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Post by MattelsRule on Mar 3, 2015 11:51:14 GMT -5
I just wanted to touch on this situation because it seems like people are divided into two camps.
The first camp thinking the IC Title is beneath Bryan and he should be in the main event
The second camp thinking "wow this is cool - Bryan will make the match more relevant and get to do some cool ass crap in a multi man ladder match".
While I see both sides, here's my issue with Bryan in the match. Its not so much about Bryan not being in the main event that bothers me. Its the simple fact that the WWE could not give Bryan a solid singles feud leading into the biggest show of the year. And while Sheamus v Bryan might NOT be off the table completely and while people did not want to see that match once again at Mania, there could be a lot of good story behind a one on one match that I could buy into and get behind. But as the days go by, it feels more and more likely they are throwing Bryan in this ridiculous IC title situation.
If he's in the ladder match, FINE. I think it will be fun and he will help make that match even greater than it could be - and hell, it could be one of the most memorable matches at a Mania in a long time... but it just feels very very very very forced and thrown together... and I do think its beneath him after all he has done to be in this midcard mayhem.
Again, nothing is official and this all could be a swerve for a returning Sheamus to brogue kick him out of the match and into a singles feud... but with 3 weeks until Mania, not only should Bryan's match be set but a proper build/feud should be happening weekly to get people invested. It's so silly that of all that has been signed and that is being worked on for Mania, that a small percentage of these feuds can even be furthered as these part timer headliners arent even gonna appear on Raw!!! No Lesnar, no Taker, no Sting - thats three matches that have to be built on by the 3 people who show up weekly alone or their advocates..
I just feel like its pretty sad how we cant get a proper build for a singles match on this card. Even the Rollins/Orton storyline seems like its dragging a bit this close to Mania. I just dont understand how you get Bryan back from injury and he's still the hottest act on the weekly programming - and he's not even booked yet. It all comes down to arrogance by Vince McMahon - just thinkng the name Wrestlemania alone will sell everyone and everything... and its been my biggest concern about WWE for a while.
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Post by McBlake on Mar 3, 2015 11:56:49 GMT -5
He lost the number one contenders match. The next step down SHOULD be the Intercontinental champion. I'm glad they're at least trying to add legitimacy to both the mid card titles. I like what they're doing with the us title but I think they're going the wrong way about it here.
Saying that, I am glad Bryan is being used to help push the credibility of the International champuonship as opposed to being put in a throwaway singles match. It was too late to really put him in a meaningful feud.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 11:58:14 GMT -5
Plus if he's in the ladder match, he'll have to win or the event will most likely get shat on lol and poor Barrett will have a mediocre reign.
I do want him in the ladder much but he does deserve better, as does Ambrose, and as does Barrett.
But Bryan was beating Triple H in one match and Orton and Batista in another all in one night last year on the biggest event and now he's gonna be midcard in an ic title match that he'll probably lose.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Mar 3, 2015 12:03:56 GMT -5
His injury kept him out until they already had plans for everyone else. He did start to say which match he wants on Smackdown, right? So I wonder if, in character, he's going to try to finally have his WrestleMania match with Sheamus. But if they are going with that, I don't get why they haven't built it already, unless Sheamus isn't cleared and this IC stuff is just giving DB something to do for a week until Sheamus comes back.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 12:09:41 GMT -5
I love that the Intercontinental Title, right now, is actually sought after by 5 or 6 guys at once. That's mind-blowing stuff in WWE today.
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Post by kazoosandstreamers on Mar 3, 2015 12:15:18 GMT -5
As much as I like Ambrose and Barrett and such, I think it would be cooler to see a one on one IC ladder match with Bryan and Ziggler.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Mar 3, 2015 12:17:53 GMT -5
My only gripe with his situation is Ambrose likely won't get his first non-Shield PPV win yet. I'm all for the post-'Mania Bryan/Ziggler feud.
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Post by MattelsRule on Mar 3, 2015 12:19:22 GMT -5
Bryan vs Ziggler in a ladder match for IC belt would have been amazing and legitimized the title far better than a match that features Luke Harper and R Truth.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 12:20:58 GMT -5
Bryan should've won the Royal Rumble and be main eventing Wrestlemania.
