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Post by TheChamp420 on Feb 14, 2017 17:51:44 GMT -5
I feel like people aren't gonna want Orton to win at mania, I'd prefer Bray over Orton
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Post by The Constable on Feb 14, 2017 20:51:13 GMT -5
In terms of storyline I think Luke Harper should be added to make it a Triple Threat
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Post by bababooey on Feb 14, 2017 21:46:36 GMT -5
Now that Bray has officially won the title and it's no longer just rumor, Randy winning the Rumble is a good move. Orton is still a big draw and highly credible. From a business aspect, the match already has marketability and Randy takes pressure off Bray. This will be called a main event but it won't be THE REAL main event. I think that will be Brock vs Goldberg or Reigns vs Undertaker unfortunately. But I expect Orton to put Bray over in this match and help legitimize Bray as champion.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Feb 15, 2017 6:49:05 GMT -5
Now that Bray has officially won the title and it's no longer just rumor, Randy winning the Rumble is a good move. Orton is still a big draw and highly credible. From a business aspect, the match already has marketability and Randy takes pressure off Bray. This will be called a main event but it won't be THE REAL main event. I think that will be Brock vs Goldberg or Reigns vs Undertaker unfortunately. But I expect Orton to put Bray over in this match and help legitimize Bray as champion. I honestly can't see them closing Mania with a short match and Taker and Reigns would make no sense to main event so Bray vs Orton would be the most logical.
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Post by Wardyz on Feb 15, 2017 7:14:13 GMT -5
I feel like people aren't gonna want Orton to win at mania, I'd prefer Bray over Orton My thoughts exactly Thought they could of had Bray winning the Rumble and Orton winning at Chamber But I am quite interested of where they are going with it now after Smackdown
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Feb 15, 2017 8:01:26 GMT -5
Luke Harper wins the battle royal, Orton is like, Hmm I still dont like this guy Ima continue to fight him, uses his Royal Rumble win to get into the match at WM in purpose of fighting Harper nothing to do with Bray or winning the title, ends up winning some how, then Bray vs Orton for Extreme rules where hopefully Bray picks up the win. Bray doesnt get hurt cause he's not pinned, Orton doesnt get hurt cause he's hadn't beaten Bray leading up to him joining, and Harper wins cause he main events Wrestlemania.
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Post by revolution on Feb 15, 2017 8:04:45 GMT -5
Its been so well done, even if Orton wins the apparent triple threat at mania im totally okay with it, still so good
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Feb 15, 2017 8:25:52 GMT -5
I was thinking about this last night. I feel like a lot of people are going to turn on Orton come Mania.
Bray is red hot right now.
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Post by xtremebadass on Feb 15, 2017 9:36:25 GMT -5
I find it incredibly stupid. Honestly.
I would have thought it was a little cooler if Randy really bought into the whole Wyatt Family changing his look and whatnot, but instead he just remained Randy and stuck out like a sore thumb. You were waiting for him to turn on the Wyatts 2 weeks after joining them because he was so out of place. I cannot believe they've managed to string this dumb storyline along this entire time.
I really need someone to explain to me why a midcard feud such as this gets the Royal Rumble winner AND WWE title attached to it at WrestleMania especially when the best sports entertainer in the world and most popular SD superstar AJ Styles who carried the brand for the past 8 months is mercilessly demoted from main event status. Makes zero sense to me unless they are just doing all this to re-elevate Randy because they know Cena will be gone soon.
