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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Feb 28, 2015 23:20:14 GMT -5
Senior CitiSting is another short-term band-aid on the company's diminished popularity. He's not someone who can join the main roster and sell tickets, so he's not a big signing. If this were 1995, it would be a different story. If Sting doesn't sell tickets... Who does? How much impact has the Rock had on WWE since WM 29? Have Hogan's periodic appearances in recent years bumped the ratings? Young, fresh talents on the main roster create new fans and make money. Grandpas are only there for the nostalgia pops. Those reactions aren't signs of long-term interest for the company. I haven't watched TNA in a few years, but Joe isn't so far past his prime (hopefully) that he can't have a shot at infusing the main event with new life.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 23:46:43 GMT -5
If Sting doesn't sell tickets... Who does? How much impact has the Rock had on WWE since WM 29? Have Hogan's periodic appearances in recent years bumped the ratings? Young, fresh talents on the main roster create new fans and make money. Grandpas are only there for the nostalgia pops. Those reactions aren't signs of long-term interest for the company. I haven't watched TNA in a few years, but Joe isn't so far past his prime (hopefully) that he can't have a shot at infusing the main event with new life. Sting sells tickets. So does Rock.
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Mar 1, 2015 0:08:18 GMT -5
How much impact has the Rock had on WWE since WM 29? Have Hogan's periodic appearances in recent years bumped the ratings? Young, fresh talents on the main roster create new fans and make money. Grandpas are only there for the nostalgia pops. Those reactions aren't signs of long-term interest for the company. I haven't watched TNA in a few years, but Joe isn't so far past his prime (hopefully) that he can't have a shot at infusing the main event with new life. Sting sells tickets. So does Rock. Sting did sell tickets, and so did Rock. They're the past, not the future.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 0:10:38 GMT -5
Sting sells tickets. So does Rock. Sting did sell tickets, and so did Rock. They're the past, not the future. Right, and they sell tickets in the present.
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Mar 1, 2015 0:17:15 GMT -5
Sting did sell tickets, and so did Rock. They're the past, not the future. Right, and they sell tickets in the present.Really? All of Rock's appearances since WM have been surprises. Sting won't be around long because his contemporaries are members of AARP. Main roster stars sell tickets. HOFers are window dressing.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 0:18:23 GMT -5
Right, and they sell tickets in the present.Really? All of Rock's appearances since WM have been surprises. Sting won't be around long because his contemporaries are members of AARP. Main roster stars sell tickets. HOFers are window dressing. Yawn. Rock has had one surprise appearance. The rest have been advertised. Try again.
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Mar 1, 2015 0:32:02 GMT -5
Really? All of Rock's appearances since WM have been surprises. Sting won't be around long because his contemporaries are members of AARP. Main roster stars sell tickets. HOFers are window dressing. Yawn. Rock has had one surprise appearance. The rest have been advertised. Try again. In 6 months when Rock hasn't wrestled a single match and Senior CitiSting is playing shuffleboard instead of appearing on RAW, come back and tell me they're more important than the main roster. Time marches on and a young man's business like pro wrestling isn't built on gray hair.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 0:32:47 GMT -5
Yawn. Rock has had one surprise appearance. The rest have been advertised. Try again. In 6 months when Rock hasn't wrestled a single match and Senior CitiSting is playing shuffleboard instead of appearing on RAW, come back and tell me they're more important than the main roster. Time marches on and a young man's business like pro wrestling isn't built on gray hair. Learn to read. Never did I say they were more important. I said they sold tickets. There's a HUGE difference there.
