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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 20:59:53 GMT -5
Reigns is not a badass. If anything, he's a secret heel. At the Royal Rumble, he was good enough to walk to the back on his own, so he effectively cheated his way out of the match for a while so he could run in at the end and steal it. The character development isn't there, the talent isn't there (he's a solid in-ring performer don't get me wrong) and he has no identity. He deserves to be booed out of the 100,000 filled stadium. Pseudo Cena is not interesting. Having him off TV has been pretty good. Less dick jokes and more time for Ambrose to be a badass, great HHH promos and Shane being awesome. This sounds like a Russo swerve. I'd be down.
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Post by attitudesback on Mar 13, 2016 21:16:23 GMT -5
Reigns is not a badass. If anything, he's a secret heel. At the Royal Rumble, he was good enough to walk to the back on his own, so he effectively cheated his way out of the match for a while so he could run in at the end and steal it. The character development isn't there, the talent isn't there (he's a solid in-ring performer don't get me wrong) and he has no identity. He deserves to be booed out of the 100,000 filled stadium. Pseudo Cena is not interesting. Having him off TV has been pretty good. Less dick jokes and more time for Ambrose to be a badass, great HHH promos and Shane being awesome. This sounds like a Russo swerve. I'd be down. Him being a secret heel? It'd be alright, wouldn't make much sense because the whole Sheamus stuff and HHH entering the Rumble but WWE just try so hard to make him strong (I know that's the internet meme with reigns but it's painfully true) it damages his character. When it Reigns, it bores.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 22:15:13 GMT -5
Lana has always gotten huge pops which kind of confuses me even though she's hot. I wasn't really counting Brie since she's getting the Daniel Bryan effect. I love Becky Lynch, but I think she should have stayed in NXT a bit longer. She came very close to beating Sasha in a great match (that I found better than all but one women's match ever) and never got a run with the title there. Then, she spent the first few months on the main roster as Charlotte's hotter friend. Becky absolutely wasn't ready for the main roster. She's out of place. Doobie's been on fire in this thread.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 22:15:38 GMT -5
Becky absolutely wasn't ready for the main roster. She's out of place. Doobie's been on fire in this thread. Lol thanks.
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Post by A-Rob on Mar 14, 2016 2:56:18 GMT -5
After watching Roadblock i can say it wasn't worth paying alot of money to go to live, luckily i didn't since it was an average show. Triple H vs. Ambrose was good (***1/2), The NXT tag title match was fun and Charlotte vs. Nattie was fine but not even close to their NXT Women's title match from 2 years ago.
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Post by rudos on Mar 14, 2016 3:58:37 GMT -5
Can you post a pic of the litho? Love seeing the artwork. Makes a great keepsake for live events. That looks awesome. A great keepsake indeed. Thanks for posting.
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Post by AJ F'n Brooks on Mar 14, 2016 5:12:38 GMT -5
Still odd to see him on TV three days later. It also doesn't change that it's super weird to give this "badass" so much time off when they don't do it for their more popular babyface. It is odd seeing him on TV three days later. But that's on Triple H for not selling the storyline properly. By what you heard them say on WWE television and the time he officialy "took off" you can tell that he was suposed to be selling the beatdown. Which it's kinda what he did if you take that incident away... Roman Reigns is recovering from nose surgery is there even any comparison to the regular beatings Dean took? I don't think so. The more "agressive" beating Dean took, Roman took one identical and he also didn't take time off for it. In kayfabe, Triple H can take all the time off he wants because he's only part time and he runs the place. Then he came back to strike Roman Reigns when it would hurt him most to take his title off him. Whereas with Reigns he should want to come back for revenge as soon as he can. When you've got Ambrose getting destroyed by Lesnar and HHH then showing up to the next show, Roman taking a month off for a sore nose just makes him look like a little bitch.Plus there's a difference taking the time between TLC and Royal Rumble off and taking a few weeks off in the build up to Wrestlemania. I'm blaming none of this on Reigns. I think creative is handling his bad crowd reactions terribly. Ambrose getting beat up I already adressed in my response to Kev. Roman Reigns is not taking time off for a sore nose. Roman Reigns broke is nose and needed surgery to repair it(in kayfabe that is). I agree that he should want to come back as soon as possible. Thing is, guy had legitimate nose surgery IRL. When he comes back it should be to get revenge, so he should be able to get physical. Wich in the past two weeks he most probably couldn't. When John Cena broke is nose recently(Raw July 27, 2015) and got surgery to repair