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Post by Last Trent Barreta Fan on Oct 21, 2014 10:38:22 GMT -5
This is why I'm afraid to leave my house for a week in December, especially since we have little kids who stop over from time to time. (But it doesn't happen anymore since they moved to another state.) I have told my grandma about my junk figure box if kids come over and want to play with figures. Those are figures I'm going to sell eventually anyway and don't really care about. I don't have a lock on my door because I really don't have to worry about people stealing or anything but I have a rule all my uncles know about, where if they break a figure or diecast, they have to buy me a new one. So if I come home and my uncle says he dropped my E16 Kevin Nash and the arm is broken in package, guess what? He's paying the $100+ to get me a new MOC one. No excuses. And I will not wait until my birthday or Christmas. Don't touch it unless you can immediately afford to buy a new one if you break it. I look at it as "I don't go into your home, snoop in your rooms and play with everything I see without asking, so don't do that to me."
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Post by The Dark Passenger on Oct 21, 2014 11:01:19 GMT -5
Let casey Anthony guide you in the steps of child erasing! Hate kids!
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Post by theforce1727 on Oct 21, 2014 11:08:43 GMT -5
I think it's pretty crappy he didn't keep an eye on his son. That part is wrong. However, friendship is an important thing, and if you guys go that far back then maybe you can talk to him about how rare the figures were that his son happened to ruin. I would hope he would offer to help replace some, if not all, of them. That would be the true friend thing to do. Just be cool about it. And if not, skip the RKO part and just Tombstone Piledrive his ass onto the pile of ruined figure boxes.
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Post by mrbiggs on Oct 21, 2014 11:10:04 GMT -5
Some have said this is my fault, and I guess in a way it is, but what am I really supposed to do?
I have no need for a lock on my door as I have never had anything like this happen. They have come over before with no incident. My stepdaughters have never touched anything (especially now that they are older, but even when they were young, they knew not to touch without asking). I have my display much like others on here do, just sitting on shelves in my workroom, but should I have to put them in cases with locking doors because of lax parenting or what? Put everything on high shelves at least five feet high and leave all the others below that bare?
I just know that if I had ever gone anywhere with my girls and they had gone from room to room snooping and playing, I would have kept an eye on them and kept them in sight the whole time.
I'm pretty sure everyone here saying this is my fault would be singing a different tune if it had happened to them and their expensive collection had been compromised.
I guess I am just saying that my stepdaughters know better... they have been taught not to mess with things that aren't theirs, and I don't feel I should be held accountable for someone else's child. I was raised to know better than mess with other people's stuff without permission, my girls have been raised to know better... Some people just refuse to take the time to teach their children I suppose.
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Post by theforce1727 on Oct 21, 2014 11:12:26 GMT -5
It's definitely not your fault. Your buddy displayed bad parenting 101. Who lets their kid play unattended in the kitchen, or the bathroom, or their best friends work/collection/man cave room? He should offer to fully reimburse and if not then you see how important that friendship is. Not trying to be rude but it's screwed up on his part.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2014 11:17:22 GMT -5
I would make him pay for it honestly.
Could be because I've never had real friends.
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Post by mikey1974 on Oct 21, 2014 11:53:44 GMT -5
Some have said this is my fault, and I guess in a way it is, but what am I really supposed to do? I have no need for a lock on my door as I have never had anything like this happen. They have come over before with no incident. My stepdaughters have never touched anything (especially now that they are older, but even when they were young, they knew not to touch without asking). I have my display much like others on here do, just sitting on shelves in my workroom, but should I have to put them in cases with locking doors because of lax parenting or what? Put everything on high shelves at least five feet high and leave all the others below that bare? I just know that if I had ever gone anywhere with my girls and they had gone from room to room snooping and playing, I would have kept an eye on them and kept them in sight the whole time. I'm pretty sure everyone here saying this is my fault would be singing a different tune if it had happened to them and their expensive collection had been compromised. I guess I am just saying that my stepdaughters know better... they have been taught not to mess with things that aren't theirs, and I don't feel I should be held accountable for someone else's child. I was raised to know better than mess with other people's stuff without permission, my girls have been raised to know better... Some people just refuse to take the time to teach their children I suppose. agree,with everything you said. and, NO, you should NOT have to change anything for people coming over. it's your house,and you shouldn't have to childproof it for other people's kids. first time the kid disappeared,he should've made the kid stay within his sight,period. I hve taken my son to other people's houses before when he was younger,and he either had to stay with me,or stay within my sight. if he didn't,then he would have to sit next to me and stay there,whether he liked it or not. I certainly didn't expect anyone to change their household configuration or lock stuff away for us. I simply expected I would have to be a responsible parent and actually watch my child.
