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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2016 3:13:22 GMT -5
I was sitting there thinking as all the divas came out "Man, this is a solid division on Smackdown!" and then Eva Marie came out and I was like "Well, almost solid"
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Post by Bandalero on Jul 27, 2016 5:41:19 GMT -5
I was sitting there thinking as all the divas came out "Man, this is a solid division on Smackdown!" and then Eva Marie came out and I was like "Well, almost solid" Seriously? I thought Carmella's promo was horribly robotic, and i didn't hear a huge pop for her. The danger with splitting her from Enzo/Cass is that she looks like a copycat. I thought it was brilliant that Eva Marie didn't speak and her heel entrance played out, instant heat.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2016 5:50:06 GMT -5
Just watched it. RAW wins for this week. SmackDown really need to step it up if the two brands are going to compete - and bringing back Shelton Benjamin is a step in the right direction.
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Post by tarver89 on Jul 27, 2016 5:56:07 GMT -5
I didn't like the choice to have AJ being pinned.
Ziggler hasn't the status at all to challenge Ambrose for the title. I would have preferred Wyatt as n.1 contender. Dolph needs to be rebuilt after all those years jobbing to everyone and not having a major feud. Not a good choice in my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2016 5:57:05 GMT -5
I didn't like the choice to have AJ being pinned. Ziggler hasn't the status at all to challenge Ambrose for the title. I would have preferred Wyatt as n.1 contender. Dolph needs to be rebuilt after all those years jobbing to everyone and not having a major feud. Not a good choice in my opinion. Exactly what I was thinking. Look - I'm going to get hated on for this - but Ziggler vs Ambrose screams MID CARD.
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Post by tiny04 on Jul 27, 2016 6:44:12 GMT -5
Ziggler winning was a shock. I like it. No one expected him to win and now it looks like he'll booked a lot better. I've not cared for Ziggler for ages but I don't mind him getting the title match.
Also anyone saying Ambrose vs Ziggler will be a DUD is clueless. I have no doubts that it'll be an excellent match. Some people might not care a lot about it but it will be an excellent match.
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Post by ThisisDusty on Jul 27, 2016 6:47:50 GMT -5
Am I the only one that is excited to see Ziggler finally get a title shot? All I have seven on here just about is "oh it should have been Bray or AJ". Don't get me wrong I love AJ styles but if we are going on the logic that wins and losses matter and everyone is down on ziggler because of this then riddle me this, AJ has got pinned in every one of his ppv matches sof far except for money in the bank and that was because of interference. And I may be the only one but every time Bray wyatt is on TV I check my phone or get up to take a leak because if you wanna talk about someone who has been destroyed the last few years Bray is it, he could have been amazing but has been jobed out so much and in meaningless fueds it not funny. Bray should have destroyed Taker at mania to become the new face of fear but oh wait he didn't and the year before that he lost to Cena and the year after he didn't take the pin but his group was brat in seconds by a hollywood actor ( the rock). All I'm saying is Ziggler has consistently put on amazing matches, and yes AJ styles is one of the greatest for all time and will get the belt eventually and Bray wyatt could be amazing after a major revamp, but let's give Ziggler some credit for the amazing talent that he is.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2016 6:53:45 GMT -5
Ziggler winning was a shock. I like it. No one expected him to win and now it looks like he'll booked a lot better. I've not cared for Ziggler for ages but I don't mind him getting the title match. Also anyone saying Ambrose vs Ziggler will be a DUD is clueless. I have no doubts that it'll be an excellent match. Some people might not care a lot about it but it will be an excellent match. I didn't say it will be a dud. I said it's a Mid Card match at best - completely different.
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Post by The American Daydream on Jul 27, 2016 7:03:13 GMT -5
"Dolph Ziggler shouldnt be in that spot" Looool and who the are you to make that decision anyways? LOL Nooobooody that's anymore relevant than people claim Ziggler to be these days. Great job by WWE finally pulling the trigger on DZ. Phenomenal sell by AJ and can't wait to see what Shelton Benjamin has to bring to the table these days. He was always a great talent, hopefully he's not too rusty.
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Post by Sizzle on Jul 27, 2016 7:04:26 GMT -5
The way I see it is that they should have had someone who has previously contended for the WWEWHC recently win the title (Styles), or someone who was already a built main event guy, I.e John Cena. But the problem with this is they're already in a feud that needs a match at Summerslam, and the only other guys in the match are all not built up yet or on a winning level, except for Bray Wyatt.
What bothers me about Ziggler's win is that he was having pre show matches with Corbin or whoever else he was facing, so it just seems like he should still be there. Now if this was after a showing like at Surfivor Series '14, and he got built back up to upper card status it would be more believable as a main event.
