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Post by HVMMONS on Feb 8, 2016 9:46:40 GMT -5
Ryder is only 30? Wow. There's still hope.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 9:56:03 GMT -5
There's a whole roster of guys in nxt...
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Post by grandmasterPRA on Feb 8, 2016 10:35:37 GMT -5
This really isn't that bad of a list. Steve Austin was 34 when he hit his peak as the top guy in the company and there are tons of great talent on this roster that are only 30 years old. Meaning they still have a good 7-10 years left in them. Guys like Ambrose, Rollins, Big E, Wyatt, The Uso's, Kevin Owens, Neville, Reigns, Rusev, Cody Rhodes, Tyler Breeze, Xavier Woods. All these guys might have another decade of wrestling left in them. If they were booked correctly then everything should be perfectly fine. Not to mention Sami Zayn is only 31, Sasha Banks is only 24, Paige is only 23, Bayley is 26, Apollo Crews is 28, Chad Gable is 29, Enzo and Cass are both 29, Alexa Bliss is 24, Emma is 26 and Peyton Royce is only 23 and Liv Morgan is 21!!! I'll take that roster for the next 10 years and be pretty happy. Assuming that they would all just get better over this time.
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Post by marino13 on Feb 8, 2016 10:45:35 GMT -5
I'd say the future is far brighter now than it was 5 years ago. I know others have brought up the NXT roster, but don't forget they also have all the young men & women that haven't made it to NXT TV yet. They are being groomed and are training daily. And WWE is making an effort to sign more talent everyday.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Feb 8, 2016 11:37:46 GMT -5
This really isn't that bad of a list. Steve Austin was 34 when he hit his peak as the top guy in the company and there are tons of great talent on this roster that are only 30 years old. Steve Austin didn't play 50/50 booking for years though. Two years after his debut, he was the top babyface in the company. He debuted around Christmas 1995... He lost to Bret at Survivor Series 1996 and from then until WrestleMania 14, he was pinned maybe once or twice that whole time. If that happened now, people would complain he's being "shoved down our throats" and WWE would panic and have him lose the big matches instead. A guy like Kofi Kingston has already been active in WWE for way longer than Austin ever was. All those years have given him a midcard stink that may never wash off. It's hard to compare anyone to Austin, Rock, Mankind etc because the company is too wishy-washy about wins and losses and star-building now. In the current era, WWE don't properly commit to making stars, and hardcore fans only want to like "buried" guys rather than stars anyway. The whole system is sick and twisted, and they're going to struggle until that changes. |
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Feb 8, 2016 12:14:23 GMT -5
The thing is that, barring major injury, guys in their early to mid 30s have a good 10-15 years in them, which is more than enough time for them to be stars and help the generation that hasn't even started yet.
There may be problems having future stars ready, but there ages aren't it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 12:22:55 GMT -5
This really isn't that bad of a list. Steve Austin was 34 when he hit his peak as the top guy in the company and there are tons of great talent on this roster that are only 30 years old. Steve Austin didn't play 50/50 booking for years though. Two years after his debut, he was the top babyface in the company. He debuted around Christmas 1995... He lost to Bret at Survivor Series 1996 and from then until WrestleMania 14, he was pinned maybe once or twice that whole time. If that happened now, people would complain he's being "shoved down our throats" and WWE would panic and have him lose the big matches instead. A guy like Kofi Kingston has already been active in WWE for way longer than Austin ever was. All those years have given him a midcard stink that may never wash off. It's hard to compare anyone to Austin, Rock, Mankind etc because the company is too wishy-washy about wins and losses and star-building now. In the current era, WWE don't properly commit to making stars, and hardcore fans only want to like "buried" guys rather than stars anyway. The whole system is sick and twisted, and they're going to struggle until that changes. This is scarily accurate. |
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Post by grandmasterPRA on Feb 8, 2016 12:38:03 GMT -5
All of this is accurate. But my overall point was that the problem isn't with the ages of the wrestlers. The problem is with the booking of the wrestlers. If booked properly, we have a ton of great talent that could be around for a long time.