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Post by Yayo on Feb 15, 2017 11:29:34 GMT -5
I feel like people aren't gonna want Orton to win at mania, I'd prefer Bray over Orton I don't even wanna see Orton in the title picture at this point, I certainly don't wanna see him derail Wyatt's momentum already... although it would allign with Wyatt's career of bad booking
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Post by ClashOfStyles on Feb 15, 2017 12:07:40 GMT -5
They should have spent more time building Wyatt up imo. Personally, I would've had AJ retain at the Royal Rumble, then Styles/Orton in the main event of 'Mania and Wyatt/Harper, with Wyatt going over. Bray Wyatt vs Randy Orton has no build, whereas Luke Harper vs Bray Wyatt has been going for months. A superstar should have a ton of momentum going when winning the world title. For example, last year AJ Styles was white hot, had just come off of the biggest win of his career at SummerSlam. There was nothing else that was sensible to do but to have him win the title. Bray Wyatt still had a lot of momentum to build up, so the chamber win kind of felt forced. I would've waited until MITB or Summerslam to have his big moment, with him going on a PPV win streak over credible opponents leading up to that title win. Bray Wyatt and Randy Orton's first match was terrible. Extremely slow with little action or energy. It certainly does not deserve WrestleMania, especially not in a WWE Title match or main event of the biggest wrestling show of the year. Styles/Orton is a dream match, and it would be guaranteed to live up to the hype and deliver 100% on a WWE Title or main event stage. Going into 'Mania, both World Title matches look to be lackluster at best, and with the rest of the rumored matches, WrestleMania looks to be a sh*tty show this year. As Chicago Cubs fans used to say, there's always next year.
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Post by punksnotdead on Feb 15, 2017 13:14:55 GMT -5
I was thinking about this last night. I feel like a lot of people are going to turn on Orton come Mania. Bray is red hot right now. They need to have Orton be the heel without trying to fully turn Bray as a babyface. Let Bray keep being Bray, exactly as he's been, and just let Orton be the bad guy. It's a weird dynamic but the Mania crowd isn't going to cheer Randy Orton if he enters that match like a hero babyface. If we get Bray vs Orton straight up, people aren't going to want to see Randy win with Bray just winning the title and being a fresh face for that belt. I honestly just think they needed to take more time with this story. The tag title win was such a good moment for the Wyatts. Their loss to AA felt so premature, and even now, a separation of Orton and Bray would seem premature because they haven't been together long enough for us to truly believe that Orton is a member of the stable and not just killing time between his next big singles run. I like what they did last night. I'm interested to see where it goes. We're in this strange place where I genuinely feel like the title could still go on somebody else prior to Mania. I don't think that's the most likely situation but I'm not ruling it out either. Harper and where he fits into all of this come Mania is kind of a total wild card right now. At this point I wouldn't even be upset about AJ vs Cena vs Orton vs Harper vs Bray if they went that route.
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Post by Truth HuRts on Feb 15, 2017 14:04:16 GMT -5
I'm the only one that wants Orton to win the title 😕
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Post by tiny04 on Feb 15, 2017 14:09:40 GMT -5
Came across this promo from September on Reddit. Excellently foreshadows the whole Orton/Wyatt story.
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Post by Kanenite on Feb 17, 2017 12:13:52 GMT -5
They should have spent more time building Wyatt up imo. Personally, I would've had AJ retain at the Royal Rumble, then Styles/Orton in the main event of 'Mania and Wyatt/Harper, with Wyatt going over. Bray Wyatt vs Randy Orton has no build, whereas Luke Harper vs Bray Wyatt has been going for months. A superstar should have a ton of momentum going when winning the world title. For example, last year AJ Styles was white hot, had just come off of the biggest win of his career at SummerSlam. There was nothing else that was sensible to do but to have him win the title. Bray Wyatt still had a lot of momentum to build up, so the chamber win kind of felt forced. I would've waited until MITB or Summerslam to have his big moment, with him going on a PPV win streak over credible opponents leading up to that title win. Bray Wyatt and Randy Orton's first match was terrible. Extremely slow with little action or energy. It certainly does not deserve WrestleMania, especially not in a WWE Title match or main event of the biggest wrestling show of the year. Styles/Orton is a dream match, and it would be guaranteed to live up to the hype and deliver 100% on a WWE Title or main event stage. Going into 'Mania, both World Title matches look to be lackluster at best, and with the rest of the rumored matches, WrestleMania looks to be a sh*tty show this year. As Chicago Cubs fans used to say, there's always next year. Exactly how I feel. Orton/AJ would of been so sick.