it, he only got physical at SummerSlam(August 23, 2015). That is 26 days off physical contact. Thus far Reigns has been 20 days off. Seems fair to me. People disliking the timing of his surgery is alright. Saying that he's taking to much time to come back to television and he's being made to look like a little b*tch is not right. And you can't claim for a fact that they are keeping him off tv for storyline. Last time I checked you don't work backstage either. But given the reactions Roman has been getting, it's not hard to believe the dirt sheets that they purposly kept him off tv in places like Chicago. Dean has taken multiple beatings from HHH and Lesnar and is on TV every week. Doesn't really make sense that this "Samoan Badass" is selling injuries when Dean has arguably taken worse kayfabe beatings... What do we know? Kayfabe wise Roman Reigns broke is nose and is recovering from surgery. IRL Roman Reigns was injured and needed surgery so he got it and is recovering from it. That's all we got. Everything else is just speculation and rumors. Dean has arguably taken worse kayfabe beatings? Ok now that's you being bias(against Roman and favoring Dean). The beating Dean took from Triple H was way softer than the one Roman took from the same person. Dean got beat up by Brock Lesnar in the parking lot and was suplexed through the windshield, is that what you're referring to? Is that worse than getting your nose broken? No. Roman got beat up against a car as well and he didn't take time off for it.
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Post by cordless2016 on Mar 14, 2016 6:18:37 GMT -5
Still odd to see him on TV three days later. It also doesn't change that it's super weird to give this "badass" so much time off when they don't do it for their more popular babyface. It is odd seeing him on TV three days later. But that's on Triple H for not selling the storyline properly. By what you heard them say on WWE television and the time he officialy "took off" you can tell that he was suposed to be selling the beatdown. Which it's kinda what he did if you take that incident away... Roman Reigns is recovering from nose surgery is there even any comparison to the regular beatings Dean took? I don't think so. The more "agressive" beating Dean took, Roman took one identical and he also didn't take time off for it. In kayfabe, Triple H can take all the time off he wants because he's only part time and he runs the place. Then he came back to strike Roman Reigns when it would hurt him most to take his title off him. Whereas with Reigns he should want to come back for revenge as soon as he can. When you've got Ambrose getting destroyed by Lesnar and HHH then showing up to the next show, Roman taking a month off for a sore nose just makes him look like a little bitch.Plus there's a difference taking the time between TLC and Royal Rumble off and taking a few weeks off in the build up to Wrestlemania. I'm blaming none of this on Reigns. I think creative is handling his bad crowd reactions terribly. Ambrose getting beat up I already adressed in my response to Kev. Roman Reigns is not taking time off for a sore nose. Roman Reigns broke is nose and needed surgery to repair it(in kayfabe that is). I agree that he should want to come back as soon as possible. Thing is, guy had legitimate nose surgery IRL. When he comes back it should be to get revenge, so he should be able to get physical. Wich in the past two weeks he most probably couldn't. When John Cena broke is nose recently(Raw July 27, 2015) and got surgery to repair it, he only got physical at SummerSlam(August 23, 2015). That is 26 days off physical contact. Thus far Reigns has been 20 days off. Seems fair to me. People disliking the timing of his surgery is alright. Saying that he's taking to much time to come back to television and he's being made to look like a little b*tch is not right. And you can't claim for a fact that they are keeping him off tv for storyline. Last time I checked you don't work backstage either. But given the reactions Roman has been getting, it's not hard to believe the dirt sheets that they purposly kept him off tv in places like Chicago. Dean has taken multiple beatings from HHH and Lesnar and is on TV every week. Doesn't really make sense that this "Samoan Badass" is selling injuries when Dean has arguably taken worse kayfabe beatings... What do we know? Kayfabe wise Roman Reigns broke is nose and is recovering from surgery. IRL Roman Reigns was injured and needed surgery so he got it and is recovering from it. That's all we got. Everything else is just speculation and rumors. Dean has arguably taken worse kayfabe beatings? Ok now that's you being bias(against Roman and favoring Dean). The beating Dean took from Triple H was way softer than the one Roman took from the same person. Dean got beat up by Brock Lesnar in the parking lot and was suplexed through the windshield, is that what you're referring to? Is that worse than getting your nose broken? No. Roman got beat up against a car as well and he didn't take time off for it. How is it bias? They showed Dean attacked in the parking lot and sent to the hospital in a neck brace and he dragged himself back to the arena to face Brock. Let's also not forget about 10 years ago when Trish broke her nose and she was in tv every week, even defending the women's title.
