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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 21:43:02 GMT -5
100% agreed to the OP. The reason I left is because I didn't have enough current roster people. -Fernando You're back? Wonderful. don't worry, I won't be here often
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hbkowns
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Post by hbkowns on Jun 2, 2017 0:42:26 GMT -5
I can't be wrong for my opinion. Flashbacks are the only thing that shelfwarms 90% of the time. You can't be wrong for your opinion, but you can be wrong when presenting your opinion as fact. The truth is that when we're talking about FLASHBACKS...not DM, Legends, or HOF...we're just talking about Flashbacks that are taking up space in the main elite line itself...they just don't pegwarm in the majority of places. JYD and Sid were by far the worst offenders, and those were because of screwed up case packs and ordering. If Flashbacks are warming near you, feel free to send me a Tatanka, because I can't find him for the life of me. I should have been more specific. They shelfwarm in my Chicago-land area.
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Post by RybackV1 on Jun 2, 2017 7:10:59 GMT -5
The fact that my Target probably won't be ordering new Elites anytime soon because there are 7 Tugboats that will not move, annoys me. They need to be more careful with who they make. Warlord and Beserker should be .5 per case. Sounds like someone returned those to your store. Nah man, I watched as we got several cases of E44 back to back (I work there) Big E and Macho sat for a little bit but always sold. Tugboats are still sitting. It's a shame and we probably won't get new elites anytime soon because of it
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Post by madness86 on Jun 2, 2017 8:31:56 GMT -5
Sounds like someone returned those to your store. Nah man, I watched as we got several cases of E44 back to back (I work there) Big E and Macho sat for a little bit but always sold. Tugboats are still sitting. It's a shame and we probably won't get new elites anytime soon because of it Elite 44 flooded a lot of places and most didn't even receive the 44.5 set
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 10:40:57 GMT -5
Nah man, I watched as we got several cases of E44 back to back (I work there) Big E and Macho sat for a little bit but always sold. Tugboats are still sitting. It's a shame and we probably won't get new elites anytime soon because of it Elite 44 flooded a lot of places and most didn't even receive the 44.5 set I can definitely vouch for that. I still see Big E, Tugboat and Macho at most stores who still have 44.
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Post by PaqMan on Jun 2, 2017 11:15:08 GMT -5
This discussion pops up every year. With more elite lines this year (HOF, Then Now Forever, NXT, Network Exclusive), I find it less annoying than when they were just in the main elites. I feel like I'm getting more attire choices for the popular guys and more mid carders and jobbers in general.
I'd still prefer a flashback every other wave just to make room for more current roster guys, but they've been doing okay lately.
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Post by fzmadness on Jun 2, 2017 14:45:14 GMT -5
If they stopped making FBs I probably would be done. I would like an extra FB line but I think oversaturation is the main reason why they do it. Also, it is expensive for Mattel to make a new mold for a one off figure so it is not profitable for them to keep doing it over and over. I love the obscure talent figures. I think it keeps the older collectors engaged in the line but I can't see flashbacks being another line. The current guys for the most part are not very good (like Tutus) and don't in my book warrant a spot over even some of the legends. 1 - 2 FBs a series isn't killing anybody. Roman and Ambrose are in every other series which I get for profit reasons but there are a lot of guys that might sell as well in those spots. NXT is getting a line and the cruiserweights are getting spots so I think we will see more current talent. I also believe we need a MACHO MAN elite in every series so what do I know?
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Jun 2, 2017 19:58:53 GMT -5
Im fine with 2 flashback and 4 regular superstars a series. I collect both, but i would like the idea of a flashback only series
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 20:35:03 GMT -5
Until I have an NWA Harley Race and a Stan Hansen in hand, yeah I will be annoyed. But that ain't Mattel's fault or problem.
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Post by legendsguy on Jun 2, 2017 20:42:40 GMT -5
not a good idea.. your thread is exactly how i feel about the current roster taking up 4-5 spots of lineup..
