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Post by PJ on Feb 10, 2015 11:22:29 GMT -5
It would be ideal to me to see Brock tap to the Yes Lock. How awesome would that be? I know lots want to see Bryan vs Brock with Bryan winning, but I am not one of them. Brock is one guy I don't want to see Bryan in a one on one program with. They had Brock end the streak, destroy Cena look like an unbeatable super beast for the year. Now if Bryan comes in and beats him cleanly after being out for almost a year how is Bryan ever an underdog again? He's not. And being the underdog is part of his appeal. I would rather Reigns vs Brock at mania in a war with Rollins coming in and picking the bones for the title after. Then if Brock resigns you have, Brock, Bryan, Orton and Reigns all as underdogs chasing the title from Rollins and the Authority throughout the year.
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Post by PWSPhil on Feb 10, 2015 11:43:00 GMT -5
This whole size debate is ridiculous! If size is what mattered than Big Show should have the same aura as Brock, an unbeatable beast. Giants & beast are built to be broken. UFC is where the real fights happen, don't watch WWE for realism. Daniel Bryan has everything but the size, & Lesnar has it all. Can Bryans heart of a Champion overcome the overwhelming destruction of Brock Lesnar? It's an easier story to tell than "Is Roman Reigns as beastly as Brock Lesnar?" Without the Bryan factor the build to Mania would put Roman in a very "Cena" situation where he overcomes the Authorities odds in an effort to put him on the same level as Brock. Romans injury hurt his character because that was the time for him to get some more big singles wins & most likely would have won for team Cena at Survivor Series. With Bryan factored in we get a more interesting story where Reigns can be tested against another former WWE champion, and providing the match is good Roman can show he's ready for the push. I'm personally hoping for the triple threat match so Reigns can get a main event & not have to carry the burden of a 1 on 1 main event, Bryan can get the belt back & we get to see Brock in the ring with 2 new opponents. After the Rumble triple threat this one could be another 5 star classic as the WM main should be.
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Feb 10, 2015 14:27:52 GMT -5
I don't want to see Bryan go over Lesnar, I'm OK with them having the match - it will be a lot better than the horror show that would be Lesnar/Reigns - but Bryan shouldn't win. Obviously this is going to be seen as sour grapes, but they didn't allow Punk to beat Lesnar, when he should've done, so why should Bryan get that privilege? Bryan's been given quite enough, IYAM. And before someone comes in with "Bryan should win because he's more over than Punk ever was"... well that's rubbish, 'cos he was just as over as Bryan was before he left.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2015 14:41:58 GMT -5
I don't want to see Bryan go over Lesnar, I'm OK with them having the match - it will be a lot better than the horror show that would be Lesnar/Reigns - but Bryan shouldn't win. Obviously this is going to be seen as sour grapes, but they didn't allow Punk to beat Lesnar, when he should've done, so why should Bryan get that privilege? Bryan's been given quite enough, IYAM. And before someone comes in with "Bryan should win because he's more over than Punk ever was"... well that's rubbish, 'cos he was just as over as Bryan was before he left. Because Bryan is the most over face in the company and Brock is leaving. Bryan will be around for a few years likely, and this would catapult him to bigger heights. And yeah, he's more over than Punk was. Not by a whole lot, but he is.
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Post by Miztery on Feb 10, 2015 15:45:33 GMT -5
Why oh why do people care about believability?
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Post by jakksking1 on Feb 10, 2015 16:10:46 GMT -5
Do you believe John Cena or Roman reigns vs Brock Lesnar is believable ? Lesnar would tear them both apart in minutes. They are big and muscular, that doesn't mean anything. He would destroy them. It's wretling, this isn't about believebility, it's about the most entertaining storyline and match, and DB vs Lesnar provides both
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Post by Tim of thee on Feb 10, 2015 16:55:37 GMT -5
How did Eddie win their match up at a lower level PPV though? What he means is, the David vs Goliath match is an attraction for casual fans. How Eddie won is irrelevant. The story would draw people into it. I think so. Character comes into play. Bryan isn't an opportunist like Eddie and lest we forget that Goldberg helped him win. Would people accept a similar scenario?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2015 17:11:24 GMT -5
What he means is, the David vs Goliath match is an attraction for casual fans. How Eddie won is irrelevant. The story would draw people into it. I think so. Character comes into play. Bryan isn't an opportunist like Eddie and lest we forget that Goldberg helped him win. Would people accept a similar scenario? It's irrelevant to the drawing power.
