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Post by RybackV1 on Sept 14, 2014 1:27:58 GMT -5
These ISIL dudes are digging themselves in such a deep hole. Allied powers baby. Let's get these bastards
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Post by King Silva on Sept 14, 2014 5:53:04 GMT -5
It is horrible these sick s keep doing this to innocent people. There are special places in hell for these pricks.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2014 6:53:25 GMT -5
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Post by Cooperman on Sept 14, 2014 6:58:32 GMT -5
I honestly dont give a if one of them kills the other but a therorist organisation with a religion in its name is stupid as . What does religion have to do in all of this seriously?
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Post by slappy on Sept 14, 2014 14:24:34 GMT -5
Jesus Christ can something just be done already? Understandably, its not that easy but how can they just sit there as innocent people are being beheaded and taped for the world to see? I'm getting sick just thinking about it. How can those in the Middle East just sit there as innocent people are blown up by American drones? All sides are doing awful things and we all need to find a way to make all of the awfulness stop.
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Post by jayrod2009 on Sept 14, 2014 14:30:20 GMT -5
So we are going to Syria and breaking Africa's No-Boots-On-Ground treaty?
Australia is in, Europe is in, US is in... Why do I have sudden thoughts of a World War starting up?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2014 14:40:42 GMT -5
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Post by slappy on Sept 14, 2014 14:44:24 GMT -5
The Pope has already called all of this a piecemeal World War 3.
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Post by Nivro™ on Sept 14, 2014 16:40:02 GMT -5
Jesus Christ can something just be done already? Understandably, its not that easy but how can they just sit there as innocent people are being beheaded and taped for the world to see? I'm getting sick just thinking about it. How can those in the Middle East just sit there as innocent people are blown up by American drones? All sides are doing awful things and we all need to find a way to make all of the awfulness stop. Would it be better if all the Allieds pulled out of the Middle East let all the radicals take over and kill the innocent people and then we come in and flatten the place? That way the "innocent blood" wont be on our hands and we still get the same outcome. You cant use logic with people who dont think logically.
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Post by slappy on Sept 14, 2014 16:51:45 GMT -5
How can those in the Middle East just sit there as innocent people are blown up by American drones? All sides are doing awful things and we all need to find a way to make all of the awfulness stop. Would it be better if all the Allieds pulled out of the Middle East let all the radicals take over and kill the innocent people and then we come in and flatten the place? That way the "innocent blood" wont be on our hands and we still get the same outcome. You cant use logic with people who dont think logically. Are you saying it's better for us to kill everyone than for them to kill nearly everyone then we come in and finish them off? It doesn't have to be one or the other. Us pulling out can be the start of repairing the Middle East. Us being there just adds fuel to the fire. The more we kill, the angrier they get. Just like the more they kill (well, the more they kill Americans because if they kill each other we don't really have a problem with that), the angrier we get.
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Post by Nivro™ on Sept 14, 2014 17:09:01 GMT -5
Would it be better if all the Allieds pulled out of the Middle East let all the radicals take over and kill the innocent people and then we come in and flatten the place? That way the "innocent blood" wont be on our hands and we still get the same outcome. You cant use logic with people who dont think logically. Are you saying it's better for us to kill everyone than for them to kill nearly everyone then we come in and finish them off? It doesn't have to be one or the other. Us pulling out can be the start of repairing the Middle East. Us being there just adds fuel to the fire. The more we kill, the angrier they get. Just like the more they kill (well, the more they kill Americans because if they kill each other we don't really have a problem with that), the angrier we get. Thats what Im asking you. Do you seriously, in all honesty...not playing devils advocate think if the US/Western countries pulled out of the Middle East and said "there ya go, its all yours" that that place would be peaceful and without war?
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Post by jayrod2009 on Sept 14, 2014 17:15:24 GMT -5
Ok, so from that link, I get that Russia has made an alliance with China to take Ukraine? Does that bring Ukraine back to Russia or does Russia give it to China so China can build closer military stations to Eastern Europe? So while Us/Europe/Australlia are focused on ISIS China/Russia can swoop in from the Northeast. Man, The Middle East is looking to become a cluster .