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Post by stoptheclocks on Feb 8, 2016 13:48:31 GMT -5
Finn Balor will be 35 in July! Always thought he was younger than that. I personally don't think age should have anything to do with it but when you have guys in their 30s who have beat their bodies to crap over the last 10-15 years on the indies and japan it is a bit of a worry. Sami Zayn put his shoulder out getting into the ring, Hideo Itami has blown his knees out in Japan and now his shoulder in NXT, and then there's Daniel Bryan  If they can't stay healthy when they get to the main roster they won't be given any serious chances. |
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Post by Darkhawk on Feb 8, 2016 16:34:12 GMT -5
Okay some of you guys get what I'm trying to say, but most of you missed the point. Age does matter in the WWE, I'm sure you guys know as you get old your body gets old as well, right? If you don't understand go run a lap outside or play sports I guarantee you'll be gassed out and sore the next day, because you can't do what you use to do as a teen. So age does matter. A great amount of superstars have been injured this year and WWE has suffered from this, so seeing this I realize that WWE needs to invest in young guys who can go. Yes most of the guys are around mid 30's and close to being 40. The current roster preforming for WWE for the next 5 to 8 years is a huge MAYBE. Doesn't matter how great of a wrestler you are, a perfect example is Daniel Bryan who sadly had to retire today.
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Post by Darkhawk on Feb 8, 2016 16:44:20 GMT -5
The title of this thread should be "WWE Lacks Commitment To Push Future Stars". They have THE most talented roster they have ever had and they have no clue what to do with it. The idea of these guys in their mid to late 30s cant give you 10 years is crazy in today's wrestling world. The problem is WWE isnt concerned about securing the future. I thought they had turned a corner when Rollins, Ambrose and Reigns got insta pushes and became main event players. But I see Owens, Cesaro, Ziggler....all blowing in the wind. Age does matter in the WWE lol wrestling takes a huge toll on your body. The fact is the current roster performing in the next 10 years is a HUGE MAYBE. WWE isn't building any new stars and by the time they do it'll be too late. Guys like Cesaro will probably be WWE champion when he's 40. Rollins is only 29 so he's still good as long as he doesn't get too many injuries. |
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Post by Darkhawk on Feb 8, 2016 16:50:47 GMT -5
I guess once you hit 30 you can basically be considered 100 in wrestling. Legit so dumb that people think that.. Flair wrestled into his 60's and he was never "ripped" Triple H is still wrestling for gods sakes and so does Undertaker. People think being in your 30's is so old. These guys are in beyond amazing shape and are as healthy as can be. As long as they stay like that, they can wrestle however long they want You forget that Flair has his own style of wrestling, he didn't do flips, jumps or take hard bumps like most of the current roster does. Age does matter, Triple H and Undertaker preform maybe 2-3 times a year. Again if the roster is healthy then why did a great amount of wrestlers get injured these past few months? Daniel Bryan was in great shape and he had to retire. Sami Zayn was in great shape too and he got injured from just raising his arm to fast. I'm not saying WWE should get 18 years old right off the bat, but they should get guys in their mid 20's. Rollins is only 29 and he's done a great job in the WWE so far. |
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Post by tylerbreezee on Feb 8, 2016 16:53:05 GMT -5
Legit so dumb that people think that.. Flair wrestled into his 60's and he was never "ripped" Triple H is still wrestling for gods sakes and so does Undertaker. People think being in your 30's is so old. These guys are in beyond amazing shape and are as healthy as can be. As long as they stay like that, they can wrestle however long they want You forget that Flair has his own style of wrestling, he didn't do flips, jumps or take hard bumps like most of the current roster does. Age does matter, Triple H and Undertaker preform maybe 2-3 times a year. Again if the roster is healthy then why did a great amount of wrestlers get injured these past few months? Daniel Bryan was in great shape and he had to retire. Sami Zayn was in great shape too and he got injured from just raising his arm to fast. I'm not saying WWE should get 18 years old right off the bat, but they should get guys in their mid 20's. Rollins is only 29 and he's done a great job in the WWE so far. Being healthy has nothing to do with injuries though. I just mean eating right, feeling great, etc. You could be healthy and get injured, you can be unhealthy and get injured. They do dangerous stuff a lot of the time and healthy or not there's a high chance of getting hurt |
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Post by The Future on Feb 8, 2016 16:54:55 GMT -5
Ummm, yeah. So the issue with not having 'stars' isn't anyone's age. It's the WWE's unwillingness to make anyone a star who is not named Roman.
