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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jul 27, 2016 9:40:06 GMT -5
this company put Triple H vs. The Great Khali as a WWE Championship match at Summerslam before at least Ambrose vs. Ziggler will be entertaining
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Post by J12 on Jul 27, 2016 10:36:39 GMT -5
A few comments I have to make..... 1. I felt SmackDown was better than RAW this week because a battle royal always has me intrested for some reason, they introduced all the women, Orton vs mix wasn't to long to a point of it being boring, Shelton made mark out along with rhyno, and the main event was a great way to establish sd. 2. I felt RAW was relying on Finn balor way too much. Why does Seth get the automatic push to the title? The 4 ways and women's title match were great nonetheless. 3. Why does battleground get 5 weeks of build and summer slam only 4. Let that sink in wwe has 3 weeks of programming to build a star studded card. 4. No news on sd getting new titles as mentioned by wwe. 5. Finally is there not a way wwe could have reached an agreement with USA to split the 3rd hour of raw with smackdown so both shows could be equal?Networks are not really keen on the idea of splitting up hours unless they have a full block of 30 minute shows that conclude at the top of the hour. By and large, television works in 60 minute blocks during primetime. If you go to 10:30, you lose the top of the hour channel flippers too.
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Post by r44gz96 on Jul 27, 2016 12:17:03 GMT -5
Heath Slater completely stole the show IMO. Fantastic promo. A feud between Rhyno and Heath Slater is gonna be good. Slater constantly out running his mouth and Rhyno just goreing him every time to lead up to a match would be awesome
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Post by P@ul on Jul 27, 2016 12:49:06 GMT -5
I watched for American Alpha, who never wrestled. You had one job to do Smackdown.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2016 13:39:06 GMT -5
I watched for American Alpha, who never wrestled. You had one job to do Smackdown. next week brotha
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Post by tiny04 on Jul 27, 2016 13:39:16 GMT -5
Smackdown needs Tag titles and a women's title. I was against more titles but now I'm all for it.
They have 6 women and I believe they'll get Nikki and possibly Emma with Bayley going to Raw. 6-8 women is enough for a new title.
Same with the tag team division. Currently have 6 teams I think. I'd say have Revival drop the straps in Brooklyn and get them up on Smackdown.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2016 13:39:59 GMT -5
Heath Slater completely stole the show IMO. Fantastic promo. A feud between Rhyno and Heath Slater is gonna be good. Slater constantly out running his mouth and Rhyno just goreing him every time to lead up to a match would be awesome Summeslam it is then. I'm all for it but I'm sure it's just Rhyno goring someone for the helluvit
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Post by Midnight on Jul 27, 2016 14:42:13 GMT -5
I didn't like the choice to have AJ being pinned. Ziggler hasn't the status at all to challenge Ambrose for the title. I would have preferred Wyatt as n.1 contender. Dolph needs to be rebuilt after all those years jobbing to everyone and not having a major feud. Not a good choice in my opinion. Exactly what I was thinking. Look - I'm going to get hated on for this - but Ziggler vs Ambrose screams MID CARD. I totally agree.
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Post by honeybear 619 on Jul 27, 2016 15:35:43 GMT -5
Anyone think smackdown's camera angles were moving around to much and are too zoomed in. It started to annoy me especially when John Cena was doing the AA, they switched camera angles around 5 times.
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Post by tarver89 on Jul 27, 2016 15:42:52 GMT -5
Yeah Slater actually looked badass when he entered the ring and punched the jobber in the face, i loved it. He cut a fantastic promo in the ring, even tho when he screams i can't take him too seriously. I really hope they would have something planned for him because he deserves to be a solid midcarder and not just the buffoon of the company.
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Post by marino13 on Jul 27, 2016 15:45:46 GMT -5
I was thinking about this today, to all those that think WWE is purposely trying to make RAW look better...
What would be the benefit? Why would Vince wanna make SD look inferior? WWE owns both. USA pays for both. So there is nothing gained from it. That would be like the NFL trying to make the NFC look stronger than the AFC. It's illogical thinking.
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Post by honeybear 619 on Jul 27, 2016 15:51:25 GMT -5
I thought the camera angles were moving around too much and were far too zoomed in. When Cena did the AA, they switched camera angles around 4 times and the more I noticed it the more it annoyed me.
