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Post by Planktung on Sept 14, 2015 22:35:53 GMT -5
Obvious RAW spoilers ahead if you have yet to watch.
It's been made clear for some time now that the "Divas Revolution" happening on the main roster is anything but. Calling up Sasha Banks, Charlotte and Becky Lynch all at once was never going to be the answer to fixing the Divas division. It isn't just the talent that makes the NXT women's division the phenomenon that it has become. They're given time in matches and effort in character development, two things that the women of the main roster hardly receive. Sasha and Bayley had, in my opinion, the best match this year among all active wrestling promotions. Not just because the in-ring work was exceptional, but because it told a story. It had emotion. With every spot that the two of them pulled out, you were on the edge of your seat because you were given reasons to care for what you were watching.
WWE has attempted to recreate that on the main roster, but it's just not possible. Throwing Team PCB, Team Bella and Team B.A.D into miscellaneous matches with each other for two months isn't going to do anything other than give the new girls exposure to the portion of the worldwide audience that had not seem them in NXT. They have not been provided with any of the other elements that make the NXT division special. Along with all of that, this attempt at a revolution came at the worst possible time - right in the midst of Nikki Bella on her way to ending AJ Lee's record. At ANY other time frame, this might have been better. However, because the WWE had a set goal for Nikki, Sasha, Charlotte and Becky were not going to be made priorities.
Fast forward to tonight. I personally believe that WWE did a decent job at making Nikki and Charlotte's match feel big. It was made clear to the audience that there were historical implications in the match. Regardless of who won and lost, the outcome would be a big deal. And what happened? We got a false finish in which nobody came out looking good. WWE, however, got what they ultimately were set out for. Nikki has the record now for longest reigning Divas Champion. In the process, they deteriorated whatever bit of life was left in the Divas Revolution. Not because Nikki is champion, but because there isn't any chance of the main roster division even capturing a fraction of the success to that of the NXT division. Fans hardly care and for good reasons. When you give an audience terrible television, you're going to get terrible results. And while this is all happening, Sasha and Bayley are going to compete in what could be the final exceptional women's bout under the WWE banner for the time being on October 7th.
As a huge supporter of women's pro wrestling and someone who very badly wants to see the girls succeed, this really hurts. The Divas Revolution was immensely forced onto the viewers. I forget who said this previously, but credit to them. Don't just tell us that something is going to be good. Give us something good. WWE couldn't do that and ultimately, the Divas Revolution failed.
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Sept 14, 2015 22:41:24 GMT -5
Meh, glad Nikki Bella is now the longest reigning Diva's Champion. The less I have to hear of AJ Lee, the better. I heard there was a meme saying AJ Lee Who?
Looking forward to the Bellabration on SmackDown this week.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Sept 14, 2015 22:56:30 GMT -5
The Divas Revolution happens every Tuesday night at 9 pm on E! Network. For anyone that thinks otherwise is just crazy.
Total Divas is all that matters when it comes to the divas division. I said it from the beginning, that Charlotte, Becky and Sasha were brought up to be fed to Nikki until Eva Marie is ready to appear and challenge Nikki for the Divas Title.
As for this Sunday, I still have a feeling Nikki Bella will walk out Divas Champion. Why make someone break the record only to lose the title six days later?? I think Nikki will hold it for quite some time - dare I say even to Wrestlemania 32.
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Post by rkmo: Cheats & Geeks on Sept 14, 2015 23:06:28 GMT -5
If you take the scuttlebutt around Eva Marie in NXT to heart, she is viewed as the future of the Women's/Diva's division. Dare I say, I seriously wouldn't doubt the WWE putting both titles on her simultaneously.
That's all I need to say about this false hashtag trending "revolution."