There are plenty of wrestlers with at least 15 years left in the tank, or who have barely scratched the surface of their potential...but that potential won't be realized if there's always a glass ceiling or WWE lacks foresight by only pushing part-timers and 45 year olds for the next 10 years.
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Post by l on Feb 8, 2016 17:43:00 GMT -5
Age isn't as much a factor today as it was in the 80s or 90s. Main reason being guys could barely walk in their mid 40s since they had been performing since they were 17. WWE is recruiting people like Reigns and Big E who started training later after other careers. The bigger issue isn't age, it's developing what they have. Bray Wyatt for example has been on the main roster since he was 26 and they continue to misuse his talents. Yup. Wyatt could be great but they fail to utilize him in a way that matters. I'm cool with him being part of the family but they have a stable full of huge monsters. Why not use that to his advantage. I think my biggest issue isn't the failure to develop young talent. It's that everything is so predictable. Aside from Callisto beating Del Rio recently, what has happened that was unexpected? Literally nothing. |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Feb 8, 2016 18:40:41 GMT -5
The title of this thread should be "WWE Lacks Commitment To Push Future Stars". They have THE most talented roster they have ever had and they have no clue what to do with it. The idea of these guys in their mid to late 30s cant give you 10 years is crazy in today's wrestling world. The problem is WWE isnt concerned about securing the future. I thought they had turned a corner when Rollins, Ambrose and Reigns got insta pushes and became main event players. But I see Owens, Cesaro, Ziggler....all blowing in the wind. Age does matter in the WWE lol wrestling takes a huge toll on your body. The fact is the current roster performing in the next 10 years is a HUGE MAYBE. WWE isn't building any new stars and by the time they do it'll be too late. Guys like Cesaro will probably be WWE champion when he's 40. Rollins is only 29 so he's still good as long as he doesn't get too many injuries. You are repeating what I basically said. |
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Post by Darkhawk on Feb 8, 2016 18:46:27 GMT -5
Age does matter in the WWE lol wrestling takes a huge toll on your body. The fact is the current roster performing in the next 10 years is a HUGE MAYBE. WWE isn't building any new stars and by the time they do it'll be too late. Guys like Cesaro will probably be WWE champion when he's 40. Rollins is only 29 so he's still good as long as he doesn't get too many injuries. You are repeating what I basically said. I read your post all wrong lol my bad, it's been a long day. |
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Post by Cody Rhodes Diva on Feb 8, 2016 19:24:41 GMT -5
I think much of the reason is that Vince McMahon and Kevin Dunn are more concerned about selling more tickets and earning more money as well as catering to the casual fan than developing talent. This is why McMahon and Dunn rely on guys like John Cena, Randy Orton, Big Show, Kane, Brock Lesnar, The Rock and Undertaker is because they can trust them. Another reason is backstage politics. The reason Roman Reigns is being pushed is because he has the size and look that McMahon and Dunn envy and having that family pedigree while much of the mid-card does not.
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Post by famdamuxwl on Feb 8, 2016 19:34:21 GMT -5
30's is old LMFAO!!!!
Sting had his 1st WWE Match at the age of 56
Hulk Hogan started his "Hollywood" Run at the age of 42
Shawn Michaels returned from his retirement at the age of 36
One of the greatest matches ever happened at Wrestle Mania 25. Shawn Michaels (AGE: 43) vs. The Undertaker (AGE: 43)
Bret Hart won his first World Championship at the age of 34
Are you kidding me.... Most wrestlers hit there prime in there 30's.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 21:29:30 GMT -5
Look at the age of the current champion. He can still put on good matches. Look at NXT. Everything is going to be alright.
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