Nathan from Aus
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Post by Nathan from Aus on Jul 15, 2016 3:25:09 GMT -5
Looks disgusting, how dare Hemsworth be in such a film To be fair, almost everything he's been in has been bad. Besides his five-minute cameo in Star Trek, I'd say the Marvel movies are the only thing he's been in that's been anywhere close to good. And being honest here, I'm not super-psyched to see this because as some others said, I'm not crazy about the cast (Emma Stone, Anna Kendrick, Ellie Kemper and Jenna Fischer? I'm IN.) but I understand the appeal of them being Feig regulars.... but come on now, there is a huge sexist element that is driving the negative reaction to this movie. Yeah, the trailers have sucked, but they haven't been so bad that they should be getting such vehement anger and resentment from Ghostbusters fans. The two Ghostbusters movies hold a special, special place in my heart. As I was born in 1985, they were basically the first superheroes I ever knew, along with Batman and Hulk Hogan. I worship every piece of dialogue, comedic beat, visual gag and set piece from the first movie. But I won't act like it's so utterly golden and precious that a sequel/reboot 30 years later is going to somehow ruin the originals for me. Hell, I'm still a huge supporter of that rumored Chris Pratt/Channing Tatum spinoff that was rumored a few years ago... even if this movie sucks and every member of the original movies' cast and production team denounces the concept of any future Ghostbusters movies, I would support Pratt/Tatum making a Jump Street-type of Ghostbusters movie. FFS, I'm guessing about 95% of those who have preemptively down-voted/one-starred/thumbs-downed this movie before it even came out would be willing to give that movie an honest, open-minded watch (and newsflash: anyone that wouldn't is probably a fart-sniffing, really terrible person who is a chore to spend any time with). And I guess that's part of the reason why I won't root against this movie and will begrudgingly take my five-year-old daughter to it... she now gets to live in a world where there are female Ghostbusters. Even if the movie is terrible, there are still female Ghostbusters. That's pretty freaking cool. And all of that said, I don't expect to enjoy it because I don't particularly care for Feig/McCarthy/Wiig, but I'm not going to get my panties in a bunch because *shock!* a studio cashed in on brand recognition of something I liked when I was a kid. Im speaking for myself here, but it's not a sexist view, the movie just looks really bad and so does the cast.
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Post by gelatinoustapeworm on Jul 15, 2016 10:58:50 GMT -5
I went to the preview showing last night. It wasn't nearly as bad as I expected it to be, but it definitely wasn't great either. It's an average movie with a few good laughs. I would give it a B-.
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Post by marino13 on Jul 15, 2016 17:25:18 GMT -5
I think the one commercial gives away who the "villain" is. The voice sounds awfully familiar with the voice of a character shown in another commercial.
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Post by Nathan from Aus on Jul 15, 2016 21:08:28 GMT -5
I went to the preview showing last night. It wasn't nearly as bad as I expected it to be, but it definitely wasn't great either. It's an average movie with a few good laughs. I would give it a B-. Good enough to say it was better than the original? Some dropkick on a morning show here said and i quote "This movie is much much better than the original franchise" he also went on to say "The haters for this movie have nothing better to do" this is being said from a movie critic. And you know where he's saying the hate is coming from? Movie Critics! Man im all for empowerment for Females and stuff but this movie just sucks and thats my opinion.
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Post by gelatinoustapeworm on Jul 15, 2016 22:09:50 GMT -5
I went to the preview showing last night. It wasn't nearly as bad as I expected it to be, but it definitely wasn't great either. It's an average movie with a few good laughs. I would give it a B-. Good enough to say it was better than the original? Some dropkick on a morning show here said and i quote "This movie is much much better than the original franchise" he also went on to say "The haters for this movie have nothing better to do" this is being said from a movie critic. And you know where he's saying the hate is coming from? Movie Critics! Man im all for empowerment for Females and stuff but this movie just sucks and thats my opinion. No way, definitely not better than the original franchise, just not as bad as I expected. It had its moments and I've seen plenty of movies in the last few years that were worse. You want to watch a truly horrible movie, go see Warcraft.
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Post by johnnyb on Jul 16, 2016 10:04:06 GMT -5
I will say that I heard from one critic who I really respect that says this one is as good or better than the originals.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2016 11:14:55 GMT -5
I will say that I heard from one critic who I really respect that says this one is as good or better than the originals. I find that rather hard to believe. Not from a single person, even those who liked it have I heard that it was one of the best films ever made. The original is a classic, along the lines of Jurassic Park or ET.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2016 15:05:29 GMT -5
Basically as far as this film goes; most men hate it, or consider it to be mediocre, the best I've heard of it is "it's not quite as bad as I thought it would be" or "it's not quite as bad as the trailer would have you believe". Those aren't exactly overwhelming endorsements of quality. However most of the women who are giving their opinions of it are praising the hell out of it... From what I gather from them, they have very limited, if any comprehension or knowledge of the original films and this has become a gender war, at least on their end. They've come across as hostile and angry and as if they've got to prove that women can carry films (which they totally can).
To me this was never about women 'not being able to be Ghostbusters', or 'not being able to carry blockbusters', my favorite show of all time (Buffy) had a predominantly female cast. Hell, two of my current favorite shows are Devious Maids and Scream Queens. Both have an all-female cast. This has nothing to do with women for me. In fact, I freaking love the idea of female Ghostbusters. I probably would have gone for a mix-gender team, but that's neither here nor there, an all female team could have worked. Where this film looks to have failed is primarily in its casting of mostly horrific and unfunny actresses, and has generally been poorly executed. I could name easily 50 actresses that would have made awesome Ghostbusters in a film with the right direction.