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Post by Daria on Sept 14, 2015 23:12:34 GMT -5
Sasha and Becky and Charlotte are still fine. All of them are undefeated in singles matches and are booked so much better then the other main roster girls
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Post by ayato1381 on Sept 14, 2015 23:12:45 GMT -5
Obvious RAW spoilers ahead if you have yet to watch. It's been made clear for some time now that the "Divas Revolution" happening on the main roster is anything but. Calling up Sasha Banks, Charlotte and Becky Lynch all at once was never going to be the answer to fixing the Divas division. It isn't just the talent that makes the NXT women's division the phenomenon that it has become. They're given time in matches and effort in character development, two things that the women of the main roster hardly receive. Sasha and Bayley had, in my opinion, the best match this year among all active wrestling promotions. Not just because the in-ring work was exceptional, but because it told a story. It had emotion. With every spot that the two of them pulled out, you were on the edge of your seat because you were given reasons to care for what you were watching. WWE has attempted to recreate that on the main roster, but it's just not possible. Throwing Team PCB, Team Bella and Team B.A.D into miscellaneous matches with each other for two months isn't going to do anything other than give the new girls exposure to the portion of the worldwide audience that had not seem them in NXT. They have not been provided with any of the other elements that make the NXT division special. Along with all of that, this attempt at a revolution came at the worst possible time - right in the midst of Nikki Bella on her way to ending AJ Lee's record. At ANY other time frame, this might have been better. However, because the WWE had a set goal for Nikki, Sasha, Charlotte and Becky were not going to be made priorities. Fast forward to tonight. I personally believe that WWE did a decent job at making Nikki and Charlotte's match feel big. It was made clear to the audience that there were historical implications in the match. Regardless of who won and lost, the outcome would be a big deal. And what happened? We got a false finish in which nobody came out looking good. WWE, however, got what they ultimately were set out for. Nikki has the record now for longest reigning Divas Champion. In the process, they deteriorated whatever bit of life was left in the Divas Revolution. Not because Nikki is champion, but because there isn't any chance of the main roster division even capturing a fraction of the success to that of the NXT division. Fans hardly care and for good reasons. When you give an audience terrible television, you're going to get terrible results. And while this is all happening, Sasha and Bayley are going to compete in what could be the final exceptional women's bout under the WWE banner for the time being on October 7th. As a huge supporter of women's pro wrestling and someone who very badly wants to see the girls succeed, this really hurts. The Divas Revolution was immensely forced onto the viewers. I forget who said this previously, but credit to them. Don't just tell us that something is going to be good. Give us something good. WWE couldn't do that and ultimately, the Divas Revolution failed. All of this, totally agree. We could've had something really special tonight, almost a passing of the guard type moment, especially after weeks of crap. Nikki ties the record, loses to Charlotte and now the so called revolution can begin. Instead...Twin Magic, tee-hee, like they did when they were actually identical twins. Nikki breaking AJ's record doesn't bother me, it is being fed the same old crap every week that does and being told it is a revolution. A revolution on Raw for women would be having a match like the Sasha vs. Bailey match from NXT Takeover. A revolution is not look we have more of these women athletes that are the latest thing, and they are on your tv longer. Is it good, no, but we have women now, like Ronda Rousey. Ugh. And record or not, personally AJ will always be better in my opinion then Nikki Bella for her contributions to the WWE product and history, so like Cena's 15 World Title Losses...I mean wins, I personally don't care. HEELRyan, who is the girl on your avatar? And well said my friend. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2015 23:24:46 GMT -5
I thought Nikki vs Charlotte was fine until the ending why couldn't Fox or Brie just attack Charlotte so she would lose by DQ and keep her title? I mean as soon as we saw brie dressed as Nikki it was too obvious at this point.
But I do agree this divas revolution is pretty much just sasha,Becky and Charlotte the other girls aren't helping anything.What happened to that push naomi had a few months ago all that talk and for what? nothing.Brie Bella,Fox,Tamina and even paige are useless you make them look pathetic out there but I guess someone has to lose.This whole thing was just a mess big disappointment.
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Post by Midnight on Sept 14, 2015 23:41:08 GMT -5
Meh, glad Nikki Bella is now the longest reigning Diva's Champion. The less I have to hear of AJ Lee, the better. I heard there was a meme saying AJ Lee Who? Looking forward to the Bellabration on SmackDown this week. This. |
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Post by AmericanMadeLesGold on Sept 14, 2015 23:46:00 GMT -5
I gotta agree with you on your points. I am very sick of the same recycled story-lines over and over...
If i gotta see Brie dress up as Nikki, screw someone over, and then pull the stuffing out of her bra again, I'm gunna lose it.
Am I the only one confused by the fact that Paige is 22 and Charlotte is like 30 and she's been around the business forever, but Paige is taking Charlotte under her wing?
Now Paige seems complacent, which is polar opposite of the character she has been developing for years now.
Have to say that the character development is lacking across the board, not just for divas, and it's been really disappointing.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 0:09:04 GMT -5
Becky, Charlotte & Sasha debuting has been the high watermark of this whole thing so far for me. That was an awesome segment. Other than that, outside of a few good matches it has sucked from the moment Steph put her face on it & made it about her. The names in a hat mix & match tag matches for the last few months have been tiresome.
The thing that bothers me the most is Team Bad. Naomi & Tamina don't even belong on the same ramp that Sasha walks. It's pathetic.
Now that the "illustrious" title reign record has been broken, maybe this can finally become interesting. The seeds for a Paige heel turn have been planted & judging by her mannerisms during her match are beginning to take root.