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Post by RybackV1 on Oct 21, 2014 11:59:44 GMT -5
I'm getting a kick out of this im sorry
On one hand I hear ya on parenting these days. So many people just seem to not even watch their kids while they go off and run around doing what they please. Screaming and carrying on while their parents zone out on their iPhone
But then again this isn't just any parent it's your long time friend. You've known him for long enough that you should be able to forgive him. Hopefully you didn't freak out on his kid enough to the point where he won't forgive you.
I can't really see where your coming from because I've always been a loose collector but honestly if it's that bad you can sell the ones he opnened loose, and easily buy replacement MOC ones with that money. And probably same with the Legends with bent cards. I see people pay same price loose and MOC on eBay all the time and if not it's usually a minor difference. Good luck either way. I personally would just start a new and open ALL my WWE figures and display them loose! Does that not sound like fun?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2014 12:07:18 GMT -5
I don't want to be "That Person" since this is a figure forum but dude, figures vs. friendship since 4th grade shouldn't even be a debate. Plastic is replaceable. Tully Blanchard plastic is not replaceable. Yeah, that's what I'm saying....You know how much it cost now for a blanchard vs when it first came out? I guarantee it's not the same amount. MUCH higher now. (just going off what I see online) That alone will run you at least 75...then consider any others. It can hurt your pocket. It's not the plastic figures, but the value in them...Either the value in the likeness (or lack their of, look at that new Ambrose, yuck) or the collection resale. I get it man. Yeah, I'd be angry too. I would have probably talked about it with the friend.
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Post by mikey1974 on Oct 21, 2014 12:38:31 GMT -5
the thing is,the friend didn't even make an offer to replace anything ruined. it was just like "Oh,my kid damaged your MOC- packaging? Wow,sorry bout that!...Well...we better get going!"
honestly,I would've been like," How much that stuff cost you? Get me a list of what he damaged and I'll see what I can do."
the guy didn't offer to even TRY and make it right.
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Post by ARUN on Oct 21, 2014 13:18:30 GMT -5
I have small kids at home. All of my figures are in a room locked in my basement. They know they are lot allowed in there without me. This is exactly why. Sorry to hear that man.
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Post by mrbiggs on Oct 21, 2014 13:23:32 GMT -5
Tully Blanchard plastic is not replaceable. Yeah, that's what I'm saying....You know how much it cost now for a blanchard vs when it first came out? I guarantee it's not the same amount. MUCH higher now. (just going off what I see online) That alone will run you at least 75...then consider any others. It can hurt your pocket. It's not the plastic figures, but the value in them...Either the value in the likeness (or lack their of, look at that new Ambrose, yuck) or the collection resale. I get it man. Yeah, I'd be angry too. I would have probably talked about it with the friend. I WISH that Tully had only cost $75! lol
I hate to admit it, but after a really bad trade experience on here didn't work out, I ended up buying the only carded Tully that had been on eBay in quite some time... for $185 shipped. I know, I know, let the ribbing begin, but I am a child of the 80s and HAD to have Tully, Arn and Ric! Heck,
The RSC Stone Cold set me back $75.
With just those two I am out over $250.
As far why I collect carded figures, since that seems to be a oibt of emphasis for some members... Much like GI Joes from the 80s, I love the artwork on the Legends figures, so that's one BIG thing with them. With others. I just like the clean look of figures and the design of the packages. Carded figures are easier to keep clean. I can move all of my carded figures, dust off the tops and then the shelf underneath and that's it. With loose figures you have to dust off the figures themselves, then worry about getting all of the dust from every crack and crevice, between every boot lace, every accessory, etc. I hate having loose figures picking up dust and such. If it's a figure I really like, and if I can afford it, I will buy two so I can have one loose and one carded, but with these $75 to $200 figures, I want them perfect!
On top of that, I have also been incredibly let down in the past opening figures. They look great in the package, but as soon as you open them you have to deal with wanky arms and legs, loose joints, you name it!
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Post by alquelude on Oct 21, 2014 13:27:07 GMT -5
Sell the open figures and ask him to pay the difference for u to order them moc again
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Post by mrbiggs on Oct 21, 2014 13:28:01 GMT -5
I have small kids at home. All of my figures are in a room locked in my basement. They know they are lot allowed in there without me. This is exactly why. Sorry to hear that man. I used to have all of my stuff in my basement at my old house as well. Comics, figures (I had a huge carded collection of vintage GI Joes), a bunch of my artwork... all my supplies, but a sewage pipe blew one night in January and completely ruined everything! I had to open all my Joes, and believe me, to a carded collector, loose figures are never the same. All that awesome 80s Joe art on those packages... ruined! That hurt way more than what happened last night, but at least that was covered by my insurance. This, because it was my buddy's kid that did it, to my knowledge so far, is not!