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Post by VinMan on Jun 3, 2017 0:11:07 GMT -5
Unless they were to go back to having their own series like the Legends line which I doubt will happen, the mix of old and new is best. If they did away with Flashbacks you would have even more Cena and Reigns in every series. Plus I'd be more likely to just give up as opposed to now being more selective with who I buy due to cost and too many of any given character especially at $20 a pop.
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Post by One Punch Reigns on Jun 3, 2017 7:43:39 GMT -5
I am mainly a flashback collector (Though I have a decent chunk of NXT/modern talent) and I always get excited when people who I never thought would get a figure (D-Lo Brown, Shamrock, Nasty Boys, etc.) finally get one, especially gimmick characters where Mattel can let their hair down some and go all out. Figures like the SDCC Shockmaster and Warlord come to mind here and I even marked out when Tugboat was announced.
Plus I see something similar with lines like Marvel Legends where they know that characters who are well known (Capt. America, Spiderman, Iron Man, etc.) always sell so they have money to make lesser known characters to appeal to the hardcore market who enjoy seeing C-list heroes/villains on the shelves, even if some tend to warm pegs. Characters which may be obscure today might have been huge deals some years/decades ago.
The current formula for Mattel (2 or so FB out a wave plus store exclusives) I think works because it gives everyone a little of what they want.
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Post by megapowerspt on Jun 5, 2017 11:21:14 GMT -5
When I first started collecting, I was upset that the Legends line failed, because that's all I intended to collect, nothing past like the year 2000. Well that changed quickly and I get all the way up to certain current roster people now. I do think releases like the latest Berzerker and Warlord are kinda a waste, but for the 5 people that wanted them, cheers. Releases like that, of guys that make you scratch your head, are few and far between though. Having 2/4 or 3/3 ratio for Flashbacks/Current stars works fine, will there ever be a series where I buy every figure? Probably not. So only 5 people bought Warlord and Berzerker?
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Post by master of the WORLD! on Jun 5, 2017 11:34:59 GMT -5
Its one of those things where there are going to be people who are disappointed either way. some people would want more and some none. there is no right or wrong though
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Post by PJ on Jun 5, 2017 14:33:00 GMT -5
Not every flashback figure is going to fly off the pegs -- as is the case with certain figures in any wave. Some of the Flashback decisions they've made were not good (Tito Santana, Tugboat, Magnum TA). But if there were no flashbacks, I wouldn't collect the line at all. I'm shocked how many guys on the current roster get re-released. Seems like lately, Reigns, Cena and the Rock are in every other wave. I don't desperately want any of those guys -- and even if I did, I wouldn't continuously pay $21 for different versions. I get it that they have to sell the marquee guys but I think they overdo it. Other than one Magnum that had a q/c issue (He had a unibrow) he hasn't sat around here. And while there are a couple of Tugboat figures sitting between two TRU, three Targets and two WalMarts there are at least 12+ Big E's between those same stores. Just because something isn't selling in your area doesn't mean it isn't in other areas. Magnum was usually the first to go around here.
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Post by Mongo Bears on Jun 5, 2017 22:57:36 GMT -5
It's blows my mind that we have a magnum ta figure and not a superstar Billy Graham figure
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Post by Medieval on Jun 5, 2017 23:21:38 GMT -5
It's blows my mind that we have a magnum ta figure and not a superstar Billy Graham figure What happened with him? Didn't Bill say he couldn't decide if he wanted to use a younger or older head for Graham? I think he said that anyway. Was last year I believe. Edit...My memory could be off but I think he said that to one of the forum members at RSF last year.
