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Post by The Mask of Truth on Sept 30, 2014 2:41:10 GMT -5
I was spanked as a kid and I deserved it, I was SUCH a trouble maker. I was spanked as an adult, I wasn't a fan of it, but HE was Whoa, freaky stuff there dude....
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Post by heychickabumpbump on Sept 30, 2014 6:55:09 GMT -5
Milincoln, my experience has been pretty much the same as yours.
I was disciplined as a kid, I got spanked, the wooden spoon, the belt, and "kobasice" (sausages) which were getting spanked on the bag of your leg and having the marks from fingerprints that looked like sausages. The worst part was having to go upstairs and pick which belt or kitchen utensil I would be spanked with and give it to my parents, but I'm glad that I was disciplined.
My friends who were also spanked would joke around with me about the difference between how we turned out and people who weren't spanked turned out, one of my cousin's is about two weeks older than me and they weren't disciplined, apart from being yelled at, and they dropped out of school purely to stay home and play video games all day and they aren't doing anything with their life whatsoever, but everyone is different and there would also have been other factors that led to them doing this.
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Post by Prophet of Ash on Sept 30, 2014 7:05:22 GMT -5
used to spank my ex girlfriend when she misbehaved. she never did learn.
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Post by Valbroski on Sept 30, 2014 9:28:52 GMT -5
I was never spanked and turned out fine. Idk it seems dated now but as long as you're not giving your kid black eyes I don't think you're a horrible parent.
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Post by Supreme Cross on Sept 30, 2014 9:53:18 GMT -5
i think its ok for parents to spank children. it pisses me off that kids now a days don't get any discipline. that's why we have a lot of kids misbehaving and think they can do whatever they feel like. but its hard to spank children now. why? because the kids will say its *child abuse*. if they need a spanking, then they deserve it. back in the day when you misbehaved, you got hit with a paddle at school and then spanked when you got home. but they don't do that anymore cause its *abuse*. I think they need to bring the paddles back. I know there's going to be people that agree with me and probably a lot that disagree, but hey, we need more discipline.
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Post by Devilkiller on Sept 30, 2014 10:08:22 GMT -5
I have a little brother that I have to spank, but I mean, it's not like I'm swinging for the fences. It's a tap on the diaper to make the sound to scare him more than anything. That's what I do. Only other time I slap his hand is if he's doing something that's dangerous, I.e. Pouring salt out on his hands, climbing over tall furniture, etc.
I think it becomes abuse when a child, even if doing something wrong, you give them more spankings then you should have. Like, blinded by rage or whatever, and they just hit them 20-30 times for something that only deserves a few taps on the butt or whatever. But, that's just My opinion.
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Post by Halloween King on Sept 30, 2014 10:12:46 GMT -5
I was never spanked and turned out fine. Idk it seems dated now but as long as you're not giving your kid black eyes I don't think you're a horrible parent. Is it dated though? Watch most nature programs, you'll see lots of animals "sparring" or fighting as play. From what I've seen on those shows the play fighting both trains the animals in skills for survival and also establishes who the Alpha male is. So sometimes I think of spanking as a form of an animal instinct in which the stronger being is both trying to teach and show authority over the smaller and weaker being. I mean I could be wrong here but it makes some sense to me. I kind of see it as primal instinct. Something that comes natural to mankind, just like eating. Not one baby is born with the knowledge of food but they all know they need to eat. Or breathing, I just think it's things we as humans do just off of instinct.
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Post by Valbroski on Sept 30, 2014 10:29:08 GMT -5
I was never spanked and turned out fine. Idk it seems dated now but as long as you're not giving your kid black eyes I don't think you're a horrible parent. Is it dated though? Watch most nature programs, you'll see lots of animals "sparring" or fighting as play. From what I've seen on those shows the play fighting both trains the animals in skills for survival and also establishes who the Alpha male is. So sometimes I think of spanking as a form of an animal instinct in which the stronger being is both trying to teach and show authority over the smaller and weaker being. I mean I could be wrong here but it makes some sense to me. I kind of see it as primal instinct. Something that comes natural to mankind, just like eating. Not one baby is born with the knowledge of food but they all know they need to eat. Or breathing, I just think it's things we as humans do just off of instinct. I mean my opinion is from the perspective of somebody who doesn't have kids keep in mind, so take it for what it's worth, but yeah, idk. It's just when I think of spanking I think of my parents being young and having it done to them.