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Mar 1, 2015 0:46:42 GMT -5
In 6 months when Rock hasn't wrestled a single match and Senior CitiSting is playing shuffleboard instead of appearing on RAW, come back and tell me they're more important than the main roster. Time marches on and a young man's business like pro wrestling isn't built on gray hair. Learn to read. Never did I say they were more important. I said they sold tickets. There's a HUGE difference there. You said Sting was the biggest signing in years. In doing so, you inferred that a retirement-aged part-timer, who is likely to wrestle only 1-2 times and never actually headline a card, is more important than current main eventers. Getting some brief nostalgia interest isn't the same as putting butts in seats week after week, month after month, year after year. A big signing is someone who can generate interest for years to come. That's who really sells tickets for WWE. Every talent has a shelf life, and Sting's expired 12-15 years ago.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 0:53:01 GMT -5
Learn to read. Never did I say they were more important. I said they sold tickets. There's a HUGE difference there. You said Sting was the biggest signing in years. In doing so, you inferred that a retirement-aged part-timer, who is likely to wrestle only 1-2 times and never actually headline a card, is more important than current main eventers. Getting some brief nostalgia interest isn't the same as putting butts in seats week after week, month after month, year after year. A big signing is someone who can generate interest for years to come. That's who really sells tickets for WWE. Every talent has a shelf life, and Sting's expired 12-15 years ago. Sigh. No, that's not what I said. I said it was their biggest signing in years, which is true, because short term he will bring in more money than most of the main roster (not named John Cena or Daniel Bryan) will through ticket sales. As time goes on, and Reigns/Rollins/Ambrose for example come into their own, that will change. For now, Sting is their biggest signing in years. It's not implying he's more important than the main roster at all, it's implying he's THE BIGGEST SIGNING THEY'VE HAD IN THE PAST FEW YEARS. Reading is difficult, but you can do it.
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Mar 1, 2015 1:06:48 GMT -5
You said Sting was the biggest signing in years. In doing so, you inferred that a retirement-aged part-timer, who is likely to wrestle only 1-2 times and never actually headline a card, is more important than current main eventers. Getting some brief nostalgia interest isn't the same as putting butts in seats week after week, month after month, year after year. A big signing is someone who can generate interest for years to come. That's who really sells tickets for WWE. Every talent has a shelf life, and Sting's expired 12-15 years ago. Sigh. No, that's not what I said. I said it was their biggest signing in years, which is true, because short term he will bring in more money than most of the main roster (not named John Cena or Daniel Bryan) will through ticket sales. As time goes on, and Reigns/Rollins/Ambrose for example come into their own, that will change. For now, Sting is their biggest signing in years. It's not implying he's more important than the main roster at all, it's implying he's THE BIGGEST SIGNING THEY'VE HAD IN THE PAST FEW YEARS. Reading is difficult, but you can do it. BIG- ADJECTIVE of considerable importance or seriousness: synonyms: important · significant · major · momentous · weighty linkNone of those synonyms gel with a performer of advanced age and, by extension, limited abilities to engage in his craft. By definition, he wasn't a big signing. Joe might be an actual big signing, *if* the rumors are true and *if* he can still perform the way he did in the mid-to-late 2000s.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 1:07:33 GMT -5
Sigh. No, that's not what I said. I said it was their biggest signing in years, which is true, because short term he will bring in more money than most of the main roster (not named John Cena or Daniel Bryan) will through ticket sales. As time goes on, and Reigns/Rollins/Ambrose for example come into their own, that will change. For now, Sting is their biggest signing in years. It's not implying he's more important than the main roster at all, it's implying he's THE BIGGEST SIGNING THEY'VE HAD IN THE PAST FEW YEARS. Reading is difficult, but you can do it. BIG- ADJECTIVE of considerable importance or seriousness: synonyms: important · significant · major · momentous · weighty linkNone of those synonyms gel with a performer of advanced age and, by extension, limited abilities to engage in his craft. By definition, he wasn't a big signing. Joe might be an actually big signing, *if* the rumors are true and *if* he can still perform the way he did in the mid-to-late 2000s. You don't get it. That's fine.