Anything less than that is stupid.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 12:22:30 GMT -5
I would much rather an Ambrose/Bryan feud into Summerslam. I have a feeling if Ambrose doesn't win at Mania, he won't get a PPV win till MiTB, which I think they'll acknowledge his losing streak going into it.
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Post by jakksking1 on Mar 3, 2015 12:26:06 GMT -5
I am of the opinion that main eventers going after the title doesn't elevate the belt. The belt is elevated by midcarders defending the belt and using it as a stepping stone to the championship. The fact that Daniel Bryan is going from fighting HHH and being in the main event of Wrestlemania to being in a match featuring R Truth is embarrassing and does nothing to elevate the belt or further any feuds.
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Post by McBlake on Mar 3, 2015 12:27:14 GMT -5
As much as I like Ambrose and Barrett and such, I think it would be cooler to see a one on one IC ladder match with Bryan and Ziggler. Bryan vs Ziggler ladder match: for a future title shot. Face vs. Face. Meanwhile intensifying the Barrett/Ambrose feud. They were heading there with the whole "you don't deserve a shot" angle. They could easily have made that a good storyline instead of this cheesey, cartoony stealing the belt crap. Have them go one on one in a street fight. That's how I'd have done it, then put the likes of Truth and Harper in the battle royal so it's not a COMPLETE jobber fest. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 12:34:16 GMT -5
IC title doesn't mean jack anyway when the champion is getting pinned every week.
Now, if they had a seemingly unstoppable champion or one who had been "on a roll" then this match would be pretty cool because the odds would be so stacked against the champion.
However, the current champion has lost to Sin Cara recently so...
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Post by kazoosandstreamers on Mar 3, 2015 12:35:17 GMT -5
As much as I like Ambrose and Barrett and such, I think it would be cooler to see a one on one IC ladder match with Bryan and Ziggler. Bryan vs Ziggler ladder match: for a future title shot. Face vs. Face. Meanwhile intensifying the Barrett/Ambrose feud. They were heading there with the whole "you don't deserve a shot" angle. They could easily have made that a good storyline instead of this cheesey, cartoony stealing the belt crap. Have them go one on one in a street fight. That's how I'd have done it, then put the likes of Truth and Harper in the battle royal so it's not a COMPLETE jobber fest. Solid. Ambrose and Barrett work well together. They could have easily carried this program alone. Plus, since Bryan sadly isn't going to be facing Lesnar,than a match with Ziggler would be the best option it seems. I just don't get why we need a battle royal and a mixed ladder match on the same Mania card. craps gonna get messy. Meh, best for business, whatever. |
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Post by bigshab421 on Mar 3, 2015 12:35:45 GMT -5
I do not have a problem with DB being in the match, unless he doesn't win the title. To have him in this match and lose to someone beneath him (i.e. Ambrose, Truth, BNB) would be completely stupid.
He should win the IC and face Ziggler for a series of matches ultimately leading to Ziggler finally winning. Ambrose could then win the MITB contract and be elevated.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 12:40:02 GMT -5
I don't understand the appeal in this Bryan vs Sheamus match I don't wanna see that and rather have in the ladder match with the like of dean,ziggler,Bad News Barrett,luke harper and I guess R-Truth who I don't understand why he is even apart of this I rather see ryback or the miz in that spot his ass should be in that battle royal but its whatever he ain't gonna win anyways.
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Mar 3, 2015 12:43:33 GMT -5
This is starting to feel alot like Piper getting the IC title because the world title plans fell through.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 12:46:33 GMT -5
I also don't understand this thirst WWE and others have for Daniel Bryan vs. Sheamus.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 12:49:08 GMT -5
He lost the number one contenders match. The next step down SHOULD be the Intercontinental champion. I'm glad they're at least trying to add legitimacy to both the mid card titles. I like what they're doing with the us title but I think they're going the wrong way about it here. Saying that, I am glad Bryan is being used to help push the credibility of the International champuonship as opposed to being put in a throwaway singles match. It was too late to really put him in a meaningful feud. I am inclined to agree. Especially if this does indeed yield long term dividends for the IC strap. I think they have mishandled Bryan terribly.....BUT this to me is better than nothing. |
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Post by marino13 on Mar 3, 2015 12:49:26 GMT -5
His injury kept him out until they already had plans for everyone else. I think that plays a huge part of it. |
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