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Post by Lewscher on Feb 10, 2015 17:13:12 GMT -5
I think the d-bry fans are missing a point. . . Lesnar DESIMATED cena who is todays hogan! The way he brutalised 'super cena' aswell as defeating the streak with the 21-0 undertaker. There's no way! D-bry's ring skills can match brocks brutality. The wwe machine is now pushing reigns, why call it a 'superman punch' if they're not after him being the next beasty guy. Brocks a spectacle above others, always has been, agility and brtue strength. They're trying to build up reigns with this move and the d-bry obsession needs to go towards another goal for the guy AT THE MOMENT.
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Post by Lewscher on Feb 10, 2015 17:17:00 GMT -5
Why oh why do people care about believability? Personally speaking, because this aint no fairytail Disney mate. Its not raw ufc. Granted. But its scripted competitive wrestling, SOME believability has to be left in the product. . . Otherwise id be best off watching all stars gameplay :/
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2015 17:32:32 GMT -5
I think the d-bry fans are missing a point. . . Lesnar DESIMATED cena who is todays hogan! The way he brutalised 'super cena' aswell as defeating the streak with the 21-0 undertaker. There's no way! D-bry's ring skills can match brocks brutality. The wwe machine is now pushing reigns, why call it a 'superman punch' if they're not after him being the next beasty guy. Brocks a spectacle above others, always has been, agility and brtue strength. They're trying to build up reigns with this move and the d-bry obsession needs to go towards another goal for the guy AT THE MOMENT. Bryan also beat Cena clean. No, the "obsession" doesn't need to go anywhere.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2015 17:34:02 GMT -5
Why oh why do people care about believability? Personally speaking, because this aint no fairytail Disney mate. Its not raw ufc. Granted. But its scripted competitive wrestling, SOME believability has to be left in the product. . . Otherwise id be best off watching all stars gameplay :/ You have Bryan beat Big Show clean, boom. There's his credibility in beating a bigger guy. Mysterio made a career doing that. You can book anybody to be credible.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Feb 10, 2015 17:45:50 GMT -5
Really though, if you don't think he's over...who do you think is?
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Post by Hulk Who? on Feb 10, 2015 17:48:48 GMT -5
I think the d-bry fans are missing a point. . . Lesnar DESIMATED cena who is todays hogan! The way he brutalised 'super cena' aswell as defeating the streak with the 21-0 undertaker. There's no way! D-bry's ring skills can match brocks brutality. The wwe machine is now pushing reigns, why call it a 'superman punch' if they're not after him being the next beasty guy. Brocks a spectacle above others, always has been, agility and brtue strength. They're trying to build up reigns with this move and the d-bry obsession needs to go towards another goal for the guy AT THE MOMENT. Not like they invented that name, that's just what it's called, GSP made it pretty famous.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Feb 10, 2015 17:57:08 GMT -5
I think they should have some kind of screwy ending at Fastlane and just have the main event at Wrestlemania be a triple threat match. That way Roman Reigns doesn't win, but he also doesn't have to lose either.
Daniel Bryan beating Brock is more crazy that Roman Reigns beating him....but the underdog story is one that has been around and worked forever. He could hit Brock with like 5 of those running knees and finally take him down and pin him on the last one. That way the belt is off Brock, Roman didn't take the loss, and Roman gets more time to learn to wrestle and learn how to act.
Then you can either go with Bryan as Champ, or have Seth Rollins come out and immediately cash in...or do it the next night. There arr so many ways to do this without making anybody look bad.
But Roman Reigns in a one-on-one match beating a legit fighter like Brock clean is the WORST way they could possibly do it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2015 18:21:41 GMT -5
What he means is, the David vs Goliath match is an attraction for casual fans. How Eddie won is irrelevant. The story would draw people into it. I think so. Character comes into play. Bryan isn't an opportunist like Eddie and lest we forget that Goldberg helped him win. Would people accept a similar scenario? I never really seen it that way.....Goldberg levelled the playing field after Lesnar cheated IIRC.....but anyway I want this match badly. Lesnar goes down to the knee......
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2015 18:34:58 GMT -5
I have faith in the WWE and Bryan's ability to make me believe he can win.
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Post by Tim of thee on Feb 10, 2015 18:46:11 GMT -5
I think so. Character comes into play. Bryan isn't an opportunist like Eddie and lest we forget that Goldberg helped him win. Would people accept a similar scenario? It's irrelevant to the drawing power. That is true! I wasn't arguing that point. There's no denying the Bryan is so over it hurts.
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Post by Word™ on Feb 10, 2015 18:52:52 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar doesn't have the ability to carry someone like Reigns..
I honestly think the match could be a train wreck.
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Post by grandmasterPRA on Feb 10, 2015 18:58:48 GMT -5
Bringing logic into wrestling is a big mistake. The whole point of wrestling is to see the unbelievable. Is it believable that a guy the size of Shawn Michaels could beat the Undertaker? no but it was an amazing match. Reigns isn't good enough in the ring to put on a great match, and not enough mic skills to tell a good story
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