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Post by The American Daydream on Jul 27, 2016 15:52:18 GMT -5
"Dolph Ziggler shouldnt be in that spot" Looool and who the are you to make that decision anyways? LOL Nooobooody that's anymore relevant than people claim Ziggler to be these days. Great job by WWE finally pulling the trigger on DZ. Phenomenal sell by AJ and can't wait to see what Shelton Benjamin has to bring to the table these days. He was always a great talent, hopefully he's not too rusty. So, anybody could say the same "who the are you to make that decision" that Ziggler is the top star to put against Ambrose. The first title defense for Ambrose after the roster split at Summerslam (which is supposed to be the 2nd important ppv of the year) is against a midcarder (which i really like, don't get me wrong) who desperately needs to be rebuilt after years of terrible booking? Again, i really like Ziggler but we all saw what he's been through all those years: terrible storylines, pointless match losses and treated like a lowcarder. The same would have been with Cesaro on RAW or with another midcarder which should deserve A LOT more but they really need a good booking for 3-4 months actually. Literally made no sense. He's in the position already so I dont have to make any decision. Plus I'm in no position to make a decision like that considering I don't do booking for WWE lol. The people on here talking about what another grown man doesnt deserve as if they somehow are in charge of him or have have ever put in half the work that he does is hilarious.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2016 15:59:30 GMT -5
I was thinking about this today, to all those that think WWE is purposely trying to make RAW look better... What would be the benefit? Why would Vince wanna make SD look inferior? WWE owns both. USA pays for both. So there is nothing gained from it. That would be like the NFL trying to make the NFC look stronger than the AFC. It's illogical thinking. The only benefit is the week of the draft. Kinda like the All Star game in the MLB between NL and AL like what does it do besides gain publicity for a week.
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Jul 27, 2016 16:00:57 GMT -5
I was thinking about this today, to all those that think WWE is purposely trying to make RAW look better... What would be the benefit? Why would Vince wanna make SD look inferior? WWE owns both. USA pays for both. So there is nothing gained from it. That would be like the NFL trying to make the NFC look stronger than the AFC. It's illogical thinking. I think they were trying to keep the perception of Raw being THE SHOW and ended up crippling SD in the process by accident. Although I would've used SD as a way to let guys like Neville shine on a less crowded roster.
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Post by J12 on Jul 27, 2016 16:04:49 GMT -5
I was thinking about this today, to all those that think WWE is purposely trying to make RAW look better... What would be the benefit? Why would Vince wanna make SD look inferior? WWE owns both. USA pays for both. So there is nothing gained from it. That would be like the NFL trying to make the NFC look stronger than the AFC. It's illogical thinking. I don't think Vince McMahon sits down nightly and thinks of ways to sabotage Smackdown, but I think it is ingrained in his (and his inner circle's) mind(s) that Raw is the company's top asset and everything else is secondary, in the same way that they're so adamant about preaching "sports entertainment" instead of pro wrestling. Neither quirk makes a whole lot of sense, but it's the way that it is. It seems less to me about purposely making Smackdown weak and more about overcompensating for Raw to ensure it maintains its status as the flagship. It's silly behavior, obviously, especially now that both shows are live and the purpose of the split was to elevate Smackdown to a point that they could create fabricated competition between the brands. Ultimately, though, I don't really think that's going to happen. Remember, the first incarnation of the split came about because WWE had internal metrics that indicated the people watching Raw and the people watching Smackdown were largely different. Vince's theory was that, by putting Stone Cold on one show, and The Rock on the other, he could coax both audiences to watch both shows and thus, raise the ratings across the board. It worked for a very brief period of time, but once the honeymoon phase was over and the two bell-cows were either gone or working part time, Vince got complacent and we saw the split start to fall apart, with Smackdown being raided on a regular basis to ensure Raw's dominance. This time, the reason for the split is dramatically different. It was largely a ratings ploy, and a reactionary measure to USA's desire to bring Smackdown live. I think the fear is that Vince thinks giving Smackdown its own exclusive roster is enough to bring it to within striking distance of whatever figure USA put on it. If that's the case, he won't be shy about plucking talent from that side again. Whether that occurs, of course, remains to be seen. There's also the the internal politicking in the McMahon family to consider. Shane McMahon is the begrudged son who left the business that means absolutely everything to the McMahon family, now he's back in a prominent role and many feel that Vince (and to a lesser degree, Stephanie) feel the need to place in him a position of perceived inferiority as some type of punishment, while demonstrating that Stephanie is the smarter, more capable leader. It's hard to believe how much of WWE's decision making seems to stem from McMahon family dynamics, but, then again, you only need to look at the last few years of television to see how important they perceive themselves to be not only as the true leaders of the company, but as on-screen, aggressively dominant figureheads.