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Post by Halloween King on Jun 6, 2017 3:32:45 GMT -5
I know that there are number of members on this board that enjoy flashbacks in every elite series and I respect that. But I think it has got to the point now where it is taking too much room in every series. I might be in the minority but I feel like the regular elite line should cater to the current roster and sprinkle in flashbacks 1 to 2 in every other series. Also, if you're going to make a flashback it should be of important memorable superstars. It's weird that Mattel would waste part of their budget on the Nasty Boys, Warlord, or Berzerker, but current guys like Titus O'Neal and Cruiserweights can't get an elite in the line... Open for discussion guys. Your screen name is HBKOWNS meaning you like HBK. It would be safe to say you would enjoy HBK merchandise, including HBK figures. So it is funny that you knock flashbacks or dislike them, being that the case is that for you to get a figure of your fav wrestler you'd have to hope for a Flashback figure. That said I very much so enjoy flashback figures. WWE is an incredibly fickle company. One day you're the company's top guy and the next they act like you dont exist. Bruno, Hulk, and others have all been shunned at one point or another. So you have to take the flashback figure when ever they're available. Besides as it is now with flashbacks we get the same guys in every other wave. WWE, for some reason, does not like making figures of their roster. Save for a few of the top guys who've been there for a while.
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Post by hbkowns on Jun 6, 2017 10:19:33 GMT -5
I know that there are number of members on this board that enjoy flashbacks in every elite series and I respect that. But I think it has got to the point now where it is taking too much room in every series. I might be in the minority but I feel like the regular elite line should cater to the current roster and sprinkle in flashbacks 1 to 2 in every other series. Also, if you're going to make a flashback it should be of important memorable superstars. It's weird that Mattel would waste part of their budget on the Nasty Boys, Warlord, or Berzerker, but current guys like Titus O'Neal and Cruiserweights can't get an elite in the line... Open for discussion guys. Your screen name is HBKOWNS meaning you like HBK. It would be safe to say you would enjoy HBK merchandise, including HBK figures. So it is funny that you knock flashbacks or dislike them, being that the case is that for you to get a figure of your fav wrestler you'd have to hope for a Flashback figure. That said I very much so enjoy flashback figures. WWE is an incredibly fickle company. One day you're the company's top guy and the next they act like you dont exist. Bruno, Hulk, and others have all been shunned at one point or another. So you have to take the flashback figure when ever they're available. Besides as it is now with flashbacks we get the same guys in every other wave. WWE, for some reason, does not like making figures of their roster. Save for a few of the top guys who've been there for a while. I started watching HBK in the 2000's, not in the late 80's or 90's. He is one of my favorite wrestlers and I enjoy his figures, but does that mean I enjoy all flashbacks in general? Absolutely not. I stated earlier I don't hate all flashbacks, and that I don't think they should be removed at all, just stop making ones of guys who don't sell and that rot the shelves.
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Post by PJ on Jun 6, 2017 10:52:42 GMT -5
Your screen name is HBKOWNS meaning you like HBK. It would be safe to say you would enjoy HBK merchandise, including HBK figures. So it is funny that you knock flashbacks or dislike them, being that the case is that for you to get a figure of your fav wrestler you'd have to hope for a Flashback figure. That said I very much so enjoy flashback figures. WWE is an incredibly fickle company. One day you're the company's top guy and the next they act like you dont exist. Bruno, Hulk, and others have all been shunned at one point or another. So you have to take the flashback figure when ever they're available. Besides as it is now with flashbacks we get the same guys in every other wave. WWE, for some reason, does not like making figures of their roster. Save for a few of the top guys who've been there for a while. I started watching HBK in the 2000's, not in the late 80's or 90's. He is one of my favorite wrestlers and I enjoy his figures, but does that mean I enjoy all flashbacks in general? Absolutely not. I stated earlier I don't hate all flashbacks, and that I don't think they should be removed at all, just stop making ones of guys who don't sell and that rot the shelves. Should they stop making Ambrose, Big E, Crews and Sami (tnf) who are all rotting around here? Ambrose is at every local TRU, Targets and Walgreens. (And at TRU and 2 Targets it is multiples of both his Elite and his new BP) Big E is at every TRU, Target Walgreens and WalMart. Crews both his Elite and Basic have multiples at TRU, Target and WalMart. And Sami has 4+ at each WalMart (as well as multiple Shield sets at both WalMart.) So by your logic they should stop making those guys also. Again just because something doesn't sell well in your area doesn't mean it isn't selling well someplace else. And vise versa.
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