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Post by AJ F'n Brooks on Mar 14, 2016 6:58:05 GMT -5
How is it bias? They showed Dean attacked in the parking lot and sent to the hospital in a neck brace and he dragged himself back to the arena to face Brock. Let's also not forget about 10 years ago when Trish broke her nose and she was in tv every week, even defending the women's title. The beating Dean Ambrose took was kiddy stuff in comparison to the bloody beating Triple H gave to Roman. Reigns took a identical beating to the one Dean Ambrose took and Roman didn't need the neck brace and he didn't need to go to the hospital. Walked to the back on his own and just like Dean took no time off to "recover". Who's more tough in comparison? Right. So how is that not being biased? As for the Trish stuff. I wasn't watching wrestling back then like I'm watching now so I don't know what happened and can't compare. What I can tell you though is that Roman Reigns also suffered is injury while being the champion(House Show 12/30/15) and only now has been given time to properly take care of it. So he was also on TV wrestling weekly and even defending the world championship injured.
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Post by bigshab421 on Mar 14, 2016 7:06:09 GMT -5
I think Swagger/Jericho and Zayn/Stardust were absolute misfires in terms of booking.
Can you imagine the pop that would have happened is Sami's music would have hit while Jericho was running down how crappy Canada was. Even a dirty loss to Y2J would have done wonders for Zayn, instead we got duds.
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Post by tiny04 on Mar 14, 2016 9:36:12 GMT -5
It is odd seeing him on TV three days later. But that's on Triple H for not selling the storyline properly. By what you heard them say on WWE television and the time he officialy "took off" you can tell that he was suposed to be selling the beatdown. Which it's kinda what he did if you take that incident away... Roman Reigns is recovering from nose surgery is there even any comparison to the regular beatings Dean took? I don't think so. The more "agressive" beating Dean took, Roman took one identical and he also didn't take time off for it. Ambrose getting beat up I already adressed in my response to Kev. Roman Reigns is not taking time off for a sore nose. Roman Reigns broke is nose and needed surgery to repair it(in kayfabe that is). I agree that he should want to come back as soon as possible. Thing is, guy had legitimate nose surgery IRL. When he comes back it should be to get revenge, so he should be able to get physical. Wich in the past two weeks he most probably couldn't. When John Cena broke is nose recently(Raw July 27, 2015) and got surgery to repair it, he only got physical at SummerSlam(August 23, 2015). That is 26 days off physical contact. Thus far Reigns has been 20 days off. Seems fair to me. People disliking the timing of his surgery is alright. Saying that he's taking to much time to come back to television and he's being made to look like a little b*tch is not right. What do we know? Kayfabe wise Roman Reigns broke is nose and is recovering from surgery. IRL Roman Reigns was injured and needed surgery so he got it and is recovering from it. That's all we got. Everything else is just speculation and rumors. Dean has arguably taken worse kayfabe beatings? Ok now that's you being bias(against Roman and favoring Dean). The beating Dean took from Triple H was way softer than the one Roman took from the same person. Dean got beat up by Brock Lesnar in the parking lot and was suplexed through the windshield, is that what you're referring to? Is that worse than getting your nose broken? No. Roman got beat up against a car as well and he didn't take time off for it. How is it bias? They showed Dean attacked in the parking lot and sent to the hospital in a neck brace and he dragged himself back to the arena to face Brock. Let's also not forget about 10 years ago when Trish broke her nose and she was in tv every week, even defending the women's title. Also add in that Dean's attack happened at the hands of Brock Lesnar. That automatically makes Dean the tougher man.
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Post by AJ F'n Brooks on Mar 14, 2016 10:27:55 GMT -5
Also add in that Dean's attack happened at the hands of Brock Lesnar. That automatically makes Dean the tougher man. That's just reaching. And only show that people really are bias. The attacks were the same. Brock or not. You just need to compare how both cars looked after the attacks. But hey, lets also add in that Dean took 33 days off TV just for a sore face. What a little b*tch. Double standards once again. I actually had a conversation with Kev about this not so long ago. This all argument is just another addition to the examples I had then. So let me see if I got it correctly: Roman is a little b*tch because he's recovering from nose surgery for 20 days off television. Dean is tough guy and took 33 days off television to recover from a sore face. Gotcha! Never change people.