The only matches I see being true main event matches are Ambrose vs. Styles and Ambrose vs. Cena, and I can kind of see Wyatt being one because he had a big feud with Reigns last year which I feel made him a big player.
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Post by tiny04 on Jul 27, 2016 7:23:29 GMT -5
Ziggler winning was a shock. I like it. No one expected him to win and now it looks like he'll booked a lot better. I've not cared for Ziggler for ages but I don't mind him getting the title match. Also anyone saying Ambrose vs Ziggler will be a DUD is clueless. I have no doubts that it'll be an excellent match. Some people might not care a lot about it but it will be an excellent match. I didn't say it will be a dud. I said it's a Mid Card match at best - completely different. I seen others call it a dud.
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Post by tiny04 on Jul 27, 2016 7:24:59 GMT -5
Personally I like the fact that they went with something unexpected and are booking Ziggler better. How dare they try and reinvigorate his career.
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Post by cordless2016 on Jul 27, 2016 7:32:08 GMT -5
Put Cesaro or Zayne on SD and I feel the roster will be better. They're just missing that upper mid-card face who's looking to break the glass ceiling (Ziggler doesn't fit this as he has been with the company for 10+ years and is a 2x world champ). I feel there are not enough established faces to feud with AJ, Bray, Miz, and Corbin.
Or just push Ryder as he's still over with the mass crowds. Push him towards the IC Title and let him get his revenge on the Miz.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2016 7:45:52 GMT -5
Put Cesaro or Zayne on SD and I feel the roster will be better. They're just missing that upper mid-card face who's looking to break the glass ceiling (Ziggler doesn't fit this as he has been with the company for 10+ years and is a 2x world champ). I feel there are not enough established faces to feud with AJ, Bray, Miz, and Corbin. Or just push Ryder as he's still over with the mass crowds. Push him towards the IC Title and let him get his revenge on the Miz. I agree about Ryder - but hey, WWE want to put him with that talentless sack of crap, Rawley, instead.
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Post by tarver89 on Jul 27, 2016 8:04:31 GMT -5
"Dolph Ziggler shouldnt be in that spot" Looool and who the are you to make that decision anyways? LOL Nooobooody that's anymore relevant than people claim Ziggler to be these days. Great job by WWE finally pulling the trigger on DZ. Phenomenal sell by AJ and can't wait to see what Shelton Benjamin has to bring to the table these days. He was always a great talent, hopefully he's not too rusty. So, anybody could say the same "who the are you to make that decision" that Ziggler is the top star to put against Ambrose. The first title defense for Ambrose after the roster split at Summerslam (which is supposed to be the 2nd important ppv of the year) is against a midcarder (which i really like, don't get me wrong) who desperately needs to be rebuilt after years of terrible booking? Again, i really like Ziggler but we all saw what he's been through all those years: terrible storylines, pointless match losses and treated like a lowcarder. The same would have been with Cesaro on RAW or with another midcarder which should deserve A LOT more but they really need a good booking for 3-4 months actually.
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Post by Infinite on Jul 27, 2016 8:17:05 GMT -5
So I think Raw won't always be as good as it was this week, and SD wont be as bad as it was this week. The roster looked particularly thin with almost all the important people tied up in the main event, and I think Shelton and American Alpha are going to be very valuable to the roster going forward. I think Smackdown is also going to be used to kinda salvage some of the guys they've ed up with in the past, which means it might be a while before we really buy guys like Ziggler and Wyatt as main eventers, but surely we have to commend the effort. Or, you know, they just let this be the ultimate B show.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jul 27, 2016 9:24:26 GMT -5
Personally I like the fact that they went with something unexpected and are booking Ziggler better. How dare they try and reinvigorate his career. I'm fine if they want to try, this is just an odd way to do it. He did nothing all year, lost a feud to Baron Corbin and then, from out of nowhere, gets a title shot at the 2nd biggest show of the year. There should have been some actual attempts to build him back up, leading to a title shot. Instead, it just looks like a completely random joke of a match.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2016 9:33:33 GMT -5
Heath Slater completely stole the show IMO. Fantastic promo.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Jul 27, 2016 9:35:57 GMT -5
this company put Triple H vs. The Great Khali as a WWE Championship match at Summerslam before
at least Ambrose vs. Ziggler will be entertaining
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2016 9:39:38 GMT -5
There needs to be some trades, the upper mid card on smackdown doesn't exist. It's just low mid card guys totally out of their depth right now. In time this may change but it's going to be a struggle.
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