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Post by slappy on Sept 14, 2014 17:16:29 GMT -5
Are you saying it's better for us to kill everyone than for them to kill nearly everyone then we come in and finish them off? It doesn't have to be one or the other. Us pulling out can be the start of repairing the Middle East. Us being there just adds fuel to the fire. The more we kill, the angrier they get. Just like the more they kill (well, the more they kill Americans because if they kill each other we don't really have a problem with that), the angrier we get. Thats what Im asking you. Do you seriously, in all honesty...not playing devils advocate think if the US/Western countries pulled out of the Middle East and said "there ya go, its all yours" that that place would be peaceful and without war? There are more factors than us just being there. However, us leaving would be a great first step. There is no one action that will suddenly cause peace and harmony. Just like there is no one thing that would make us be without war. We and our allies have done so much damage that it will take a long time to repair. Continuing to destroy them will not help them. Us continuing being there and killing people will only encourage more hatred and death. It's called blowback. But the thing with our war with ISIS is, are we really concerned that this group is killing people? Or is there something else we are after? Because there are other groups and countries killing people and we turn a blind eye to it.
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Post by jayrod2009 on Sept 14, 2014 17:24:48 GMT -5
Would it be better if all the Allieds pulled out of the Middle East let all the radicals take over and kill the innocent people and then we come in and flatten the place? That way the "innocent blood" wont be on our hands and we still get the same outcome. You cant use logic with people who dont think logically. Are you saying it's better for us to kill everyone than for them to kill nearly everyone then we come in and finish them off? It doesn't have to be one or the other. Us pulling out can be the start of repairing the Middle East. Us being there just adds fuel to the fire. The more we kill, the angrier they get. Just like the more they kill (well, the more they kill Americans because if they kill each other we don't really have a problem with that), the angrier we get. There is no repairing the Middle East. This is a war that's raged on before Christ. The Middle East had always, and will always be at war. Until there is know one there that isn't Muslim, they will rage war. As far as North American safety goes, I feel that putting a landing ban on any "Hot Spot" in the Middle East would be a start. Unless they are military, No American is allowed to land nor travel to The Middle East. Europe would need to follow suit, and now, Australia too. Now of course this would put ISIS on the move to find " hostages". Essentially leading them into uncharted territory for them. I feel guarding the boarders is a better start then sending X amount of boots into the red zone. Protect from the outside. Like herding cattle, yet them already being caged. We can work our way into the red zone from the safety zone. This strategy could provide us with less casualties and more advantage. Had it been my call, Troops would have never entered the Middle East now nor ever. That place had been a blood bath for thousands of years. No military, government, peace maker, etc will bring then peace.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2014 16:01:38 GMT -5
Hmmm.... (:33) Seem familiar?
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Post by k5 on Sept 18, 2014 17:54:27 GMT -5
Also to the people stating that we should just destroy and blow up the Middle East I think you fail to see what the fallout and aftermath would cause. For one we would need almost every country in the world to agree with America doing it. That includes China, Russia, UK, Australia and Canada. And we all know what a bunch of nice pricks Canada are, so good luck with that.Secondly, Hiroshima and Nagasaki happened around 70 years ago and those areas are still highly dangerous. Nuking them will cause more harm than good. The amount of nukes needed to wipe the Middle East off the planet would be an extremely high amount of radiation. The radiation would go into the atmosphere, with that amount of radiation in the atmosphere, probably every country would be affected by the fallout. For third world countries who have little to no treatment of radiation poisoning would be mean certain death and mutations. You guys need to think through your "solutions" a little more. i was about to make a post about finding means of peace in this, but then i read this and had to have a good chuckle. you know us too well...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 19:43:01 GMT -5
ISIS / ISIL is made up of militant groups like the Free Syrian Army who have been funded by the American government while they were flying Al-Qaeda flags in Syria and other countries. These videos are obviously fake. Everyone just buys into the war propaganda so easily. I, for one, will not fall for this and push for more bs war. I like how we can drone bomb all of these other countries that we aren't at war with like Somalia, but we get videos of ISIS in miles-long stretches of vehicles apparently heading to their targets to terrorize but we can't drone bomb the out of them? Give me a break.
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Sept 20, 2014 21:53:44 GMT -5
Why are they even fighting is this a religion thing or political? and why are we, as westerners, involved?
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Post by Self-Savior on Sept 22, 2014 11:32:51 GMT -5
Major Update added to the main page. Islamic State (IS) has called on all Muslims and supporters of IS to KILL ANY NON-BELIEVER/SUPPORTER in any way. I dunno about you guys but if I see a Muslim following me I'm gonna stab a bitch. ...Seriously?
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Post by ¡Twist Of Lime Green Jello! on Sept 22, 2014 11:57:56 GMT -5
Major Update added to the main page. Islamic State (IS) has called on all Muslims and supporters of IS to KILL ANY NON-BELIEVER/SUPPORTER in any way. I dunno about you guys but if I see a Muslim following me I'm gonna stab a bitch. Quick, join the military.
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