back to me and tell me I'm making this sh*t up. Ignore this and I'm just gonna assume you know your wrong but don't have the dignity to admit it. I don't care if I get in trouble, this needs to be said. You wanna know what I'm gonna do instead of sitting idly by? I'll start with ignorant pacifists such as yourself and show you that you are wrong when you claim Islam is a religion of peace. Quran 2:191-193, 3:56, 4:89, 5:33, 8:12, 8:15. Look em' up then try and tell me I'm making this up.
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Post by RybackV1 on Sept 3, 2014 15:29:16 GMT -5
Yeah, do nothing. You can use anything to justify your actions, doesn't mean it's to blame. If I were to do something bad and use Sesame Street as my justification, no one should be rushing to attack Big Bird. Umm... Last I checked Big Bird doesn't command his followers to behead infidels and non-believers. Are you really that clueless? Islam commands its followers to put anyone that does not convert to Islam to death. You must've missed that episode bro
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2014 15:31:39 GMT -5
I'm taking Criminal Justice and my teacher is a retired fedetal agent. Let's just say I've learned a lot.
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Sept 3, 2014 15:33:11 GMT -5
Umm... Last I checked Big Bird doesn't command his followers to behead infidels and non-believers. Are you really that clueless? Islam commands its followers to put anyone that does not convert to Islam to death. You must've missed that episode bro I'll see if I can find it on youtube, lol.
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Sept 3, 2014 15:55:35 GMT -5
They kill our innocent citizens time and time again, so what if we kill their "innocent" civilians. At least an attack from us would be justified. They attack for the sake of attacking and their bullcrap religion.
Who's side are you on slappy? Wouldn't you like to wake up in the morning and not fear what you may see on your television? These people are worthless scumbags and their "message" is spreading. I'm sick of waking up to find out another bomb went off, planes are missing, an innocent American was killed, or even the insane bullcrap that these people do to their own countries like creating "rivers of blood". How do you justify crap like that.
I'm sick of their "people" plain and simple. If I could care less about them I would. They're vile and disgusting excuses for humanity. There is no stopping this bullcrap. It's been going on for 25+ years and will continue to happen no matter how many times we take them out. They will just rebuild their armies and the continue their attacks. I'm sick of it.
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Post by Jacob on Sept 3, 2014 16:00:10 GMT -5
We spent the better part of 10 years at war in Afghanistan and Iraq and achieved very little.
I was against sending troops back out there until these homicidal, megalomaniac sons of bitches appeared. We must do something to help.
Personally I believe that IS are a bigger threat to our nations than Al Quaeda are.
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Post by RybackV1 on Sept 3, 2014 16:31:57 GMT -5
I'm taking Criminal Justice and my teacher is a retired fedetal agent. Let's just say I've learned a lot. Hahah yeh I thought I was learning a lot too. Biggest waste of time and effort of my life.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2014 16:32:10 GMT -5
Stop. This bullcrap about genocide is going to stop right now, I don't care about your beliefs. This has no part on this site, and expect the big friendly 'ole red bars to be sent out.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2014 16:44:50 GMT -5
I'm taking Criminal Justice and my teacher is a retired fedetal agent. Let's just say I've learned a lot. Hahah yeh I thought I was learning a lot too. Biggest waste of time and effort of my life. Eh, I like it. Dude seems to know his crap.
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Sept 3, 2014 19:19:56 GMT -5
Stop. This bullcrap about genocide is going to stop right now, I don't care about your beliefs. This has no part on this site, and expect the big friendly 'ole red bars to be sent out. I already have a red bar. As for the discussion, it has already gone downhill and would eventually sink.
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Post by Self-Savior on Sept 3, 2014 19:54:55 GMT -5
I'm usually not a fan of Sean Hannity & Fox News but...this Choudary guy is a real POS.
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Sept 3, 2014 20:13:43 GMT -5
Self-Savior, I shook my head. That Imam guy really is a POS.
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Post by Nivro™ on Sept 3, 2014 20:18:21 GMT -5
Stop. This bullcrap about genocide is going to stop right now, I don't care about your beliefs. This has no part on this site, and expect the big friendly 'ole red bars to be sent out. Was there a post deleted or have I missed something cause I dont see any posts that could even remotely warrant a warning bar under the WFigs TOS.
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