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Post by @brit_figs on Mar 14, 2016 10:42:50 GMT -5
Really didn't enjoy that at all.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Mar 14, 2016 10:51:49 GMT -5
Still odd to see him on TV three days later. It also doesn't change that it's super weird to give this "badass" so much time off when they don't do it for their more popular babyface. It is odd seeing him on TV three days later. But that's on Triple H for not selling the storyline properly. By what you heard them say on WWE television and the time he officialy "took off" you can tell that he was suposed to be selling the beatdown. Which it's kinda what he did if you take that incident away... Roman Reigns is recovering from nose surgery is there even any comparison to the regular beatings Dean took? I don't think so. The more "agressive" beating Dean took, Roman took one identical and he also didn't take time off for it. To me, their beatings were very similar. Add in that Dean went sent to the hospital in a neck brace against Brock and Dean has indeed taken worse beatings. I know Roman has a legit nose injury (though Cena legit broke his and was back on TV within two weeks), but it just adds up to being weird. Your "top babyface" is missing multiple weeks during the road to WrestleMania. Doesn't sound like good business.
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Post by tiny04 on Mar 14, 2016 11:22:34 GMT -5
Also add in that Dean's attack happened at the hands of Brock Lesnar. That automatically makes Dean the tougher man. That's just reaching. And only show that people really are bias. The attacks were the same. Brock or not. You just need to compare how both cars looked after the attacks. But hey, lets also add in that Dean took 33 days off TV just for a sore face. What a little b*tch. Double standards once again. I actually had a conversation with Kev about this not so long ago. This all argument is just another addition to the examples I had then. So let me see if I got it correctly: Roman is a little b*tch because he's recovering from nose surgery for 20 days off television. Dean is tough guy and took 33 days off television to recover from a sore face. Gotcha! Never change people. That comment I made was sarcastic and was merely bait. Thank you for taking the bait.
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Post by tiny04 on Mar 14, 2016 13:20:52 GMT -5
Last nights divas match was so far better than anything else the divas have done in a long long time. Again, I respectfully disagree. I think Becky/Charlotte from early January was slightly better. It was a good match, with a poop finish. I don't see where the super high praise is coming for it but to each their own. Couldn't remember the Becky/Charlotte match you were referring to so went back and watched it just now. I agree, Becky/Charlotte is the better match. I just forgot about it. I also think it helps watching it on the network without the long commercial break in the middle. I retract my statement about Charlotte/Natalya being the main roster women's match of the year.
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Post by JCF on Mar 14, 2016 13:39:35 GMT -5
I enjoyed this show for what it was. Loved the feel to it and the long walk to the ring... awesome.
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Post by AJ F'n Brooks on Mar 14, 2016 14:25:39 GMT -5
To me, their beatings were very similar. Add in that Dean went sent to the hospital in a neck brace against Brock and Dean has indeed taken worse beatings. I know Roman has a legit nose injury (though Cena legit broke his and was back on TV within two weeks), but it just adds up to being weird. Your "top babyface" is missing multiple weeks during the road to WrestleMania. Doesn't sound like good business. Big Show/Roman Reigns Beatdown = Brock Lesnar/Dean Ambrose Beatdown Triple H/Roman Reigns Beatdown > Brock Lesnar/Dean Ambrose Beatdown If Reigns returns tonight he also misses just two weeks. That comment I made was sarcastic and was merely bait. Thank you for taking the bait. Don't do it man. Leave the bait to the troll accounts...
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Mar 14, 2016 14:40:00 GMT -5
To me, their beatings were very similar. Add in that Dean went sent to the hospital in a neck brace against Brock and Dean has indeed taken worse beatings. I know Roman has a legit nose injury (though Cena legit broke his and was back on TV within two weeks), but it just adds up to being weird. Your "top babyface" is missing multiple weeks during the road to WrestleMania. Doesn't sound like good business. Big Show/Roman Reigns Beatdown = Brock Lesnar/Dean Ambrose Beatdown Triple H/Roman Reigns Beatdown > Brock Lesnar/Dean Ambrose Beatdown I'm pretty sure the Brock/Ambrose beating was far worse than Show/Roman but whatever.
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Post by AJ F'n Brooks on Mar 14, 2016 15:48:17 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure the Brock/Ambrose beating was far worse than Show/Roman but whatever. How exactly? If anything the Big Show/Roman Reigns was worse than Brock Lesnar/Dean Ambrose.
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