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Post by AmericanMadeLesGold on Sept 15, 2015 0:44:22 GMT -5
Becky, Charlotte & Sasha debuting has been the high watermark of this whole thing so far for me. That was an awesome segment. Other than that, outside of a few good matches it has sucked from the moment Steph put her face on it & made it about her. The names in a hat mix & match tag matches for the last few months have been tiresome. The thing that bothers me the most is Team Bad. Naomi & Tamina don't even belong on the same ramp that Sasha walks. It's pathetic. Now that the "illustrious" title reign record has been broken, maybe this can finally become interesting. The seeds for a Paige heel turn have been planted & judging by her mannerisms during her match are beginning to take root. Paige needs to heel turn, good call. Also, it feels like Sasha is becoming the leader of team B.A.D at least, which is nice to see. |
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Post by ayato1381 on Sept 15, 2015 2:20:23 GMT -5
Look at it like this: She won it in 30 seconds by having her sister kiss AJ. Then 290 plus days of nothing, and then she retained it tonight by having her sister switch places with her to cheat to keep it. Amazing. If anyone should be pissed about Nikki breaking the record it should be Brie cause she did all the work, HA!!
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Post by MELO on Sept 15, 2015 2:42:49 GMT -5
So Nikki can retain her title with twin magic.
...yet she can't lose her title with twin magic. I'm sorry but where was Stephanie before?
I really don't think her work warrants her having that recognition. The perks of being with the face of the company.
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Post by AmericanMadeLesGold on Sept 15, 2015 2:49:54 GMT -5
So Nikki can retain her title with twin magic. ...yet she can't lose her title with twin magic. I'm sorry but where was Stephanie before? I really don't think her work warrants her having that recognition. The perks of being with the face of the company. You are correct, they just ignored it that time... And the other time when Paige pinned Brie. They let the match continue for Nikki to Rack-attack Paige... They Should have DQ'd Nikki as soon as they knew Brie interfered. And where was Steph to come out either of those times? So lame... |
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Post by T R W on Sept 15, 2015 6:09:01 GMT -5
The Divas Revolution thing has been disappointing, BUT the Divas division has still gotten better because of it.
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Post by Quazimoto on Sept 15, 2015 7:19:05 GMT -5
I think people need to remember that revolutions don't happen overnight. Hell, it took months for Stone Cold to become a massive superstar after the Austin 3:16 promo. Be patient.
Now that Nikki has the record for longest Diva's Championship reign, things will more likely than not start to change a bit more. I fully expect that Charlotte takes the strap at Night Of Champions. Nikki hadn't defended her title for months prior to last night (at the Beast In The East show was the last time, I believe). It's pretty clear that the ONLY reason she was still holding it at all was to give John Cena's girlfriend the record for longest reign (seriously, anyone who actually thinks that didn't play a huge role in what happened last night is either a tremendous fool or painfully naïve). I'll give Nikki Bella a lot of credit for working to improve her ring work a great deal in the past couple years. She damn sure deserved to be Diva's Champion. But, she doesn't deserve to be the longest reigning Diva's Champion on her own merit because as much as she has improved, she's still middle of the pack in terms of talent (well, upper middle now that AJ Lee's gone and Natalya is no where to be found).
I actually liked last night's finish. Made perfect sense given how the Bellas had succeeded in the past and given how Nikki has held onto the title thus far. Not only that, but it provided a reason for the stipulation on Sunday. Now Nikki can't hide behind shenanigans with Twin Magic. She has to actually win to keep her title, not just avoid being pinned or tapping out. Yeah, we've seen it before, but that's the point. Nikki can't use her old tricks next time she puts the belt on the line.
The Diva's Revolution, like any other revolution, will take time. It's only started a few months ago. They're still in the early conflict period. Be patient.
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Post by tiny04 on Sept 15, 2015 7:48:02 GMT -5
Heel champion cheats to keep title. Fans upset. Shocking.
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Post by Kanenite on Sept 15, 2015 7:51:07 GMT -5
Really, I think WWE is only doing this "Divas Revolution" stuff to try and cash in on Ronda Rousey type hype, where people want to see not only guys who can kick ass, but girls too.
They think as long as there is a bunch of Divas on screen (or giving them two segments), everyone will think they are giving the Divas a chance like the trending topic from months ago on Twitter (and to some casual viewers, it works). In reality though, this "Revolution" is horrible and all it's really doing is producing longer Divas matches I don't care about because of the horrible booking and "storyline", versus the old way of quick Divas matches with Divas I don't really care about.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Sept 15, 2015 8:09:35 GMT -5
Heel champion cheats to keep title. Fans upset. Shocking. I'm pretty sure the OP's issue wasn't with a "heel champion cheating to keep the title." He even says that his issues aren't with Nikki as champion. It's more the entire "Divas Revolution" and how piss poor it has been. |
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Sept 15, 2015 8:34:30 GMT -5
Also, anyone else notice the lack of consistency?
The Bellas pulled twin magic at Money in the Bank. Paige pinned Brie. Brie revealed that she wasn't Nikki and the match continued leading to Nikki winning with a rollup.
Here, the same thing happens but it is a DQ. Why wouldn't this match continue like that one?
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