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Post by JCF on May 7, 2015 0:08:59 GMT -5
I was working in a job where I was making crappy money. Not necessarily crappy money, but these checks wouldn't cut it for the rest of my life. I was still able to be comfortable, enjoy myself and pay my bills. The shifts sucked. I worked weekends. But I did what I had to do.
A lady came in one day... she's been a familiar face at this store for a while. Always sharp dressed, friendly and polite. She asks me if I'd have any interest in working for a corporate company. I say... um... what? Is this woman really offering ME a shot in the real world? She gave me her number. I called her. We eventually met at her office. She offered me double the money I was making. Weekends off. Benefits. It was a no brainer. I said yes and took it. Wrapped up and finished out my old job's week and left on my own terms. They weren't happy I left. Keep in mind, I'm taking a gamble. Leaving a steady and secure job to take a shot in the real world and make more money.
I start this new job. It goes well. Friendly people. Nice boss. I learn all the product they sell and how stuff works. It was a sales position and we sold wholesale to people who'd call us. Simple enough. It was a new world for me. Naturally it would take time to adjust. I was promised 3 months of training... even 6 if I needed it. Awesome. One issue. I was told to refrain from making any sales and to let the other guys do it. Ok then..
I was there 12 days. Caught on to the system, got comfortable on the phones. I was told not to go as far as making sales so I was doing basics. One issue... I was being trained by someone who was there 2 weeks. How can a new guy teach another new guy? Whatever. I studied a lot. Read notes. Product books. I had 3 months to learn as promised. The progress I made was getting there...
Tuesday afternoon. Boss walks in and slams the door. No hello, no good morning. A cold hard slam of the door. Around 11 am I get an email from her. Walk into her office. With sunglasses on and her head down... I hear the words "I'm letting you go, please clean out your desk and leave... you're not cut out for this".
Really? You promise me training, don't even train me.... I start the job with no background in sales or the product we sell. You tell me to not work on sales, but fire me after 12 days and say I'm not a fit. How do you determine that? I feel horrible.
Was I cheated? Should I take action? Sorry for a long read... but yea. I'm unemployed now thanks to this woman.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on May 7, 2015 0:36:42 GMT -5
Definitely got screwed, hard, and up the @$$. I don't know what state you live in, but if its an at will state either you or the employer can terminate employment at any time. Wrongful termination is incredibly difficult to prove unless there was some sort of flagrant discrimination. If you were to go as far as to sue your former employer it could be found out during discovery of a new job, and might scare the new job off. Sadly the best thing you can do is let it go.
Or you could go in and Benoit everyone.
(don't do that, this isn't worth killing yourself over)
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Post by Valbroski on May 7, 2015 1:27:45 GMT -5
That's ing awful man. The fact that situations like this can happen in real life is absolutely appalling. I don't know how the people that do this kind of thing live with themselves. I currently work in retail making decent money with steady full time hours but not enough to fully financially support myself and I have no benefits. I constantly am applying to entry level jobs ranging from customer support, sales, data entry. Whatever field I can get into that doesn't require a degree, I've applied to it. What happened to you is my biggest fear, leaving a steady job and taking a chance on something that could end up screwing you over. I've been rejected by a lot of jobs but the ones that do usually contact me back tend to be shady. They make a lot of promises that seem too good to be true so I always go with my gut and avoid them, unless of course it's a well established company. But yeah, I'm sorry this happened to you man. I wish you the best in your situation because that's terrible. Maybe you can get your old job back if you explain your situation to your former boss? They probably haven't found a replacement for your position yet anyway. For future reference though I'd recommend www.glassdoor.com when job hunting. It's a great site that lets you search up all sorts of information about different companies like reviews from current and former employees, interview processes and what the average salary is for different positions. The site is free to sign up for but the only catch is to access all its features you have to submit your own review about a company. Doesn't have to be anything crazy though and it's definitely worth it. Also if you're just looking for a higher paying job than what you do now that's easy to get into and you don't mind doing sales I'd probably reccomend becoming an insurance agent. The base salary for most companies starts low with no prior experience but they do pay for you to get your license and there is a lot of room for growth.
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Post by The Mask of Truth on May 7, 2015 1:51:02 GMT -5
Damn bro are you seriously that gullible? Sounds like your previous employer set you up and now you might not qualify for unemployment.
Also never believe in those silly pyramid schemes, it's a waste of time and money.
And remember: if something sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2015 9:42:50 GMT -5
What the actual F**K?! The whole situation sounds a bit suspicious to me, I'd take action if I was able to.
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Post by Tim of thee on May 7, 2015 12:55:16 GMT -5
A lot of jobs are sink or swim even if they don't train you. You will always be the first scapegoat if you work for someone else. That's just the cold reality of the corporate world unfortunately.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2015 13:20:49 GMT -5
Don't waste your time "taking action".
Instead, learn the lesson life has taught you and find a new, better job.
Anytime something sounds too good to be true; it is.
Don't burn your bridges in case you need to cross back over.