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Sept 30, 2014 10:32:31 GMT -5
I've always been against this "dont slap your kid" stuff, I mean yeah dont punch them in the nose, but a slipper to the ass or something would be fine. I was brought up that way, and also isolated (Which is something else people are brining up a lot, saying its not right) and I feel like I turned out ok, decent job which I'm actually progressing in, I never argue with people or fight. my only down side is being a stoner and smoker, but I fund my own habits and it doesn't leave me short when paying bills etc.
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Post by 0,Y on Sept 30, 2014 10:52:57 GMT -5
If you don't know how to raise your kids without having to use violence you shouldn't have ever become a parent in the first place.
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Post by figurecollector on Sept 30, 2014 11:51:25 GMT -5
Kids used to be subjected to paddling with wooden paddles in schools. I was taught that if I got into trouble at school, it would be worse when I got home. It made you think about what you were doing before acting up. I can say I went through school and did not have the paddle used on me. We had a hockey coach teaching in junior high and he used a sawed off hockey stick with holes drilled into it. He very seldom had to use it and when he did on someone, he did not have to again.
My parents used an almost non-flexible yard stick. It got your attention and kept you in line. None of the stuff about hating your parents or not respecting them applied as I understood the reasoning. After age 10 or so, it became grounding rather than whipping as it was more important to me to be able to go outside than anything else.
For my own kids, I believed in raising them the same way. If you tell a child to do or not do something more than to or three times the same hour, it is time to stop wasting your breath. After a few times, they learned to respond instead of ignoring us. Basically all I had to do from that point was stand up. They did not hate us or fear us and I believe that they respected us as well. I am sure that they would agree that this is the best method.
Too many times I see kids in stores and restaurants with their parents, running amok, doing things they should not be and the parents put out the "honey don't due that" card 5x in 15 minutes. It's time to get them to listen to you and know the behavior that is expected to them.
There are just some kids that any form of discipline does not work. One that was my son's age probably stayed after school for acting up probably daily. It has no effect on him nor did grounding or paddling. He was a trouble maker throughout school and I am not sure he ever did graduate. He is still getting into trouble, only this time it is with the law. I cannot imagine having a child like that.
Obviously, it does not work on all kids, but I think the vast majority would be better behaved if they were disciplined.
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Post by k5 on Sept 30, 2014 13:58:56 GMT -5
Milincoln, my experience has been pretty much the same as yours. I was disciplined as a kid, I got spanked, the wooden spoon, the belt, and "kobasice" (sausages) which were getting spanked on the bag of your leg and having the marks from fingerprints that looked like sausages. The worst part was having to go upstairs and pick which belt or kitchen utensil I would be spanked with and give it to my parents, but I'm glad that I was disciplined. My friends who were also spanked would joke around with me about the difference between how we turned out and people who weren't spanked turned out, one of my cousin's is about two weeks older than me and they weren't disciplined, apart from being yelled at, and they dropped out of school purely to stay home and play video games all day and they aren't doing anything with their life whatsoever, but everyone is different and there would also have been other factors that led to them doing this. that's straight up disturbing.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2014 14:02:03 GMT -5
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Post by Joey Cush on Sept 30, 2014 14:10:38 GMT -5
I guess Im crazy but my mother used to chase after me with a wooden spoon and when she caught me, damn I was in for a spanking or crack on the back. And all my mom needed to say was, "Dont make me tell your father" because I knew it would be much worse. Not that I was ever punched or kicked or brutally hurt, I learned a lesson. Like others said, it makes you think about the consequences before you even did something wrong.