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Mar 1, 2015 1:18:35 GMT -5
BIG- ADJECTIVE of considerable importance or seriousness: synonyms: important · significant · major · momentous · weighty linkNone of those synonyms gel with a performer of advanced age and, by extension, limited abilities to engage in his craft. By definition, he wasn't a big signing. Joe might be an actually big signing, *if* the rumors are true and *if* he can still perform the way he did in the mid-to-late 2000s. You don't get it. That's fine. It's WWE who doesn't "get" it, because they have been feeding us cards stuffed with broken down old guys for years. Hopefully, 2015 will be different, but I'm not holding my breath. In the meantime, I'm glad Sting's fans will be enjoying WrestleMania:
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 1:23:32 GMT -5
You don't get it. That's fine. It's WWE who doesn't "get" it, because they have been feeding us cards stuffed with broken down old guys for years. Hopefully, 2015 will be different, but I'm not holding my breath. In the meantime, I'm glad Sting's fans will be enjoying WrestleMania: Reigns and Lesnar are definitely broken down. So are Wyatt/Ambrose/Bryan/Barrett etc. Definitely broken down. Good for you, you're a pessimist.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 6:13:17 GMT -5
If Sting doesn't sell tickets... Who does? How much impact has the Rock had on WWE since WM 29? Have Hogan's periodic appearances in recent years bumped the ratings? Young, fresh talents on the main roster create new fans and make money. Grandpas are only there for the nostalgia pops. Those reactions aren't signs of long-term interest for the company. I haven't watched TNA in a few years, but Joe isn't so far past his prime (hopefully) that he can't have a shot at infusing the main event with new life. The Rock contributed to a huge buyrate increase. Cena vs. Rock at WM28 is the highest grossing wrestling PPV of all time. You cannot expect The Rock to increase the buyrates when he's not even there.
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Post by Dan on Mar 1, 2015 8:26:02 GMT -5
I love that the WWE are finally growing on the idea of getting big name Indy Guys involved properly. However, I hope he'll be on the Main Roster, and it isn't just a ploy to gain more attention on NXT. I have this feeling that Triple H wants to build NXT as an entire Company to blow away the rest of the other Companies, rather than acting as a source purely to elevate and train guys for the Main Roster, and therefore the Balor's, Zayn's, Samoa Joe's etc will just stay on NXT for good.
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Mar 1, 2015 23:12:54 GMT -5
How much impact has the Rock had on WWE since WM 29? Have Hogan's periodic appearances in recent years bumped the ratings? Young, fresh talents on the main roster create new fans and make money. Grandpas are only there for the nostalgia pops. Those reactions aren't signs of long-term interest for the company. I haven't watched TNA in a few years, but Joe isn't so far past his prime (hopefully) that he can't have a shot at infusing the main event with new life. The Rock contributed to a huge buyrate increase. Cena vs. Rock at WM28 is the highest grossing wrestling PPV of all time. You cannot expect The Rock to increase the buyrates when he's not even there. That was my exact point. Also, the ROH crowd was pretty stoked for Joe tonight. If he can rekindle some of the magic he had a few years back, WWE could be on to something big.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 23:34:49 GMT -5
The Rock contributed to a huge buyrate increase. Cena vs. Rock at WM28 is the highest grossing wrestling PPV of all time. You cannot expect The Rock to increase the buyrates when he's not even there. That was my exact point. Also, the ROH crowd was pretty stoked for Joe tonight. If he can rekindle some of the magic he had a few years back, WWE could be on to something big. Lol. You can't judge how over somebody will be in WWE by watching them in ROH.
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Post by Squared² on Mar 1, 2015 23:42:16 GMT -5
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Mar 2, 2015 0:20:19 GMT -5
That was my exact point. Also, the ROH crowd was pretty stoked for Joe tonight. If he can rekindle some of the magic he had a few years back, WWE could be on to something big. Lol. You can't judge how over somebody will be in WWE by watching them in ROH. Punk and Bryan certainly brought their ROH support with them. WWE is desperately in need of star power these days, so what's the harm in wishing for Joe to work out?
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