Though I must say that I haven't seen it, and have absolutely no intention of ever watching it. The original films, both the first and second are films I hold extremely dear to my heart. I made the mistake of trying to watch the Bay TMNT movie twice, and both times had to stop because it was that bad. I've learned my lesson. This ranks up there with TMNT2 and Fantastic Four (with MBJ) as a film I'm just going to stay the hell away from.
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Post by JokerFC on Jul 17, 2016 4:10:27 GMT -5
I will say that I heard from one critic who I really respect that says this one is as good or better than the originals. .....good GOD. The trailers filled to the brim with cringe worthy Shiite alone are enough to inform most that this movie is nowhere near the first in terms of quality.
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Post by johnnyb on Jul 17, 2016 4:20:09 GMT -5
To be fair, Paul Feig is also known for making movies that don't translate well to trailers.
I'm probably going to see this next weekend... I'm very intrigued by how it will turn out.
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Post by Mox on Jul 17, 2016 4:25:37 GMT -5
Just how mad do you think people are that this is certified fresh on RT? It sort of warms my heart knowing that thousands of preconceived opinions have not been validated.
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Post by marino13 on Jul 17, 2016 9:47:38 GMT -5
I really like McKinnon, Jones, & Wigg a lot. McCarthy I can give or take. So for the most part, I'm pleased with the cast.
But I've been reading and listening to a a fair amount of reviews and most say it's okay. Not great but not awful. And I've heard a few say the same thing I did about how it would have been better to acknowledge the original in the story-arc. Because one thing they all agree on is the cameos aren't anything special.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 6:11:54 GMT -5
I'm rather baffled that Fieg could be involved in a film like Peanuts, which was so truthful to its source material and so accurately brought to life for the new era, and then do the absolute opposite of that with Ghostbusters. Just how mad do you think people are that this is certified fresh on RT? It sort of warms my heart knowing that thousands of preconceived opinions have not been validated. Honestly I doubt many people care about what a few critics think. Especially when the fan census is pretty much overwhelmingly in the corner of the movie being a crapfest.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 7:46:54 GMT -5
It's about $65 million now.
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Post by cheecheung on Jul 18, 2016 8:17:15 GMT -5
It needs roughly $363 million to break even that's based on $75 million on marketing.
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Post by marino13 on Jul 18, 2016 9:36:02 GMT -5
Here's another review. He enjoyed it, but had the same complaint I did. That they completely rebooted it as opposed to make it a continuation.
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Post by J12 on Jul 18, 2016 12:17:51 GMT -5
I saw it over the weekend. I went in with tremendously low expectations, and they were met. Maybe slightly exceeded, but not by much.
I should preface this by saying that, while I love the original Ghostbusters franchise, I had no major qualms with them rebooting it. The all female cast seemed like a potentially fun choice, depending on casting. When that information broke, I was quite pleased. I absolutely adore Kristen Wiig and Kate McKinnon. Leslie Jones is funny, and Melissa McCarthy is talented, albeit typically typecasted in roles/films that I don't find funny.
I thought the trailer was absolutely horrible, but it set me up for what to expect out of the film. It felt sort of lifeless and mostly unnecessary. It brought nothing new to the table. The comedy was light and forgettable. McKinnon stole the show by a considerable margin, she was great.
I'm finding, by and large, that Paul Feig does not write comedy I enjoy. While critics and audiences seemed to love Spy last year, I thought it was absolutely horrible. It's still unfathomable to me how it was so well received. I thought this was better, but not something I'd outright recommend.
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Post by johnnyb on Jul 18, 2016 12:25:31 GMT -5
I'm rather baffled that Fieg could be involved in a film like Peanuts, which was so truthful to its source material and so accurately brought to life for the new era, and then do the absolute opposite of that with Ghostbusters. Just how mad do you think people are that this is certified fresh on RT? It sort of warms my heart knowing that thousands of preconceived opinions have not been validated. Honestly I doubt many people care about what a few critics think. Especially when the fan census is pretty much overwhelmingly in the corner of the movie being a crapfest. www.ibtimes.co.uk/ghostbusters-reboot-imdb-statistics-breakdown-proves-haters-opinions-are-unjustified-1570264Basically, thousands of dumbass bros went WAY out of their way to give the movie terrible reviews before the movie was released or even screened for anybody. I think outside of the most hardcore of GB fans, the movie has been exceptionally well-received.
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Post by johnnyb on Jul 18, 2016 12:26:31 GMT -5
Here's another review. He enjoyed it, but had the same complaint I did. That they completely rebooted it as opposed to make it a continuation. Yeah that's a puzzling and bad choice IMO... especially when one of the trailers (the last one maybe?) even started out with "30 YEARS AGO IN NEW YORK" and showed the firehouse... they absolutely should have made this a soft reboot/sequel.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 15:24:44 GMT -5
I'm rather baffled that Fieg could be involved in a film like Peanuts, which was so truthful to its source material and so accurately brought to life for the new era, and then do the absolute opposite of that with Ghostbusters. Honestly I doubt many people care about what a few critics think. Especially when the fan census is pretty much overwhelmingly in the corner of the movie being a crapfest. www.ibtimes.co.uk/ghostbusters-reboot-imdb-statistics-breakdown-proves-haters-opinions-are-unjustified-1570264Basically, thousands of dumbass bros went WAY out of their way to give the movie terrible reviews before the movie was released or even screened for anybody. I think outside of the most hardcore of GB fans, the movie has been exceptionally well-received.That's a jump anyway. From fans on twitter, youtube etc, I'm at best seeing that 'it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be' (among all the hate). That's not an exceptional reception, that's a mediocre one. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places but most men at least seem to not like this movie.
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