Also, don't worry about what happened. You're probably young, and you have your whole life in front of you. You're going to be fine, plus you've already got this life lesson under your belt.
There's a new, better job waiting for you just around the corner.
All you have to do is BOLIEVE!!!
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Post by theMOESIAH on May 7, 2015 13:30:08 GMT -5
Don't even bother taking any kind of action. IF you live in a wrongful termination state -- add that is a very big if -- it will be very difficult proving your case. You'll have to print that they fired you without cause while battling their high priced attorney. Or even worse, a team of high priced attorneys. Best case scenario you'll have wasted a lot of time and money to accomplish very little. It sucks but that's the system we've got. Damn bro are you seriously that gullible? Sounds like your previous employer set you up and now you might not qualify for unemployment. ...What? What's up with the conspiracy theories around here lately?
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2015 15:46:25 GMT -5
That seems like a very suspicious situation and a suspicious company.
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Post by JC Motors on May 7, 2015 16:46:08 GMT -5
You should take legal action
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Post by Kyle on May 7, 2015 16:59:52 GMT -5
I almost got sucked in to a similar situation. A quick Google search of the company and about 10 minutes reading about it's history and legal issues was more than enough for me to say nah. Consider it a lesson learned. Chances are worth taking when you work a job that you either hate or has nothing to offer.
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Post by King Silva on May 7, 2015 21:01:35 GMT -5
That really sucks.
Like others stated it seems you can't really do much but learn from this.
I hope you can get a new job that treats you better.
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Post by Halloween King on May 7, 2015 21:09:38 GMT -5
Damn bro are you seriously that gullible? Sounds like your previous employer set you up and now you might not qualify for unemployment. Also never believe in those silly pyramid schemes, it's a waste of time and money. And remember: if something sounds too good to be true, it probably is. I would think that he does qualify for unemployment. See he quit one job to work at another. And then the new job fired him. As far as I know you only are disqualified for unemployment benefits if you quit, abandoning your job, or are directly responsible for your being fired I.E. Stealing, insubordination, attendance issues, and so on. If they just fired you for no clear reason, which was not your fault, then you can apply for unemployment benefits. Im sure either one of your two past employers will contest your getting unemployment but unless you're not sharing important details, you should get unemployment. I've had similar experiences in the past.
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Post by The Mask of Truth on May 7, 2015 21:15:10 GMT -5
Don't even bother taking any kind of action. IF you live in a wrongful termination state -- add that is a very big if -- it will be very difficult proving your case. You'll have to print that they fired you without cause while battling their high priced attorney. Or even worse, a team of high priced attorneys. Best case scenario you'll have wasted a lot of time and money to accomplish very little. It sucks but that's the system we've got. Damn bro are you seriously that gullible? Sounds like your previous employer set you up and now you might not qualify for unemployment. ...What? What's up with the conspiracy theories around here lately? I might've exaggerated some but the fact he quit might disqualify him from receiving unemployment benefits. It depends too because every state is different.
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Post by theMOESIAH on May 7, 2015 21:17:35 GMT -5
Don't even bother taking any kind of action. IF you live in a wrongful termination state -- add that is a very big if -- it will be very difficult proving your case. You'll have to print that they fired you without cause while battling their high priced attorney. Or even worse, a team of high priced attorneys. Best case scenario you'll have wasted a lot of time and money to accomplish very little. It sucks but that's the system we've got. ...What? What's up with the conspiracy theories around here lately? I might've exaggerated some but the fact he quit might disqualify him from receiving unemployment benefits. It depends too because every state is different. I don't know for sure but I really doubt there are any states that allow someone to collect unemployment when they quit a job. That would go south real fast.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2015 21:49:17 GMT -5
Something similar happened to a co-worker of mine. They told him they'd train him to use a forklift for like and they gave him instructions one time only. His pay was also late. He quit and came back after that.
Sorry to hear it, man. I don't think there's much you can do.
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on May 7, 2015 22:35:28 GMT -5
I know in my works you get a 3 month probation period where they can get rid of you for little or no reason, not sure if that's the same there.
I would have questioned it though, just asked why i was being left without a job for no apparent reason..
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on May 9, 2015 15:43:32 GMT -5
I almost got sucked in to a similar situation. A quick Google search of the company and about 10 minutes reading about it's history and legal issues was more than enough for me to say nah. Consider it a lesson learned. Chances are worth taking when you work a job that you either hate or has nothing to offer. After reading the original post, you took the words right out of my mouth. Don't EVER fall for schemes like this. It would only mess you up in a major way. ALWAYS research a company before you do anything else. Look at their track recrod and spot red flags if any. It sucks you had to go through all this JCF. I hope the responses in this thread taught you a lesson. The one positive is you can educate others about schemes like the one you went through.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2015 21:52:41 GMT -5
Sorry to hear that mate; that's a lesson to learn from - if it sounds too good to be true, it often (always) is...
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Post by poindizzle on May 10, 2015 22:54:46 GMT -5
The question to ask is what sort of motivation this place has to fire a person and have such a short turnaround time on it's employees. The answer is money, I just don't have the equation, but the solution is always money.
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