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Post by Tim of thee on Jan 30, 2017 12:12:01 GMT -5
I rather enjoyed it. The Cena/Styles match stole the show again. Is it possible to be match of the year this early?
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Jan 30, 2017 12:19:20 GMT -5
I rather enjoyed it. The Cena/Styles match stole the show again. Is it possible to be match of the year this early? It didn't top Omega/Okada but it's definitely my number two for the year so far.
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Post by tg11 on Jan 30, 2017 12:19:55 GMT -5
When does Balor return and how does he play into mania? I would have Goldberg/Owens at Fastlane and Brock costs Goldberg the title. Jericho wins a tournament or "beat the clock" type of #1 Contender's qualifier and then Owens is so annoyed that Jericho thinks he is "co-champion," that he attacks Jericho and it sets up the Mania feud. At Mania I would have Jericho beat Owens for the title. During Jericho's celebration, Owens snaps and powerbombs Jericho on the apron three times. The next night on RAW they announce Jericho is out indefinitely with a back injury and the title is vacated. Owens comes out an lays claim, but the lights go out and Balor makes his return in front of the post-Mania crowd and wins the title that night. Eventually Jericho returns to cost Owens the title and sets up a Jericho/Owens final payoff at SummerSlam. See Vince, it isn't hard to book long term and short term, all the while making perfect sense See you have better ideas than WWE Creative how are you not on Creative
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Post by bigshab421 on Jan 30, 2017 12:30:40 GMT -5
Someone mentioned in the early pages of this thread that this Rumble was harder to mess up than it was to create a masterpiece of a show. Well guess what, Vince and Co. figured out a way to top themselves and screw it up. Seriously though you have a star studded Rumble with Goldberg, Lesnar, Taker, Ambrose, Orton, Wyatt, etc.... and you have EIGHT vacant spots that could have been used for legends or NXT guys, and we get the likes of Gallagher, Kalisto, Ellsworth, Crews, Enzo, Reigns, Henry. Thats unforgivable, I wonder if they honestly sit in a meeting room and brainstorm "how to up tonight's show?" When are they going to realize that they are teetering Reigns on career suicide by facing Taker? Neither guy has nothing good to come out of it. If they have Reigns beat Taker and then force Taker to like shake or raise his hand, the backlash will be never be able to be undone and the resentment will grow harder. If Taker wins, it does nothing for his legacy and everyone will bitch that it is just another pointless Taker win.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Jan 30, 2017 12:49:44 GMT -5
Someone mentioned in the early pages of this thread that this Rumble was harder to mess up than it was to create a masterpiece of a show. Well guess what, Vince and Co. figured out a way to top themselves and screw it up. Seriously though you have a star studded Rumble with Goldberg, Lesnar, Taker, Ambrose, Orton, Wyatt, etc.... and you have EIGHT vacant spots that could have been used for legends or NXT guys, and we get the likes of Gallagher, Kalisto, Ellsworth, Crews, Enzo, Reigns, Henry. Thats unforgivable, I wonder if they honestly sit in a meeting room and brainstorm "how to up tonight's show?" When are they going to realize that they are teetering Reigns on career suicide by facing Taker? Neither guy has nothing good to come out of it. If they have Reigns beat Taker and then force Taker to like shake or raise his hand, the backlash will be never be able to be undone and the resentment will grow harder. If Taker wins, it does nothing for his legacy and everyone will bitch that it is just another pointless Taker win. If Reigns fights Taker I think he will be a heel. Last night he was showing heel signs in the rumble so this could be the seeds getting planted.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Jan 30, 2017 12:50:16 GMT -5
I know there is no way they will do this, but this would be YET another perfect opportunity to turn Reigns. Kane was announced, so make it known that Reigns attacked Kane, the original #30, backstage and came out himself instead. Nobody is cheering Reigns over Taker, and it would be a GRAVE mistake to feud Reigns against Strowman in a throwaway for 5 weeks only to have Reigns take down the guy they've built as an unstoppable monster for a year.(They need to stop giving their monsters to guys who don't need the rub. Again, Joe could take down Strowman with the choke.) On Raw, have Reigns say something about being the new big dog in the yard, taking out the phenom, etc... Tease Taker's music and lights out during Reigns' match against Strowman (he will want revenge after all) and cost him the match. On Smackdown have Shane and Bryan irate, have the reveal that Kane was 30, have Kane destroy some jobbers, 'we haven't seen Kane in this mindset for a long time' blah blah blah. Next week on Raw, Undertaker lights out, bell tease, but its Kane. We're off and running. Reigns destroys Kane at EC, takes him out, more fire on Taker/Reigns. Maybe Taker even shows up and chokeslams Reigns, or at least runs him off.
