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Post by Bandalero on Apr 25, 2017 12:32:47 GMT -5
Well ill say this. Children dont overanalyze the show and they all seemed to have a good time. There were we want Roman chants. Sometimes you guys look too hard into or expect too much. Hmm that doesn't seem like a fair statement. Bayley sells herself as the ultimate WWE fan girl, having her dad drive her to arenas to watch matches, taking photos with her favourites growing up, working her way through wrestling school etc. She's a decent worker, no doubt about it, you can tell she puts the hours in physically. But every serious fan (which she is) knows that ring work is half the battle, the other half is having the ability to draw. For someone who is so in love with the business and has been doing this for so many years, why hasn't she shown the slightest improvement with her promos? AJ, Lita, Trish, Mickie James all figured it out. James could teach all these young girls how to cut a proper promo. I can't count the number of times Charlotte, Sasha, and Bayley cut each other off and talk over each other, it looks like a backyard fed.
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Apr 25, 2017 12:57:24 GMT -5
Bandalero i was just talking about peoples reactions to the show in general. I think it would be easier to hate having to sit in an arena for 3 hrs with no commentary and awkward commercial breaks, but I had a good time and eveyone atound me did as well. The internet is great, but when theres so much negativity it gives me cancer. Like people can have opinions, but i know that most people dont have strong opinions on wrestling until the internet tells them too. We have too much insider knowledge that seems to hurt enjoyment of the product. "We expected that" or "theyre only pushing so and so because of" I just think its funny people say watching RAW at home, on their couch, in comfort, is a chore. Yet you cram yourself into a tiny stadium seat, sit for 3 hours, and are content.
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Post by A-Rob on Apr 25, 2017 13:39:59 GMT -5
Wow Raw sucked last night. it's official i guess we hit the dead period until the Summerslam build.
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Post by Sizzle on Apr 25, 2017 14:06:43 GMT -5
Bandalero i was just talking about peoples reactions to the show in general. I think it would be easier to hate having to sit in an arena for 3 hrs with no commentary and awkward commercial breaks, but I had a good time and eveyone atound me did as well. The internet is great, but when theres so much negativity it gives me cancer. Like people can have opinions, but i know that most people dont have strong opinions on wrestling until the internet tells them too. We have too much insider knowledge that seems to hurt enjoyment of the product. "We expected that" or "theyre only pushing so and so because of" I just think its funny people say watching RAW at home, on their couch, in comfort, is a chore. Yet you cram yourself into a tiny stadium seat, sit for 3 hours, and are content. This post, five stars.
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Post by tiny04 on Apr 25, 2017 14:19:19 GMT -5
As a massive fan of Bayley, even I will admit that her promos since coming up to the main roster have been poor. I don't place the blame fully on her though. They literally give her the same promo every single week.
Bayley is not on Alexa's level on the mic, but she is good enough with the correct material. Some of her promos in NXT, especially the contract signing promo against Asuka, were excellent.
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Post by blissfan4life on Apr 25, 2017 15:18:55 GMT -5
Well the fact that she's been around for a few years and you don't even properly spell her name shows you don't care. No I don't care about her because she's not impressive. I know there's a long thread somewhere dedicated to her bubble butt. Seriously? Is that what defines her to you guys? It's actually a travesty that her mic work hasn't improved since she's been around a few years. She was NXT Women's champion on multiple occasions and she couldn't learn how to cut a promo? Sorry if this sounds harsh but not everyone loves her man, she's mediocre. She's no diferrent than Kalisto - great workers who suck at their cliched squeaky-clean babyface underdog gimmick. You're entitled to how you feel but Bayley is far from mediocre. Its the RAW Booking she's suffering from so I won't put the blame on Bayley herself for having awkward promos and such.
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Post by cordless2016 on Apr 25, 2017 17:55:38 GMT -5
Bayley is god awful on the mic. With how long she's been around there's no reason as to why she should be as bad as she is. And sure she had some great matches with Sasha in NXT, but she hasn't had one above average match since coming up to Raw. I'd put Bliss above her currently as her mic skills are far better. She's no worse than the Bellas who have been around twice as long. I'd put her above Bri for sure, but Nikki is far better on the mic than Bayley.
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Post by Bandalero on Apr 25, 2017 17:55:49 GMT -5
So when do we start not putting 100% of the blame on booking and just a tiny bit on the competency of the wrestler herself?
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Apr 25, 2017 18:17:52 GMT -5
No I don't care about her because she's not impressive. I know there's a long thread somewhere dedicated to her bubble butt. Seriously? Is that what defines her to you guys? It's actually a travesty that her mic work hasn't improved since she's been around a few years. She was NXT Women's champion on multiple occasions and she couldn't learn how to cut a promo? Sorry if this sounds harsh but not everyone loves her man, she's mediocre. She's no diferrent than Kalisto - great workers who suck at their cliched squeaky-clean babyface underdog gimmick. You're entitled to how you feel but Bayley is far from mediocre. Its the RAW Booking she's suffering from so I won't put the blame on Bayley herself for having awkward promos and such. As big of a Bayley fan that i am, i would agree that Bayley was never great on the mic. Shes had her moments in NXT, but she has not impressed much on the main roster. I put half, maybe more than half of the blame on the booking, but i gotta put blame on Bayley as well. She does come off too awkward on the mic. I will agree with the post above where he said maybe its time to also put a little of the blame on the wrestlers themselves. I mean if Sandow could turn being Mizs sidekick into gold and Cody Rhodes given everything but two gimmicks and turned it to gold, theres no reason why the wrestlers cant do the same
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Post by blissfan4life on Apr 25, 2017 18:30:42 GMT -5
So when do we start not putting 100% of the blame on booking and just a tiny bit on the competency of the wrestler herself? Scripted Promos just don't mesh well for Bayley. I however stand by my belief that The booking has a lot more blame.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 19:17:21 GMT -5
She's no worse than the Bellas who have been around twice as long. I'd put her above Bri for sure, but Nikki is far better on the mic than Bayley. Opinions vary
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