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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jan 25, 2016 0:06:32 GMT -5
Or...or...or Tna...you coulda just re signed aj to the deal that he wanted instead of throwing money at lashley, Mvp, the dudleys, or Claire lynch, then you wouldn't need to do this? Hmmmmm? Maybe something like that Tna? Hmmmmm? Pretty much what I was gonna say. Did AJ screw TNA over? Dont know. Did he sign a contract? Dont know. Is TNA lieing? Dont know. Should TNA have issued this press release? NO. You have nothing to gain. The wrestling community wont have sympathy for you, even if you deserve it, bc of past transgressions. You have to get back in their good graces before you can become a sympathetic character. Thats why WWE has failed with Cena and now rapidly losing Reigns. The bottom line is TNA put themselves in this situation when they didnt lock AJ in years ago and let the guy walk out the door. They called AJ their franchise...their Sting. Why WCW never lost Sting to WWE, who went after him hard over and over, was because Sting had a sense of loyalty and fairness. He made it perfectly known what WCW would need to agree to in order for him to return. He wasnt greedy and had a good relationship with WCW brass. AJ/Sting was a mirrored situation....till TNA decided that AJ wasnt as valuable as they believed and were willing to let the man go out the door. I do not believe AJ Styles, for one second, became overtly greedy and made outlandish demands. I think he wanted a fair deal to take care of his family, wrestle, have fun and doing meaningful work. TNA didnt hold up their end and AJ went elsewhere. I dont know what really happened between AJ and TNA, this last go around. But AJ was no longer just another great worker. He had become a commodity that TNA, NJPW, ROH and of course WWE were all very interested in. Perhaps TNA needs to spend less time airing dirty laundry, whether factual or not, and take a good, hard look at themselves in the mirror and accept the responsibility of screwing this deal up.....not over the past few months....but years ago. I think something like this likely, hurts their chances in the future, of ever bringing AJ back.
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The IT Factor
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Post by The IT Factor on Jan 25, 2016 7:51:28 GMT -5
I can understand perfectly why TNA would be mad, and I can understand TNA wanting to let people know that they tried to get AJ back in the company.
But that being said, the way they went about it was not a smart move. Especially, if what Meltzer says is true, could open TNA up to being sued by NJPW, over Karl Anderson.
TNA messed up here.
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Post by k5 on Jan 25, 2016 16:27:11 GMT -5
this very well may be the final nail.
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Post by johnnyaustin21 on Jan 25, 2016 17:17:10 GMT -5
Last night finally see AJ Styles make his debut in the WWE was the end of TNA.Just think over the last few years of all of the true TNA talent they have let go or lost in Styles,Jarrett,Sting,Joe,Aries,Daniels,Kaz,Sabin,Shelley,Dudley Boyz...ect TNA is a shell of its self if that and with in days Angle will be gone and their main act and draws now in The Hardy Boyz themself have stated they want to return to the WWE once their TNA deals are done.To me the biggest and most important names in TNA history are Styles,Jarrett,Sting,Angle,Joe and Beer Money,with Storm and Roode being the last men left standing on the sinking ship that is TNA.
To me right now sad as it is to say but WWE/NXT and even ROH seem more like the TNA I loved and remember then what TNA is currently and thats a very sad fact.
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Jan 25, 2016 18:10:53 GMT -5
I mean seriously. Why would people assume that a wrestling company was just 'making stuff up' ? This is TNA we're talking about.
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Post by Gone. on Jan 25, 2016 18:13:00 GMT -5
I mean seriously. Why would people assume that a wrestling company was just 'making stuff up' ? This is TNA we're talking about. It's just immature. 'The Company's liars!' Sure, they think everything is a 'big surprise' but I don't know. There seems to be some point that they were trying to make.