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Post by tarver89 on Jul 27, 2016 16:09:04 GMT -5
So, anybody could say the same "who the are you to make that decision" that Ziggler is the top star to put against Ambrose. The first title defense for Ambrose after the roster split at Summerslam (which is supposed to be the 2nd important ppv of the year) is against a midcarder (which i really like, don't get me wrong) who desperately needs to be rebuilt after years of terrible booking? Again, i really like Ziggler but we all saw what he's been through all those years: terrible storylines, pointless match losses and treated like a lowcarder. The same would have been with Cesaro on RAW or with another midcarder which should deserve A LOT more but they really need a good booking for 3-4 months actually. Literally made no sense. He's in the position already so I dont have to make any decision. Plus I'm in no position to make a decision like that considering I don't do booking for WWE lol. The people on here talking about what another grown man doesnt deserve as if they somehow are in charge of him or have have ever put in half the work that he does is hilarious. So basically since nobody here is a WWE booker or a WWE wrestler we're not allowed to talk and discuss about what happens on Raw and Smackdown? If so, this is the thing that is really hilarious. I thought this was a forum, where users can discuss the WWE's programs.
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Post by Rontaro13 on Jul 27, 2016 16:15:45 GMT -5
I was thinking about this today, to all those that think WWE is purposely trying to make RAW look better... What would be the benefit? Why would Vince wanna make SD look inferior? WWE owns both. USA pays for both. So there is nothing gained from it. That would be like the NFL trying to make the NFC look stronger than the AFC. It's illogical thinking. And considering that both shows have different writing teams that are competing, it wouldn't make sense for one team to write a bad show so the other can look good.
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Post by J12 on Jul 27, 2016 16:20:44 GMT -5
So, anybody could say the same "who the are you to make that decision" that Ziggler is the top star to put against Ambrose. The first title defense for Ambrose after the roster split at Summerslam (which is supposed to be the 2nd important ppv of the year) is against a midcarder (which i really like, don't get me wrong) who desperately needs to be rebuilt after years of terrible booking? Again, i really like Ziggler but we all saw what he's been through all those years: terrible storylines, pointless match losses and treated like a lowcarder. The same would have been with Cesaro on RAW or with another midcarder which should deserve A LOT more but they really need a good booking for 3-4 months actually. Literally made no sense. He's in the position already so I dont have to make any decision. Plus I'm in no position to make a decision like that considering I don't do booking for WWE lol. The people on here talking about what another grown man doesnt deserve as if they somehow are in charge of him or have have ever put in half the work that he does is hilarious. I don't understand this logic at all. The argument people are making has nothing to do with Dolph Ziggler as a person, but rather, the character he portrays. Ziggler works his ass off, has been a dedicated (for the most part) company guy, and was, at one time, one of the most popular guys on the roster. He deserves a big break. The problem is, his character doesn't. His character is a loser. He's been a loser for two years. WWE has conditioned the fans to believe that Ziggler is the guy who always puts on competitive matches but comes up short. WWE has taught the fans that Ziggler is the guy who is all about "stealing the show", not about winning matches. This is a guy who was losing Pay-Per-View pre-show matches as recently as two months ago. Dolph Ziggler, the character, hasn't been relevant since November of 2014. It's a damn shame, because he absolutely deserves better, and I bet a lot of people would feel a lot differently about this match had he been treated like he was worth a damn for even a month leading up to this win. Instead, in typical WWE fashion, a title shot is supposed to wash away all the abhorrent booking of the past two years. It doesn't work that way. And that's why people are saying what they're saying.
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Post by DeadlyGame on Jul 27, 2016 16:22:24 GMT -5
I was thinking about this today, to all those that think WWE is purposely trying to make RAW look better... What would be the benefit? Why would Vince wanna make SD look inferior? WWE owns both. USA pays for both. So there is nothing gained from it. That would be like the NFL trying to make the NFC look stronger than the AFC. It's illogical thinking. Since when had WWE always done the logical thing? Anyway, I did not see the Ziggler win coming.
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