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Post by ClashOfStyles on Feb 17, 2017 12:32:33 GMT -5
They should have spent more time building Wyatt up imo. Personally, I would've had AJ retain at the Royal Rumble, then Styles/Orton in the main event of 'Mania and Wyatt/Harper, with Wyatt going over. Bray Wyatt vs Randy Orton has no build, whereas Luke Harper vs Bray Wyatt has been going for months. A superstar should have a ton of momentum going when winning the world title. For example, last year AJ Styles was white hot, had just come off of the biggest win of his career at SummerSlam. There was nothing else that was sensible to do but to have him win the title. Bray Wyatt still had a lot of momentum to build up, so the chamber win kind of felt forced. I would've waited until MITB or Summerslam to have his big moment, with him going on a PPV win streak over credible opponents leading up to that title win. Bray Wyatt and Randy Orton's first match was terrible. Extremely slow with little action or energy. It certainly does not deserve WrestleMania, especially not in a WWE Title match or main event of the biggest wrestling show of the year. Styles/Orton is a dream match, and it would be guaranteed to live up to the hype and deliver 100% on a WWE Title or main event stage. Going into 'Mania, both World Title matches look to be lackluster at best, and with the rest of the rumored matches, WrestleMania looks to be a sh*tty show this year. As Chicago Cubs fans used to say, there's always next year. Exactly how I feel. Orton/AJ would of been so sick. Just imagine the Phemomenal Forearm/RKO counter... It would definitely be a great match.
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Post by ClashOfStyles on Feb 17, 2017 12:34:05 GMT -5
I'm the only one that wants Orton to win the title 😕 You're not the only one. The words "The WWE Champion Bray Wyatt" make me want to throw up.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 15:37:43 GMT -5
*feud*
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Post by The-Rock on Feb 17, 2017 17:39:01 GMT -5
It's interesting but could have benefitted from a few tweaks: 1) Wyatt should have been champion sooner, thus allowing Bray to seem more like a force to be reckoned with. Further this would have allowed Orton to aid Wyatt in retaining the title a few times 2) (I don't really watch so I can't comment how far off I am with this next one) Orton should have been sort of hypnotized while a member of the Wyatt family, thereby making it seem that Orton is truly under Bray's spell. 3) Eventually Orton would "snap" out of his trance and proclaim that it was all part of his master plan to become champion or something (this goes back to point 1 that if Orton helped Bray become champion originally, helped Bray retain, or Bray was champion before Orton joined the Wyatt family...much better story).
Beside these points, it's a half decent feud and embodies what Wrestlemania is supposed to be about...the culmination of the past year's storylines. Orton is kind of on the downside of his career, so there's not much to be accomplished here from him winning. Nevertheless, if he wins and then feuds with other guys it's a decent outcome. I think Bray winning the belt, even if just for a very short run, is exactly what he's needed to legitimize himself. It reminds me of Edge in 2006, after that first title victory (no matter how short) the guy is suddenly a perennial contender and actual main eventer.
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Post by The-Rock on Feb 17, 2017 17:46:36 GMT -5
It's been a good feud, with everything having fallen perfectly into place for Orton to destroy the Wyatt family from within, but it really isn't big enough to be a WrestleMania main event. It's a very solid midcard WrestleMania match, but main event? No way. WrestleMania main events need to have a certain amount of star power to them. I don't feel that Bray Wyatt is a big enough star to be main eventing WrestleMania. At some point in the future? Yes. Now? No way. That's why Goldberg vs. Lesnar will be the main event. Despite what people on here say, Golderg vs. Lesnar for the title is the most interesting main event they've had in years. I'm a pretty casual fan these days (after being a hardcore fan from 98-2014) and I've always looked at things through the lens of "How will this match look in 'The Very Best of Wrestlemania' video"...Goldberg vs. Lesnar passes that test with flying colors. People get all upset about part timers winning the title, but they fail to realize that this is a scripted show...it's ok to suspend disbelief. The part timers they've used the last few years (the rock, lesnar, sting, Goldberg) have really reinvigorated the product. The instances in which the old guys fought new guys (NAO vs. Shield, Sting vs. Rollins, Dudleys vs. New Day, HHH vs. Bryan) were incredibly entertaining to see.
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