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Jan 25, 2016 18:18:05 GMT -5
This is TNA we're talking about. It's just immature. 'The Company's liars!' Sure, they think everything is a 'big surprise' but I don't know. There seems to be some point that they were trying to make. The only points I can see are 1. trying to get website clicks, and 2. trying to make Styles, Gallows, & Anderson look bad. Combined, those things look ignorant at best and downright petty at worst. It certainly didn't bring any good press TNA's way. Why would someone look at this situation and say, "Boy, AJ Styles would rather wrestle for WWE than TNA? Maybe I should check this TNA out."
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Post by Gone. on Jan 25, 2016 18:33:11 GMT -5
It's just immature. 'The Company's liars!' Sure, they think everything is a 'big surprise' but I don't know. There seems to be some point that they were trying to make. The only points I can see are 1. trying to get website clicks, and 2. trying to make Styles, Gallows, & Anderson look bad. Combined, those things look ignorant at best and downright petty at worst. It certainly didn't bring any good press TNA's way. Why would someone look at this situation and say, "Boy, AJ Styles would rather wrestle for WWE than TNA? Maybe I should check this TNA out." There's no positive here, unless TNA really do believe that 'fans care' about why they didn't go after the Bullet Club.
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Post by IRS on Jan 26, 2016 0:03:36 GMT -5
This is TNA we're talking about. It's just immature. 'The Company's liars!' Sure, they think everything is a 'big surprise' but I don't know. There seems to be some point that they were trying to make. The point is: AJ didn't want to sign with them, so they're going to slander him. AJ never signed a contract with them. A letter of intent is meaningless. He owes them nothing.
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Post by deskjet on Jan 26, 2016 16:43:34 GMT -5
PWI got this from Behrens: No contract was ever finalized nor signed by the parties. That I would need to be involved in the contract process was known by TNA prior to my involvement and understood by them. TNA and its 1st lawyer did not present in a timely fashion a contract that accurately reflected previous discussions at all. That created great concern tied to past experiences. In that time and prior there was other interest and there were other firm offers on the table and other discussions. TNA was aware of other interest and various conflicts. TNA was aware a final contract was required. It was creating that contract and controlled that timetable. Too much time passed early on. Other things came into play. No contract was ever finalized with TNA. To suggest I make any decision for my clients is to misunderstand my role and diminish the role each talent has in making their own decisions, and insults the talent in the process. Dixie carter insulting Tna talent? Unheard of! /sarcasm
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Post by J12 on Jan 27, 2016 14:58:50 GMT -5
The bottom line here is, whether or not this is sour grapes, it's coming off as sour grapes.
TNA has a responsibility, for the sake of their success, to position themselves as the lovable underdog that you want to root for to catch the big, bad WWE. Instead of doing that, they present themselves as petty, begrudging, low-brow misfits who grossly overestimate the value their brand carries with their own fans, and fans of pro wrestling in general.
If TNA knew that they didn't have a legal leg to stand on, but they were so hell bent on making sure that this situation became public knowledge, they could have easily said something like this:
See? How hard is that? I just threw that together in minutes. Then, TNA's fans know they made a push to sign AJ, and they look like the underdog, not the petty ex-girlfriend.
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Post by powerfred3k on Feb 16, 2016 21:50:58 GMT -5
Seriously TNA asked styles to take a 50-60 percent pay cut, that is according to reports and himself is his rf shoot interview.
TNA you can't do that to your top talents or even your mid-card guys and expect them to stay or come back a few year later.
I hope styles strung them along and burned them to settle the score. Its like i always say, don't get mad get even.
TNA could have and should have let kurt angle go to pays styles. They didn't and there ratings on 3 different tv channels has tanked.
Dixie Carter and the rest of her stooges are incompetent. Jeff Jarret got out of there at the right time. He cashed out while tna still had some value.
I personally think tna has 1-2 years left and they are done. You can't have a quarter million viewers for your 2 hour wrestling show and except to survive.
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Post by JC Motors on Feb 18, 2016 9:44:38 GMT -5
Being from Tennessee myself, I contacted my sources in Nashville who got their hands on the actual document that was signed & agreed upon by Dixie and AJ Syles. The photo is below... Seems Legit
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