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Post by mrbiggs on Oct 21, 2014 13:33:10 GMT -5
Sell the open figures and ask him to pay the difference for u to order them moc again That's fine on some, but that carded Tully figure... I watched eBay for months and there were only (maybe) four that popped up carded in that time. One sold to another member here and one other that I had been bidding on was cancelled by the seller (I suppose he got an offer he just couldn't turn down and sold it before the auction ended). One other was listed as a BIN, but because the shifty trader on here said he was "looking for the figure" for weeks (even after he had received the figure I was trading for the Tully three days after we agreed on the trade), it sold because I was thinking I already had one coming. I got the fourth one.
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Post by knupmc on Oct 21, 2014 13:41:25 GMT -5
Wow what a tough situation. I feel horrible for you with that tully and stone cold; tully is definitely THE rarest Mattel fig, and stone cold Rsc moc goes for over $100. Unfortunately, there's not too much you can do. The cards are ruined an irreplaceable. Maybe get a lock on the door, or tell the dad he can't bring over his son anymore just because of what happened. If he's a true friend, he'll understand
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Post by Halloween King on Oct 21, 2014 13:58:01 GMT -5
Man... what a lousy night!
My best friend in the world, has been since around 4th grade, came over about 2 hours ago and brought his little boy with him (6 years old). We were sitting, talking, nothing out of the ordinary, when we notice we don't hear his son in the kitchen floor anymore.
He had been sitting there playing with some toys he brought, so I ask my friend where he is and he says, "He's fine... he's just playing. He won't get hurt or anything." So I get up to go look for him and find him in the bathroom playing with one of his Ninja Turtle figures on the sink.
Worried he might turn the hot water on or something and hurt himself, I grab him and bring him back into the living room.
This happens about three or four more times and his dad just refuses to keep an eye on his son.
Well, as I am getting up to go and him again, and here he comes running down the hallway holding some of my carded WWE figures (by the tops of the cards, bending the hell out of them). I freak out a little an run and grab them out of his hands. The cards are ruined!
Now, I understand that kids are kids and get into everything, but I had my workroom / collection room's door closed and everything. I don't have a lock on it because my stepdaughters (13 and 17) have no desire to go in there anyway.
Had these been regular figures, I might not have cared as I could replace them easily, but when I took stock of all of the figures that had either the cards ruined, or had been opened all the way... here's what I found
The figures with bent / creased up cards are as follows: Legends Series 1 Hawk Legends Series 1 Animal (Not too upset about those as I have doubles and was really planning on opening a set anyway) RSC Ric Flair and worst of all, the Tully Blanchard I had just won off of eBay late last week and had received just this past Saturday!
I also had some Star Wars figures Black figures that suffered the same fate including a Walgreens Prototype Boba Fett and one of my Speeder Bikes with Scout Trooper.
Figures ripped open all the way and had the figures removed and laying loose: Defining Moments Ultimate Warrior Road to Wrestlemania TRU Stone Cold Elite 29 Andre Elite 30 Animal
Star Wars Black Darth Vader as well.
I was, and still am, so pissed! My buddy acted like he was mad, but he just said, "What did you do buddy?" and, "I think we'd better go because I think you made him mad", talking about me.
Of course I'm mad!! I am more than mad!!! Some of these figures are extremely hard to find and expensive, that Tully alone is a killer!
I guess I am just wondering what you would do if something similar happened to your figures! I am just at a loss. He is my best friend afterall. He is also a collector... Granted he collects loose figures, but how would he feel if I let my dog chew up some of his stuff because I wasn't paying any attention and refused to keep track of him?!
I can barely see straight I am so mad. I love them both like family though.
I've been there. Really you should be mad at yourself. Anytime there is children involved you better believe those kids will be drawn to your toys. I have a small box I keep with toys just for company. Anything I have carded is either kept more than 4 feet off the ground or behind a locked door. The baby that opened your toys had an AWESOME time, you.... not so much. At the end of the day you have to remember that it's just toys. Do you really care more about plastic figures than you do about human beings?
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Post by Hound on Oct 21, 2014 14:01:01 GMT -5
RKO Outta Nowhere
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Post by fallbrawl on Oct 21, 2014 14:32:45 GMT -5
I would make him pay for the figures but then again i would also tell him not to bring his son over anymore if he can't watch him.
I had the same problem with my niece. I told my sister if she can't watch her kid then she needs to keep her out of my room. This was back in May and i have not talked to my sister since.
I know most people consider me a jerk but i don't really care.
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