Today? I'm told over and over on how respectful I am and great I was brought up. So my parents must have done something right.
So yes, I would absolutely discipline by children as fit.
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Post by T R W on Sept 30, 2014 14:21:10 GMT -5
People are just at a crossroads with this, and I think over time it's something that is being utilized less and less, which is probably a good thing.
I was spanked as a child at home, and in school. never to the point of bruising, bleeding, or major welts. I was spanked with a paddle, a switch, hand, belt, and probably a few other random objects. I never have, nor do I now consider any of it to have been abusive. It was rare, and only for major situations. Almost always over clothes.
To me, with a child, I wouldn't rule out spanking, but it would be a last resort for emergency situations, or severe situations. Not just because the kid is acting up. And it would always be over clothing, with a hand. I don't consider that abusive, though I am sure some would. You do it too often, and it loses effectiveness anyway. But what Adrian Peterson did was clearly abuse to me, and what many other people consider OK as well. Just because your parents and grandparents did something, doesn't mean it is the right thing to do now. My grandfather had to force blacks to ride in the back of the bus in Atlanta, or not let them on at all. Times have changed. People and society evolve. Most studies show that spanking does more harm than good. I'm inclined to believe they are correct.
Anyway, in short, I am ok with light spanking in extreme situations.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2014 14:39:22 GMT -5
I wasn't spanked, I was beaten. Badly.
With that being said, if I ever have kids, I promise myself to never, ever, lay a finger on them. No matter what.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2014 14:43:40 GMT -5
I was never really beaten or spanked by my parents. I went to Catholic school, they did enough of that there. I have my ex's 7 year old that I deal with. When she's bad I don't smack her. I just can't hit that pretty little girl. However, I tell her that I'm very disappointed in her. She cries a lot. She can't stand to let me down. But she's a real good kid and hardly ever gets in trouble. She is a smart ass, but she gets that from me, how can I get mad at that?!??!?!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2014 14:46:09 GMT -5
I wasn't spanked, I was beaten. Badly. With that being said, if I ever have kids, I promise myself to never, ever, lay a finger on them. No matter what. Not even if you're swatting a bee and they're allergic to bees? You'll just let it sting your child, letting your child die? That's ed up, man. You could've saved him. You practically killed him yourself. You're a murderer. How do you sleep at night, baby killer?
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Post by heychickabumpbump on Sept 30, 2014 20:39:36 GMT -5
Milincoln, my experience has been pretty much the same as yours. I was disciplined as a kid, I got spanked, the wooden spoon, the belt, and "kobasice" (sausages) which were getting spanked on the bag of your leg and having the marks from fingerprints that looked like sausages. The worst part was having to go upstairs and pick which belt or kitchen utensil I would be spanked with and give it to my parents, but I'm glad that I was disciplined. My friends who were also spanked would joke around with me about the difference between how we turned out and people who weren't spanked turned out, one of my cousin's is about two weeks older than me and they weren't disciplined, apart from being yelled at, and they dropped out of school purely to stay home and play video games all day and they aren't doing anything with their life whatsoever, but everyone is different and there would also have been other factors that led to them doing this. that's straight up disturbing. I don't think so, it gave me time to reflect back on what I did and my parents had it much worse than I did, especially considering that my father grew up in a small village that didn't get electricity until the 80s and his house was pretty much a pile of rocks. I don't consider what they did to be abuse because it was just them disciplining me, if they were to do this without reason or hurt me to the point where I couldn't walk, then I would consider it abuse, but it wasn't
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Post by Ryan81398 on Sept 30, 2014 21:01:10 GMT -5
I'm in high school, but I was spanked up until like 9 or 10. Generally, it was my mom doing it because if my dad ever did it, it was with a belt and I wasn't allowed pants on. Even at that, since I was generally good, it happened rarely. I don't consider that abuse. I consider that discipline when needed. If it causes anything beyond soreness, that should be considered something else instead of discipline.
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