But none of that is going to happen. It looks like Kane's announcement will be forgotten and Strowman will be sacrificed on a throwaway PPV. They may try to rebuild him by having him win the battle royal, but it won't work. As for the logic question 'what about Strowman costing Reigns the title?', why didn't Reigns cause Strowman's elimination then? He wasn't fired up enough to confront him right then and there? 'Bah, it can wait'. That's why you have them face off on Raw, redirect to Taker/Reigns, Strowman gets the win, and go into the Kane throwaway for 5 weeks. Hey, it isn't perfect, but its a helluvalot better than the other options (sacrificing Strowman and having Reigns do terrible promos every week to lights going out and weird smoke effects and Taker only actually appearing at the Raw before Wrestlemania and MAYBE EC.
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Post by tiny04 on Jan 30, 2017 12:56:07 GMT -5
You need to all realise that the only reason why Reigns was in the match was to save Orton from getting booed. It Orton won over the remaining guys fans would've rejected him so eliminating the most hated man in the company made the crowd very happy. 1. Orton wouldn't have been booed for winning. Orton always gets great reactions. 2. He's still technically a heel, so even if he did get booed, who cares?
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Post by Rude Awakening on Jan 30, 2017 13:03:26 GMT -5
My theory of you guys sh*tting on every wwe event no matter what happens may have just been confirmed. That show was incredible even if you disagreed with the ending of the rumble. As for balor and joe, you guys set your expectations so high for them that if they had not lost you guys would lose your sh*t. Joe will debut eventually and apparently Finn isn't ready as even I thought there should've been surprise entrants.
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Post by Rude Awakening on Jan 30, 2017 13:05:12 GMT -5
You need to all realise that the only reason why Reigns was in the match was to save Orton from getting booed. It Orton won over the remaining guys fans would've rejected him so eliminating the most hated man in the company made the crowd very happy. 1. Orton wouldn't have been booed for winning. Orton always gets great reactions. 2. He's still technically a heel, so even if he did get booed, who cares? Orton has been massively cheered ever since he returned at battleground last year. He deserved this accomplishment.
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Post by Terrys Wrestling Figures on Jan 30, 2017 13:06:02 GMT -5
- bitch bitch bitch, let the stories run and see where they go and maybe just maybe you'll enjoy it
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Post by J12 on Jan 30, 2017 13:07:44 GMT -5
My theory of you guys sh*tting on every wwe event no matter what happens may have just been confirmed. That show was incredible even if you disagreed with the ending of the rumble. As for balor and joe, you guys set your expectations so high for them that if they had not lost you guys would lose your sh*t. Joe will debut eventually and apparently Finn isn't ready as even I thought there should've been surprise entrants. This show was not good enough by any stretch of the imagination to be agreed upon as universally positive. There were plenty of reasons to dislike it even if you completely ignore the conclusion of the Rumble.
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Post by Rude Awakening on Jan 30, 2017 13:11:57 GMT -5
My theory of you guys sh*tting on every wwe event no matter what happens may have just been confirmed. That show was incredible even if you disagreed with the ending of the rumble. As for balor and joe, you guys set your expectations so high for them that if they had not lost you guys would lose your sh*t. Joe will debut eventually and apparently Finn isn't ready as even I thought there should've been surprise entrants. This show was not good enough by any stretch of the imagination to be agreed upon as universally positive. There were plenty of reasons to dislike it even if you completely ignore the conclusion of the Rumble. Imo Kickoff Show - Didn't really pay attention as I was excited for the main Card to start and I had dinner Charlotte vs Bayley - Good match, likely leading to mania match Universal title match - Great stipulation to give the match excitement. The match set up future fueds. Cruiserweight match - Neville proved he is king Wwe Title Match - Cena ties Flair in an amazing match Royal Rumble - No surprises, but an odd ball win that changes up the mania landscape. This was a great show
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Post by bigshab421 on Jan 30, 2017 13:12:57 GMT -5
My theory of you guys sh*tting on every wwe event no matter what happens may have just been confirmed. That show was incredible even if you disagreed with the ending of the rumble. As for balor and joe, you guys set your expectations so high for them that if they had not lost you guys would lose your sh*t. Joe will debut eventually and apparently Finn isn't ready as even I thought there should've been surprise entrants. The show really wasn't that good. Cena/AJ was great and KO/Reigns was decent, but the Rumble was a straight up dumpster fire. Those title matches don't make that show incredible.
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Post by Rude Awakening on Jan 30, 2017 13:14:28 GMT -5
My theory of you guys sh*tting on every wwe event no matter what happens may have just been confirmed. That show was incredible even if you disagreed with the ending of the rumble. As for balor and joe, you guys set your expectations so high for them that if they had not lost you guys would lose your sh*t. Joe will debut eventually and apparently Finn isn't ready as even I thought there should've been surprise entrants. The show really wasn't that good. Cena/AJ was great and KO/Reigns was decent, but the Rumble was a straight up dumpster fire. Those title matches don't make that show incredible. would balor and/or joe entering helped instead of reigns?
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Post by J12 on Jan 30, 2017 13:16:50 GMT -5
This show was not good enough by any stretch of the imagination to be agreed upon as universally positive. There were plenty of reasons to dislike it even if you completely ignore the conclusion of the Rumble. Imo Kickoff Show - Didn't really pay attention as I was excited for the main Card to start and I had dinner Charlotte vs Bayley - Good match, likely leading to mania match Universal title match - Great stipulation to give the match excitement. The match set up future fueds. Cruiserweight match - Neville proved he is king Wwe Title Match - Cena ties Flair in an amazing match Royal Rumble - No surprises, but an odd ball win that changes up the mania landscape. This was a great show You have every right to feel that way. But you need to understand that it was a polarizing show, and it's not just a few people complaining. A lot of people disliked it, for varied, and valid reasons. You're attempting to dismiss all of the valid criticisms of the show just because you liked it.
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Post by bigshab421 on Jan 30, 2017 13:27:39 GMT -5
The show really wasn't that good. Cena/AJ was great and KO/Reigns was decent, but the Rumble was a straight up dumpster fire. Those title matches don't make that show incredible. would balor and/or joe entering helped instead of reigns? it wouldn't have made the show itself better but it would have at least been a surprise. The whole match was lame Taker and Goldberg looked like crap, everyone sold the Lesnar house clearing like they got hit by a friggin truck. My problem is with the way they handled the unannounced spots. Was it necessary to give people with an negative chance like Ellsworth, Gallagher, Enzo, Crews, and even Henry spots in the Rumble?
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Post by Nivro™ on Jan 30, 2017 13:30:26 GMT -5
They should have just used the old wrestlemania ring carts
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Jan 30, 2017 13:35:06 GMT -5
You need to all realise that the only reason why Reigns was in the match was to save Orton from getting booed. It Orton won over the remaining guys fans would've rejected him so eliminating the most hated man in the company made the crowd very happy. 1. Orton wouldn't have been booed for winning. Orton always gets great reactions. 2. He's still technically a heel, so even if he did get booed, who cares? Orton is suppose to be undercover in the Wyatt family so technically he's a face. People didn't cheer because Orton won they cheered because Reigns didn't.
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Post by J12 on Jan 30, 2017 13:42:31 GMT -5
Roman Reigns has now been in the final two of the Rumble for four years in a row. At least he only won once, I guess?
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Post by SmithyPlayz on Jan 30, 2017 14:01:42 GMT -5
The internet keeps booking these dream moments and fuel us with rumors and when that doesn't happen it's WWE's fault. There was barely any chance of us getting Joe, Nakamura, Angle, Hardy or Finn just because some site said it doesn't mean it's going to happen and should always take it with a pinch of salt.
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